DuncanRG Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 Yeah, if we look further back than fair enough. But I can't think of a club below the very top level who only sign winners! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 (edited) I think it's just admitting that in the vast majority of cases the people who do this for a living will know better. Doesn't mean they'll be right all the time, but they have a better ratio than any of us would.If you take that route then there's no point in discussing it whatsoever. Just leave all that to the experts. Kind of defeats the idea of a forum though, where the whole point is to discuss issues, whether (ill) informed or not. Have we really been hit and miss? Forren, Ramirez, Gazza and Mayuka haven't 'hit' to date but I wouldn't chalk them down as 'misses' quite yet, especially considering none were signed as short-term fixes. All the rest have been resounding successes if you ask me.It's entirely subjective, but yes I'd say we have been hit and miss, albeit more hit than miss. Edited 7 July, 2013 by The Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 If you take that route then there's no point in discussing it whatsoever. Just leave all that to the experts. Kind of defeats the idea of a forum though, where the whole point is to discuss issues, whether (ill) informed or not. It's entirely subjective, but yes I'd say we have been hit and miss, albeit more hit than miss. Of course you can discuss this or anything else in a constructive manner. Just don't see the point in getting involved in discussions with "characters" who seem to get a buzz from winding people up Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 (edited) I see that Everton are now supposedly interested...if that's the case we might as well move on to our next target. Agent has done his job, conducted an auction. Edited 7 July, 2013 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 (edited) Why? There'll be competition for all good targets. Giving up easily doesn't seem like a good strategy. pretty obvious that the player doesn't really want to come here, wasn't he on record as saying he was "waiting for a top 4 club" Are Everton not in Europe ? that is a deal maker or breaker for many players, especially in a WC season, not that Wanyama will be concerned with that. Edited 7 July, 2013 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 The longer this thread goes on the more I keep thinking I have accidentally gone onto the muppet show ! Good observation skills. Here's +1 reputations points. Keep the point somewhere safe as Bearsy will try and nick it off you to sell down at cash converters. Tokyo will be along later to post some pictures of boobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 If you take that route then there's no point in discussing it whatsoever. Just leave all that to the experts. Kind of defeats the idea of a forum though, where the whole point is to discuss issues, whether (ill) informed or not. It's entirely subjective, but yes I'd say we have been hit and miss, albeit more hit than miss. Aren't all clubs hit and miss when it comes to signings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 Aren't all clubs hit and miss when it comes to signings?I don't understand what relevance that has to, well, anything about this thread really. Other than to prove the point that its a bit daft for a fan of any club, let alone ours, to choose to implicity trust the club over every signing they make simply because they're professionals and its their job. Which was what the comment was in response to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 I don't understand what relevance that has to, well, anything about this thread really. Other than to prove the point that its a bit daft for a fan of any club, let alone ours, to choose to implicity trust the club over every signing they make simply because they're professionals and its their job. Which was what the comment was in response to. Isn't the basic point, whose opinion on a player do you trust most? The people at the club who are professionals and charged with spending big money or some anonymous bloke on an internet forum. Whatever you answer is it doesn't stop debate. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 Looking at Neil Lennon's comments, I wonder whether we'll here some positive news before Tuesday before Celtic next play again? Hopefully the Everton link is just a red herring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 The guy on SSN said the deal is back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 The guy on SSN said the deal is back on. See my post from few days back..... You're about a week behind as deal was most definitly dead = agents + Cardiff + other 3rd party interference!! However as i posted 3-4 days back the deal is back ON!! SFC reignited their interest last Tuesday and fresh contract talks are looking positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 Nixon still adamant Wanyama wants to move to Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 From our favourite tweeters @andrew_halford: @reluctantnicko Evening Alan, any Southampton news ? @reluctantnicko: @andrew_halford Waiting and watching Wanyama ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 EDIT: Double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 No one seems to have picked up on the news that his agent has flown into the UK. Make of that what you will. Was apparently part of the SSN transfer piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 Mr Nixon adamant he doesn't want to join us! lets see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 Mr Nixon adamant he doesn't want to join us! lets see There is no chance on this earth that we'd be stupid enough to pursue this deal this far, speak publicly about him etc without asking the guy if he wants to join us or not. Under previous management / chairmen, yes, but under Cortese and the committee, no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 There is no chance on this earth that we'd be stupid enough to pursue this deal this far, speak publicly about him etc without asking the guy if he wants to join us or not. Under previous management / chairmen, yes, but under Cortese and the committee, no chance. Agreed, think it will be tied up within next couple of days, possibly by tomorrow evening. News of agent flying over certainly bodes well. Andrew Halford ay? I should really stop following the guy but it's amusing to watch how someone can be so consistently wrong about everything Saints-related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 Agreed, think it will be tied up within next couple of days, possibly by tomorrow evening. News of agent flying over certainly bodes well. Andrew Halford ay? I should really stop following the guy but it's amusing to watch how someone can be so consistently wrong about everything Saints-related. I don't follow him, in fact he's blocked, but I saw it on Nixons timeline so had to have a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 Wanyama will sign. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 Wanyama will sign. That is all. ITK or hunch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 ITK or hunch? He's ITK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 Saint Armstrong very clever comments re Wanyama . You will be correct he could sign for anyone even a contract extension with Celtic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 Wanyama will sign. That is all. I hope thats not all. I think he may play football as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 Wanyama will sign. That is all. Yeah but for whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 So will it be Wanyama-Schneiderlin, Cork-Schneiderlin, or Waynama-Cork? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 So will it be Wanyama-Schneiderlin, Cork-Schneiderlin, or Waynama-Cork? or Wanyama-Feillani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 or wanyama-feillani itk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 or wanyama-feillani or just hunch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 guts lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 or Wanyama-Feillani So Everton are in for him then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 So we are told, personally I think we should make a move for the big hair man instead alongside Wanyama!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 The longer this thread goes on the more I keep thinking I have accidentally gone onto the muppet show ! It is a flamingMuppet Show - and the gutless moderators are encouraging that with allowing theusual dozen or so kiddies in the playground to bully the rest! Careful what youwish for – for sure you will get it! Ever wonderedwhy me and a lot more decide not to join a egoistic and pathetic forum designedto keep a few simpletons amused???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 Latest betting on skybet: Saints 5-4, Cardiff 7-4, Liverpool 5-2, Everton 6-1 Sounds like this one could run and run!! Come on NC lets put this one to bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 Latest betting on skybet: Saints 5-4, Cardiff 7-4, Liverpool 5-2, Everton 6-1 Sounds like this one could run and run!! Come on NC lets put this one to bed So those are the odds for UEFA Cup Place? Relegation? Just wondering lilke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 So those are the odds for UEFA Cup Place? Relegation? Just wondering lilke None of them, odds for which forum will have imploded first before end of transfer window!! We should be 1-33!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 So those are the odds for UEFA Cup Place? Relegation? Just wondering lilke None of them, odds for which forum will have imploded first before end of transfer window!! We should be 1-33!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 Wanyama's arrival is not so imminent it would seem....... Posted 10 minutes ago https://twitter.com/celticfc/status/354190446978813952/photo/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 Waiting for Evertons bid to be finalised! Could be a while if they have to sell first! Still think we have been too open here, convinced our main targets are under wraps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 Waiting for Evertons bid to be finalised! Could be a while if they have to sell first! Still think we have been too open here, convinced our main targets are under wraps! This is where saints web come into its own. Do you really think that transfer deals are done in the press Lets be honest. Hardly any... If at all have any idea on how this process works Deciding what is what by what you read/hear in the media is just silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 This is where saints web come into its own. Do you really think that transfer deals are done in the press Lets be honest. Hardly any... If at all have any idea on how this process works Deciding what is what by what you read/hear in the media is just silly The press is there to promote the gossip which we all find entertaining. It helps the summer go quicker! I take anything with a pinch of salt until it is announced as definite but I do take store from trusted sources more than others! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 Kone to Everton complete. That also means they have £5m less than before to put towards any Wanyama deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 Kone to Everton complete. That also means they have £5m less than before to put towards any Wanyama deal. They got the same TV money as everyone else and may well be selling Fellaini or Baines anyway. Wouldnt read anything into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 They got the same TV money as everyone else and may well be selling Fellaini or Baines anyway. Wouldnt read anything into this. They're usually pleading poverty every transfer window anyway and Martinez seems to only want to sign Wigan players. Loan deal for Joel (Wigan goalkeeper at end of last season) also on the cards apparently. Plus, I can't see Fellaini going. Only Baines. And would he be that stupid to spend £12m on a CM when they'd need a left back? I really can't see Everton getting Wanyama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 They're usually pleading poverty every transfer window anyway and Martinez seems to only want to sign Wigan players. Loan deal for Joel (Wigan goalkeeper at end of last season) also on the cards apparently. Plus, I can't see Fellaini going. Only Baines. And would he be that stupid to spend £12m on a CM when they'd need a left back? I really can't see Everton getting Wanyama. Always thought Everton saw Fellaini as a DMC eventually anyway. (Maybe that's changed now Moyes has left) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 Fellani can only leave if a bid of £23 Million or more is accepted, Baines will only go to a North West club as he is close to his family, City or United are the probable options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 Now Saints 13-8, Everton 7-4 from 6's and Cardiff 15-8! Someone has popped in with a tenner!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 They're usually pleading poverty every transfer window anyway and Martinez seems to only want to sign Wigan players. Loan deal for Joel (Wigan goalkeeper at end of last season) also on the cards apparently. Plus, I can't see Fellaini going. Only Baines. And would he be that stupid to spend £12m on a CM when they'd need a left back? I really can't see Everton getting Wanyama. yep Everton are always skint, have been for about 50 years now, never stopped them buying who they want when they want before. Just helps keep the fees down perhaps although I doubt if other clubs fall for their "we're skint" attitude these days. Nigh on 52 million £ in PL receipts, 36K+ home gates, big fee for letting Moyes go to Manure,yep, they've not 2 halfpennies to rub together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 People on here I understand are going to be a little bit biased about our club but such one eyed skewed vision is stupid, Everton, Liverpool and Spurs are all far far bigger than us so to secure the players us and them want we will have to pay more, thats the reality of it, why would a player choose us over them? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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