Liquidshokk Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 one last quick reminder what we're getting....; Now it's looking quite likely we'll sign him I've allowed myself to check him out....Wow :Oo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 not really what we're getting though is it... we didn't really really 'get' the Youtube version of Ramirez, but alas his twin brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Anyone know why he chose number 67? MLG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 (edited) Anyone know why he chose number 67? MLG? It is to represent the year of the Lisbon Lions and Celtic's 1967 European Cup win. "After reading the club's history, I have chosen 67 as my squad number to show appreciation to the 1967 squad." So maybe he'll want to swap the numbers around to 76 with Saints! Edited 10 July, 2013 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 "The Chairman looks to have won his battle with the agents" That's the most important aspect of this drawn out signing to me. Hopefully it paves the way for other chairmen to follow suit. We don't really know what has happened in that regard at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Anyone know why he chose number 67? MLG? He wanted 69 but he owes the kit man twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Can't wait to see him in action. If you'd asked me for a realistic, but a bit of a 'dream signing' at the start of the window... ...Wanyama would've been the one. Or up there, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 It is to represent the year of the Lisbon Lions and Celtic's 1967 European Cup win. "After reading the club's history, I have chosen 67 as my squad number to show appreciation to the 1967 squad." So maybe he'll want to swap the numbers around to 76 with Saints! Thank you. Your knowledge blows me away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 We don't really know what has happened in that regard at all? Correct. Just reading between the lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Scottish exports that done good? Duncan Ferguson, Ally McCoist, Andy Gray, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 We don't really know what has happened in that regard at all? Pretty safe to assume the agent has backed down after no other clubs came in for him. By not moving the agent get's feck all. So something will always be better then nothing. Looking at our agent fees in the past (lowest in the league) it would indicate a trend of not playing ball with agents. So again think it is pretty safe to assume the agent backed down here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 one last quick reminder what we're getting....; Not bad! For a "defensive midfielder" he seems to spend quite a lot of time in the opposition's half (going by that video) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Not bad! For a "defensive midfielder" he seems to spend quite a lot of time in the opposition's half (going by that video) In terms of domestic football, Celtic had little need for him to be particularly defensive in a one team league last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Jeez! This means the Daily Mail were actually on the ball with this one then? Looking forward to seeing this completed tomorrow, hopefully, and then moving on to the next target... I wonder who that will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Jeez! This means the Daily Mail were actually on the ball with this one then? Looking forward to seeing this completed tomorrow' date=' hopefully, and then moving on to the next target... I wonder who that will be?[/quote'] Throw enough sh*t on the wall... Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Jeez! This means the Daily Mail were actually on the ball with this one then? Looking forward to seeing this completed tomorrow' date=' hopefully, and then moving on to the next target... I wonder who that will be?[/quote'] As they have been with a number of things on us in the last couple of years. Isn't Banega meant to be in talks? Either way, keep checking the daily Fail (PMSL) for updates and I'm sure all will be revealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 one last quick reminder what we're getting....; Looks good in the YouTube footage but then again Steve De Ridder's best bits on YouTube made several on here say that he'd be a great replacement for Chamberlain.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Pretty safe to assume the agent has backed down after no other clubs came in for him. By not moving the agent get's feck all. So something will always be better then nothing. Looking at our agent fees in the past (lowest in the league) it would indicate a trend of not playing ball with agents. So again think it is pretty safe to assume the agent backed down here. Not really relevant with 2 months of the transfer window and loads of movement still to come, the agents wouldn't completely throw their hand in now, no reason for them to. Most likely some movement on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Not bad! For a "defensive midfielder" he seems to spend quite a lot of time in the opposition's half (going by that video) He's a Yaya Toure type, surges up the pitch with amazing strength. I think that's one of the only qualities we could really add to our central midfield, so I'm glad he's signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Thank you. Your knowledge blows me away. You do know that MLG is the AI that controls google? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 You do know that MLG is the AI that controls google? So he knows where to find the best free porn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 You do know that MLG is the AI that controls google? You do know when he was trolling the celtic forum with his insanities they pulled him up on the fact he didn't know why he wore the 67 shirt and that's why he knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 You do know when he was trolling the celtic forum with his insanities they pulled him up on the fact he didn't know why he wore the 67 shirt and that's why he knows? Ask him any question on the jonas brothers tours too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Not really relevant with 2 months of the transfer window and loads of movement still to come, the agents wouldn't completely throw their hand in now, no reason for them to. Most likely some movement on both sides. Like I said we have a history of being strict on agent fees. Is there any evidence to show we back down from peoples demands I.e transfer wise? I don't think that has ever happened. Far more likely the agent backed down. Maybe Lennon's criticism had an effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Like I said we have a history of being strict on agent fees. Is there any evidence to show we back down from peoples demands I.e transfer wise? I don't think that has ever happened. Far more likely the agent backed down. Maybe Lennon's criticism had an effect? Is there any evidence his agent backed down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 It doesn't match the Championship, look at the size of the 11 biggest clubs in the Championship, all of them would be the 2nd biggest in the current SPL. Even beyond the top 11 in the Championship there would be other Championship sides that would also match up, plus Wolves, Bristol City, Bradford, Sheff Utd in League One and even, dare I say it... Pompey in League 2. You're officially mental for including them at any point in the past 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 It is to represent the year of the Lisbon Lions and Celtic's 1967 European Cup win. "After reading the club's history, I have chosen 67 as my squad number to show appreciation to the 1967 squad." So maybe he'll want to swap the numbers around to 76 with Saints! Maybe he will, but unless we can find 75 legitimate squad players to give numbers to he won't be able to have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 colin cramb Paul sheerin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Is there any evidence his agent backed down? Not yet no. But that was not the point. He asked if maybe the club backed down. I simply pointed out we don't really have a history of that do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Like I said we have a history of being strict on agent fees. Is there any evidence to show we back down from peoples demands I.e transfer wise? I don't think that has ever happened. Far more likely the agent backed down. Maybe Lennon's criticism had an effect? We have no idea if we've ever "backed down" or not. I'm sure we've had to show some flexibility here to get this big deal through, as we may have done on other deals in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Hmmm, this will go down well... I've already bitten. What a bald fat ginger carthorse! http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/5007492/Victor-Wanyama-move-is-a-step-down.html another **** pundit due on motd. What a waste of licence payers fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Anyone who uses the term "the boy" deserves contempt and the ****ing idiot still holds the perception of us when he played, no ****ing way we will be battling for relegation and I bet if we get 2 more world class players he will suddenly change his tune when everyone else does and say top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 (edited) Is there any evidence his agent backed down? No. My (and i assume St Marco's) thoughts aren't evidence based. It's simply a hunch that he has backed down. Could be right, could be wrong. Who knows. Edited 11 July, 2013 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Pretty safe to assume the agent has backed down after no other clubs came in for him. By not moving the agent get's feck all. So something will always be better then nothing. Looking at our agent fees in the past (lowest in the league) it would indicate a trend of not playing ball with agents. So again think it is pretty safe to assume the agent backed down here. Agents would only "back down" if no other offer for their player was on the table So far, it looks like it's only us who wants him But, the "achilles heel" to playing hardball is the fact that UNTIL the player signs on the dotted line, the agent can still be trying to sell his player elsewhere. So, until Wanyama actually SIGNS, he is not our player Deals have been scuppered at the last minute before in footbal ....... by AGENTSl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 It is to represent the year of the Lisbon Lions and Celtic's 1967 European Cup win. "After reading the club's history, I have chosen 67 as my squad number to show appreciation to the 1967 squad." So maybe he'll want to swap the numbers around to 76 with Saints! I'd rather give him 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Hmmm, this will go down well... I've already bitten. What a bald fat ginger carthorse! http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/5007492/Victor-Wanyama-move-is-a-step-down.html another **** pundit due on motd. What a waste of licence payers fees. Celtic are a bigger club than us. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either MLG or an idiot. The league they play in though is crap and the TV money is not there. That is why we are able to pay more. The league and the money is the real reason we are able to sign their players. Let's not kid ourself that VW or any of these world class player grew up dreaming of playing for saints. If we build something now, maybe in the future it will be true but at the moment we are just a medium sized provincial club with a rich backer. This isn't slating us, just the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Hmmm, this will go down well... I've already bitten. What a bald fat ginger carthorse! http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/5007492/Victor-Wanyama-move-is-a-step-down.html another **** pundit due on motd. What a waste of licence payers fees. Or, he's right. Saints is a step down from Celtic. It's the League and the money he's coming for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Celtic are a bigger club than us. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either MLG or an idiot. The league they play in though is crap and the TV money is not there. That is why we are able to pay more. The league and the money is the real reason we are able to sign their players. Let's not kid ourself that VW or any of these world class player grew up dreaming of playing for saints. If we build something now, maybe in the future it will be true but at the moment we are just a medium sized provincial club with a rich backer. This isn't slating us, just the truth. Bloody hell, a reasoned and well balanced argument! Totally agree, but I do find myself getting agitated when other clubs bad mouth us regardless. I agree we are what we are, but we all know we are going places. Don't mind people telling truth, but bad mouthing us for no reason, nah, thats when we fight back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 (edited) Hartson is right when he says that Saints are a step down in terms of the "size" of the club but he doesn't seem to be able to deduce or rationalise why one of the "big" clubs didn't come in for him. Maybe, John, that's because they don't think he's as good as you do and that a smaller club like Southampton is actually a better match for developing his talents at this moment in time. Just a hunch... Edit: ...and if Wanyama is as good as Hartson says he is then surely he'll help turn Southampton from a "bottom 6" side into a team competing in the top half. You can't have it both ways John me ok' mucka.... Edited 11 July, 2013 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Hartson is right when he says that Saints are a step down in terms of the "size" of the club but he doesn't seem to be able to deduce or rationalise why one of the "big" clubs didn't come in for him. Maybe, John, that's because they don't think he's as good as you do and that a smaller club like Southampton is actually a better match for developing his talents at this moment in time. Just a hunch... Agree again! If we get three good years out of him and become solid top half side, I will be happy for him to move to 'top 4' side for double the money! Until then, I look forward to seeing him take us forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Hmmm, this will go down well... I've already bitten. What a bald fat ginger carthorse! http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/5007492/Victor-Wanyama-move-is-a-step-down.html another **** pundit due on motd. What a waste of licence payers fees. Just shows 1. How clueless a lot of people in football are about Saints (we have some excellent players) and 2. That we have signed a good player! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Hmmm, this will go down well... I've already bitten. What a bald fat ginger carthorse! http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/5007492/Victor-Wanyama-move-is-a-step-down.html another **** pundit due on motd. What a waste of licence payers fees. This is the same John Hartson who left Celtic for then Championship team West Brom. Pot, meet kettle. How he's become a pundit I don't know. At least Wanyama is joining a 'bottom 6' Premier League club rather than a then top 6 Championship club. Bellend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Hmmm, this will go down well... I've already bitten. What a bald fat ginger carthorse! http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/5007492/Victor-Wanyama-move-is-a-step-down.html another **** pundit due on motd. What a waste of licence payers fees. Is this the same John Hartson who left Celtic for that European titan West Brom, a club so big they signed him after they finished 19th in the Premier League and got relegated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 This is the same John Hartson who left Celtic for then Championship team West Brom. Pot, meet kettle. How he's become a pundit I don't know. At least Wanyama is joining a 'bottom 6' Premier League club rather than a then top 6 Championship club. Bellend. Hartson was 22 when he left Celtic, was he? Clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Hartson was 22 when he left Celtic, was he? Clueless. He was 31 meaning he'd spent the pinnacle of his career banging in goals in a poor division. Even Hooper has already very nearly equalled his goals tally in less games at the age of 25 and now he's looking to leave to further his career in England. Scotland is a decent stepping stone. At least Wanyama is looking to further his career early rather than waste another 2/3 seasons. Anyway, I do apologise, whilst at the age of 22, Hartson was playing for the mighty West Ham who finished 8th in the Premier League, where Leeds, Blackburn and Villa all finished above them. His career hardly went up after leaving West Ham did it? Victor will leave us to a higher team, I'm sure of it judging by Celtic fans comments and videos I've seen. Hartson went downhill with Celtic being the only highlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 I dont understand all this Celtic is a "big" club - history maybe - but if your a player you would i think like to test yourself, the celtic players have no real test each week its a bit like the current Man U team playing in our League 2 - Ole Victor is going to commence battle each week with a real test of his skills every Saturday in the EPL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 I dont understand all this Celtic is a "big" club - history maybe - but if your a player you would i think like to test yourself, the celtic players have no real test each week its a bit like the current Man U team playing in our League 2 - Ole Victor is going to commence battle each week with a real test of his skills every Saturday in the EPL They are a big club, no doubt about it. A big club in a poor league with a poor tv deal but still a big club. [video=youtube;Q_Vs-SsqatM] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Well you could say the same about PFC then if it is based upon fans and support - for me just dont see it ,they are the biggest club in one of the smallest leagues and the Barca game is a one off in comparrision to who they trot out and play week in and week out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Who was the last 'big' player to come down from the SPL and really excel either in the Premier League or abroad? I'm not saying there hasn't been many (I don't think there has to be fair), just can't really remember Stiliyan Petrov, £6.5m signing from Celtic; 180 games for Villa, club captain, fans favourite and very much missed last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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