Gambol2K9 Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Banega looks RIDICULOUS in that video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 bah i sooo wanted ever banega just look at the class of the guy After seeing that, I want him too! Signing Wanyama doesn't mean we wouldn't move on from Banega though - from what I gather Wanyama is a defensive midfielder and judging from that video and from what I've read, Banega would be better suited to the role that Davis ended up playing in at the tail end of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 After seeing that, I want him too! Signing Wanyama doesn't mean we wouldn't move on from Banega though - from what I gather Wanyama is a defensive midfielder and judging from that video and from what I've read, Banega would be better suited to the role that Davis ended up playing in at the tail end of last season. Yeah i was reading a old man utd forum thread on banega the other day there fans were drooling over him too,he was being compared with modric but was said to be much more solid in the tackle and have a much better final ball, they also said he totally dictated the way valencia played. I watched him against barcelona last year and remember him looking **** hot in that too. Wanyama could be an absolute rock as a dm but i think we were pretty solid with cork and morgan anyway, that said i am happy if we sign him i just think banega could have give us something extra creatively. Hope we still go for him but if not gaston could very well step up if we play him in the hole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 So it's starting to look like a done deal. Celtic message boards must be in meltdown right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 So it's starting to look like a done deal. Celtic message boards must be in meltdown right now. Doubt it mate, MLG has been on there for 3 weeks convincing them all we are a huge club and top 6 in the EPL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 It's the Jonas Brothers community that are going to find this news the hardest to take I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 So, assuming this does all go through, can someone tell me what is going to happen in midfield? I know f*ck all about football, remember. * Thread links fine Something like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Something like this? I like it. I like it a lot. My only concerns are Forren and Lallana (who needs to lose the captains armband and concentrate on his game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Something like this? It'd be Cork sat in front of the back 4, not Wanyama. Overall would lack creativity for me in most games, take Cork out and put Ramirez behind Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Alps / Sour...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 I'm not convinced that Forren is 'in favour' with Pochettino (reading between the lines in last week's press conference). Unless we sign another CB I think our default pairing will be Yoshida and Lovren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Alps / Sour...? I'd start with Rickie on the bench, push JRod up top and Adam in attacking midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 I'm not convinced that Forren is 'in favour' with Pochettino (reading between the lines in last week's press conference). Unless we sign another CB I think our default pairing will be Yoshida and Lovren. Lescott is possibly leaving City, would be a good addition and first choice centre back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 I'd like to see us do what Man city do when Toure and Barry sit in front of the back 4, Tevez (will be someone else now)and Aguero up front with Nasri and Silva having almost free roles in between them. Almost a 4-2-2-2. Ramirez and Lallana aren't naturally wide players but if they had licence to roam then they'd have Wanyama and Schniderlinn behind them -----------Boruc Clyne Yoshida lovern Shaw -----Schindelin---Wanyama ------Ramirez------ Lallana ------Rodriguez------Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Alps / Sour...? Nope. Dont think Gashton is good enough or what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Nope. Dont think Gashton is good enough or what we need. Rediculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Rediculous Why is holding a different point of view "ridiculous"? I disagree with Alpine but its still a valid opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Nope. Dont think Gashton is good enough or what we need. Alright alps? I ain't sure bout ramirez either, he is skills player but i ain't sure he fits in with our style of play or whatever. I don't reckon we'd of signed him if ponch was manager last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 I reckon Ramirez will be an impact sub, and if he dont like it he can cry off to Fiorentina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 I reckon Ramirez will be an impact sub, and if he dont like it he can cry off to Fiorentina. Was thinking the same; impact sub bit. He is a luxury player and one that can certainly unlock defences. Technically probably our best player, but hasn't shown the right work ethos so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Ramirez will be our BEST player next season...... Just needed one whole season to settle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 I'd like to see us do what Man city do when Toure and Barry sit in front of the back 4, Tevez (will be someone else now)and Aguero up front with Nasri and Silva having almost free roles in between them. Almost a 4-2-2-2. Ramirez and Lallana aren't naturally wide players but if they had licence to roam then they'd have Wanyama and Schniderlinn behind them -----------Boruc Clyne Yoshida lovern Shaw -----Schindelin---Wanyama ------Ramirez------ Lallana ------Rodriguez------Lambert Fluid formations and free roles are ok going forward, but less so defensively. Who gives width to cover the full backs and track the opposing full back? On paper that line up presumably leaves it to Lallana and Gaston which means that in reality they're starting wide and to a large extent expected to stay wide. That doesn't suit Gaston at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Why is holding a different point of view "ridiculous"? I disagree with Alpine but its still a valid opinion. Because he is good enough and is what we need ? It irks me that people do not give overseas players enough time, should every player signed from abroad not be given a little bit of time to adjust we would not have seen the like of Henry, Ronaldo, Drogba, bergkamp etc Besides, what I have seen from Gaston is that he is easily good enough, he seems to have the ability to make stuff happen unlike anyone else on the team. He needs more pace and intelligence infront of him however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/413675/Southampton-set-to-land-12m-Celtic-star-Victor-Wanyama?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-scotland+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+Scotland+Feed%29 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/victor-wanyama-smashes-transfer-record-2041644 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/413675/Southampton-set-to-land-12m-Celtic-star-Victor-Wanyama?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-scotland+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+Scotland+Feed%29 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/victor-wanyama-smashes-transfer-record-2041644 Beat me to it. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2359061/Southampton-complete-record-12-5m-deal-Celtics-Victor-Wanyama.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkshiresaint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 I can't really see where all the anti Gaston stuff is coming from. I work with a lot of Arsenal & Manure fans & pretty much all of them have said that gaston is an awesome player who will only get better the longer he plays in England. He needs to be played in the correct position, I:E Attacking midfielder. Do some of our fans look at him and think about his price tag before his skills? if he cost us £1.000.000 would we think more of him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 (edited) Because he is good enough and is what we need ? It irks me that people do not give overseas players enough time, should every player signed from abroad not be given a little bit of time to adjust we would not have seen the like of Henry, Ronaldo, Drogba, bergkamp etc Besides, what I have seen from Gaston is that he is easily good enough, he seems to have the ability to make stuff happen unlike anyone else on the team. He needs more pace and intelligence infront of him however Agree with all that. I just don't feel the need to "ridicule" someone else's opinion just because its the opposite of mine (Pompey fans excepted of course!) Anyway, we digress... Edited 10 July, 2013 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Why is holding a different point of view "ridiculous"? I disagree with Alpine but its still a valid opinion. Any opinion is valid. The issue is .. how much sense does it make? My opinion is that to write off Ramirez at this point is lunacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Is the Scottish transfer record really "only" £11m? Is £12.5m really stunning? Have I just lost touch with football/reality to think its really not that much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Is the Scottish transfer record really "only" £11m? Is £12.5m really stunning? Have I just lost touch with football/reality to think its really not that much? It doesn't get you that much these days but no surprise clubs haven't spent much from the scottish league because the standard is so dreadful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Doubt we will change from 4-2-3-1 Wanyama either replacing Cork, or alongside Cork with Schneiderlin moving up the pitch to Davis' role Sent from my Lumia 800 using Board Express Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Doubt we will change from 4-2-3-1 Wanyama either replacing Cork, or alongside Cork with Schneiderlin moving up the pitch to Davis' role Sent from my Lumia 800 using Board Express This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 (edited) Any opinion is valid. The issue is .. how much sense does it make? My opinion is that to write off Ramirez at this point is lunacy. I'm in the 'Gaston will come good' opinion camp, but that doesn't rule out the possibility that he'll have a 'below expectations' season. I don't think holding the opinion that he might not turn out as good as we all hope he does is "lunacy". I think Alpine is more likely to be proved wrong than right. If Alpine starts forecasting snowfall in Southampton today then I might be moved to label him a crackpot Edited 10 July, 2013 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 I think we will sign other players tbh and think gaston is better than j rod and Lallana. Boruc Clyne lovren forren shaw Morgan wanyama cork Lallana/j rod/new player, puncheon Ramirez Lambert Subs: Gazzinga, new lb?, j rod/ Lallana, s Davis, puncheon, Fonte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Because he is good enough and is what we need ? It irks me that people do not give overseas players enough time, should every player signed from abroad not be given a little bit of time to adjust we would not have seen the like of Henry, Ronaldo, Drogba, bergkamp etc Besides, what I have seen from Gaston is that he is easily good enough, he seems to have the ability to make stuff happen unlike anyone else on the team. He needs more pace and intelligence infront of him however AKA Everybody Else's Fault. Such a misunderstood genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Here's hoping Gaston no longer being our record signing will take some pressure off him. Sent from my Lumia 800 using Board Express Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 AKA Everybody Else's Fault. Such a misunderstood genius And football such a misunderstood game..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Tbh. A striker and cover at right back are probably what we need and the striker needs a bit of pace as that's one thing we lack. Who will be the cover at right back and left back if we didn't sign anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Any opinion is valid. The issue is .. how much sense does it make? My opinion is that to write off Ramirez at this point is lunacy. Indeed. Alex Ferguson at the end of last season said young and foreign players need more than 1 season to get to grips with the PL. I think he knows what he's talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Any opinion is valid. The issue is .. how much sense does it make? My opinion is that to write off Ramirez at this point is lunacy.[/ ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkshiresaint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Boruc Clyne Lovren Yoshi Shaw Morgan Wanyama J Rod Gaston New player New player subs Gassiniga, new LB/RB, Forren, SRL, Lallana, Corky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Doubt we will change from 4-2-3-1 Wanyama either replacing Cork, or alongside Cork with Schneiderlin moving up the pitch to Davis' role Sent from my Lumia 800 using Board Express Yep, I've suggested before, Schneiderlin leading the high press from further up the pitch could work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 I think we will sign other players tbh and think gaston is better than j rod and Lallana. Boruc Clyne lovren forren shaw Morgan wanyama cork Lallana/j rod/new player, puncheon Ramirez Lambert Subs: Gazzinga, new lb?, j rod/ Lallana, s Davis, puncheon, Fonte. Playing a 4 3 4 1 formation might be considered cheating. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmusicdude Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 AKA Everybody Else's Fault. Such a misunderstood genius Are you refering to you or Gaston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Pretty sure Ramirez will be heavily involved in our plans for next season (rightly so). If he wasn't going to be then we would have looked to sell him, and we haven't done so. People always forget its a squad game, injuries, loss of form etc come about and it would be good to be able to rest players occassionally. All of Cork, Wanyama and Schneiderlin will start a lot of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Lescott is possibly leaving City, would be a good addition and first choice centre back Doesn't want to move his family south and still wants BIG money unless City cut him a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Boruc Clyne Lovren Yoshi Shaw Morgan Wanyama J Rod Gaston New player New player subs Gassiniga, new LB/RB, Forren, SRL, Lallana, Corky Midfield looks very powerful and if we were to get Banega it would be up there with the best in the prem. However we badly need pace up front and Gazzaniga on the bench does not give me any confidence if Boruc gets injured. Top priority must now be a pacy striker to open up our attacking play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 We have a very decent first XI, but we need a bit more depth in there. This was our problem last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Haven't seen very much of Wanyama, but there are plenty of postive posts on here and positive notes elsewhere, which is very pleasing. Hope he settles in well and makes a good impact on the pitch. IMHO Gaston is more likely to have a more settled season. I am looking forward to him being a key part of this season. The only way i think he would go is if he was used as a makeweight for a (potentially) better attacking midfielder like this Banega chap. But Gaston has the ability to have a serious impact this season and I hope he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Therefore the opinion that an opinion is ridiculous is also a valid opinion! Ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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