Victor Wanyama - Officially Signed

[Lallana's Left Peg]

People on here I understand are going to be a little bit biased about our club but such one eyed skewed vision is stupid, Everton, Liverpool and Spurs are all far far bigger than us so to secure the players us and them want we will have to pay more, thats the reality of it, why would a player choose us over them?

 

Why?

 

First team football is the biggest driver and likely only reason assuming all other things would be equal.

[Barry Sanchez]

First team football is the biggest driver and likely only reason assuming all other things would be equal.

 

Is first team football really the issue?Players still represent their Nation without being 1st choice for their club, Wayne Bridge obviously didn't give ****s and there are many others.

[Olallana]

yep Everton are always skint, have been for about 50 years now, never stopped them buying who they want when they want before. Just helps keep the fees down perhaps although I doubt if other clubs fall for their "we're skint" attitude these days. Nigh on 52 million £ in PL receipts, 36K+ home gates, big fee for letting Moyes go to Manure,yep, they've not 2 halfpennies to rub together.

 

They seem to have money when they need it, that´s for sure.

But did they get any fee for Moyes, I thought his contract was up this summer?

 

One thing though, didn´t Everton have one of the highest percentage in what their wages cost compared to total incomes when it was shown a few months ago?

My point, don´t they have to sell someone that has big wages too before they take Wanyama in, not just for the sake of the fee...

[angelman]

LAst figures I can see were for 2010/11, where Everton had a turnover of £82m and wages of £58m

[angelman]

A bit more up-to-date http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/03/everton-wage-bill-turnover-accounts

[Olallana]

A bit more up-to-date http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/03/everton-wage-bill-turnover-accounts

 

Cheers!

[thorpie the sinner]

Apparently EFC have called VW so wheels could be set in motion quite quickly!! I am off to the Banega thread lol!!

[Ed Rooney]

Apparently EFC have called VW so wheels could be set in motion quite quickly!! I am off to the Banega thread lol!!

 

if they haven't had a bid accepted, could contacting the player not get them in a bit of trouble

[St Chalet]

yep Everton are always skint, have been for about 50 years now, never stopped them buying who they want when they want before. Just helps keep the fees down perhaps although I doubt if other clubs fall for their "we're skint" attitude these days. Nigh on 52 million £ in PL receipts, 36K+ home gates, big fee for letting Moyes go to Manure,yep, they've not 2 halfpennies to rub together.

 

Fairly sure he was a free agent.

 

HTH

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

All gone very quiet on this one today. Nicky working his magic or dying a slow death, I wonder? Be interesting if he turns out for Celtic tomorrow night.

[DuncanRG]

All that would mean is he hasn't signed for anybody else and won't be for another 24 hours.

 

Don't think we need daily updates on this.

[itchen_dan]

Charles Paterson (scottish sky sports reporter - does some of the transfer updates also) has been doing a live transfer chat special on the Sky Sports website.

 

He was asked about Wanyama leaving Celtic and confirmed that Wayama's agent is back in talks with us so i reckon we could see some serious movement on this before the week is out. I think Poch will want another one in before the trip to Spain next week,

 

[buctootim]

Sounds like we could end up with Lovren, Wanyama and maybe one other. Extra cutting edge up front is the real priority now imo. I think I'd rather have Hooper than Damiao. Im not saying Hooper is better, but he is cheaper and much less of a risk imo.

Edited 9 July, 2013 by buctootim

[Glasgow_Saint]

Sounds like we could end up with Lovren, Wanyama and maybe one other. Extra cutting edge up front is the real priority now imo. I think I'd rather have Hooper than Damiao. Im not saying Hooper is better, but he is cheaper and much less of a risk imo.

 

 

 

[buctootim]

 

 

 

Stuff that. We should never have stopped playing on the common imo.

[Ed Rooney]

Our recent success has been based around players that want to be here, I am sure that if VW wanted to play for us he would have signed by now. Not sure this guy will be here for the right reasons

[Crab Lungs]

Alex Crook hasn't confirmed anything, so I'd say Charles Paterson is off the scent, big time.

[Window Cleaner]

Alex Crook hasn't confirmed anything, so I'd say Charles Paterson is off the scent, big time.

 

like either of them knows anything that isn't in the public domain. Leaks come from agents or selling clubs to put pressure onto prospective buyers. Information hacks just help them do that. When Wanyama's agent wants something to be known it will be all over the place.

[St Marco]

Our recent success has been based around players that want to be here, I am sure that if VW wanted to play for us he would have signed by now. Not sure this guy will be here for the right reasons

 

To be fair he himself has not indicated he doesn't want to play here. It looks as though it is the agent fee (based on rumours) that is the problem.

If it is true he wants £1m+ then he sounds like an agent that could cause problems in the future. For that reason alone I kind of hope we walk from this deal.

[Crab Lungs]

like either of them knows anything that isn't in the public domain. Leaks come from agents or selling clubs to put pressure onto prospective buyers. Information hacks just help them do that. When Wanyama's agent wants something to be known it will be all over the place.

 

I was taking the p1ss.

[SuperSAINT]

Charles Paterson has got the the easiest job ever.

 

People ask you questions, and you just answer with what's on the Sky Sports website.

[Ed Rooney]

To be fair he himself has not indicated he doesn't want to play here. It looks as though it is the agent fee (based on rumours) that is the problem.

If it is true he wants £1m+ then he sounds like an agent that could cause problems in the future. For that reason alone I kind of hope we walk from this deal.

 

I agree, cant help thinking though if agent is the problem and he 100% wants to play for us, then surely he has the authority to say to the agent "I want to sign, make it happen and you cant screw this up for me you greedy ****" or similar words

[doggface]

Well they have a game tonight and they were planning on giving him a run out if still at the training camp.

 

even if he is still there, if anything is imminent I would expect him not to play. Once the team is announced I am sure we will learn more.

[iansums]

Charles Paterson has got the the easiest job ever.

 

People ask you questions, and you just answer with what's on the Sky Sports website.

 

Yeah, too easy, he needs MLG to be asking the questions, then we'll see what he's made of.

[saintbob40]

VW and his agent need Saints to appear to be on the go to get the best deal from Everton. Stalking horse and nothing more. Cardiff were wise to it....

[Olallana]

Jack Cork turned us down at first.....should we hunt him out of our club??

 

Players might not see us as the best and first option but if they come here I can guarantee they will put in 100% efforts.

MP and NC wont tolerate less and players are professionals, they want to achieve things in their careers.

[buctootim]

players might not see us as the best and first option but if they come here i can guarantee they will put in 100% efforts.

Mp and nc wont tolerate less and players are professionals, they want to achieve things in their careers.

 

qpr

[Olallana]

qpr

 

They sign players on decline and in their case I think much is that players like the idea of living in London rather than anything about the club.

 

We sign younger players on the up...

[buctootim]

They sign players on decline and in their case I think much is that players like the idea of living in London rather than anything about the club.

 

We sign younger players on the up...

 

So you can't guarantee that as players are professionals they will give 100% then?

[Smirking_Saint]

VW and his agent need Saints to appear to be on the go to get the best deal from Everton. Stalking horse and nothing more. Cardiff were wise to it....

 

If saints are wise they will make VW a good offer and then put a time limit on it, whether or not Everton are keen I cant see movement until Fellaini moves on. Saying everton dont have money is short sighted, they are prudent however, only spending if they have to

[Smirking_Saint]

qpr

 

QPRs issues was caused by infighting more than anything, established players not happy with the so called 'world class' players coming in on a rediculous wedge who in reality were not that much better than what was originally there.

 

Under Warnock the rot started, Hughes the rot set in and TBH Redknapp just exacerbated it. By that time they were knackered, a lack of any real transfer committee hurt any real intent and until TF gets that under control they are screwed

[Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd]

Said it before and I'll say it again. I sense trouble with Wanyama. Surely he's not the only target?

[Olallana]

So you can't guarantee that as players are professionals they will give 100% then?

 

What is one managers 100% is another managers 90%.

[Window Cleaner]

starts for Celtic in their friendly this evening. Think Celtic will want to get this sorted soon, their CL campaign starts in a week or so, true it's only against those European Giants Cliftonville though.

[Black Sea Saint]

starts for Celtic in their friendly this evening. Think Celtic will want to get this sorted soon, their CL campaign starts in a week or so, true it's only against those European Giants Cliftonville though.

 

apparently now not playing, or even in the team

[DuncanRG]

starts for Celtic in their friendly this evening. Think Celtic will want to get this sorted soon, their CL campaign starts in a week or so, true it's only against those European Giants Cliftonville though.

 

Surely with European qualification looming they'll want to hold onto their best player for as long as possible?

[Window Cleaner]

apparently now not playing, or even in the team

 

yes I see they've corrected their team on their twitter feed. Probably didn't fancy it or asked for a salary spike or bonus to play. Pity,I was going to watch a bit of it to see if I couldn't reconsider my position on Wanyama and Scottish football in general. Back to PSG-Sturm Graz I suppose.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

Perhaps Lennon selected Wanyama only to receive the response "screw you, I'm off to get me some south coast sunshine...".

 

Some positive news maybe?

[Window Cleaner]

Surely with European qualification looming they'll want to hold onto their best player for as long as possible?

 

you'd think so but they won't want to use him in pre-season and then not be available for the CL. Changing their side not to include would tend to suggest that as well.

[Window Cleaner]

Perhaps Lennon selected Wanyama only to receive the response "screw you, I'm off to get me some south coast sunshine...".

 

Some positive news maybe?

 

 

Nah Moyes called him in his official role of Jock speaking consultant to Everton FC and told him to knock it off.

[thorpie the sinner]

so apparently Poch turns up at st marys with a man in back as yet unseen (source: a sincere looking lad on twitter), then Celtic take him off the team sheet after previously having him down as a starter, the plot thickens!!!!! What way is Everton from Germany??

[Window Cleaner]

so apparently Poch turns up at st marys with a man in back as yet unseen (source: a sincere looking lad on twitter), then Celtic take him off the team sheet after previously having him down as a starter, the plot thickens!!!!! What way is Everton from Germany??

 

from Hanover...due west , turn right at Land's End then sort of due north.

[thorpie the sinner]

from Hanover...due west , turn right at Land's End then sort of due north.

 

of course lol!!

[doggface]

very very odd. Something is going on. Sounds like a breakthrough... But for who. If we are only ones to agree fee suggests us IMO.

[Stepgar]

Getting really effing bored with these sagas! I miss football so much but these is he /isn't he threads move so fast can't believe we are on page 34! If he does sign though we will probably only get another two pages.

[Window Cleaner]

Getting really effing bored with these sagas! I miss football so much but these is he /isn't he threads move so fast can't believe we are on page 34! If he does sign though we will probably only get another two pages.

 

try watching PSG reserves getting tonked by Sturm Graz, that should cure it.

[itchen_dan]

@SimonPeach: #SaintsFC are into 1/2 from 13/8 to sign #Celtic's Victor Wanyama (via @Oddschanger). Breakthrough?

[bowers-sfc]

so apparently Poch turns up at st marys with a man in back as yet unseen (source: a sincere looking lad on twitter), then Celtic take him off the team sheet after previously having him down as a starter, the plot thickens!!!!! What way is Everton from Germany??

 

 

This would be me. He also had his daughter in the front I think? But defiantly a man in the back. I only saw him at the lights, and couldent get to the stadium quick enough to see them get out ( I'm not running anywhere.. See Sunderland relay race video)

[thorpie the sinner]

This would be me. He also had his daughter in the front I think? But defiantly a man in the back. I only saw him at the lights, and couldent get to the stadium quick enough to see them get out ( I'm not running anywhere.. See Sunderland relay race video)

 

lol, glad I was polite then!

[bowers-sfc]

so apparently Poch turns up at st marys with a man in back as yet unseen (source: a sincere looking lad on twitter), then Celtic take him off the team sheet after previously having him down as a starter, the plot thickens!!!!! What way is Everton from Germany??

 

 

This would be me. He also had his daughter in the front I think? But defiantly a man in the back. I only saw him at the lights, and couldent get to the stadium quick enough to see them get out ( I'm not running anywhere.. See Sunderland relay race video)