Victor Wanyama - Officially Signed

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

So, now we not even speaking to the player because we knew ages ago what he wanted to join us? Then why did we suddenly agree a figure with Celtic??? Each passing revelation leaves us even further away from this being completed, according to the media. Apart from the hint Crab Lungs gave us, there's not been much on this from our usual ITK-ers too. Wouldn't bet against the arrival of a leftfield alternative arrival.

[Webby]

I already have.

 

Newsflash: I can reveal that I have not been involved in any email discussions with Ivan.

 

See, it's easy.

[Mr Saints]

So, he might sign. Or he might not. Nobody knows yet.

 

Goodnight all.

[Saint_lambden]

This one's gonna draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag.

[Wes Tender]

Celtic reject £10m Wanyama bid from Premier League new boys Cardiff

 

Cardiff have been denied permission to speak to Celtic midfielder Victor Wanyama after placing a £10million bid for the Kenyan.

 

Celtic have accepted £12m from Southampton but the South Coast club have not agreed terms with Wanyama.

 

Despite talk of the player holding further negotiations with Southampton, Wanyama's representative Ivan Modia said: 'It is completely untrue that we are holding talks with Southampton.

 

'They were made aware some weeks ago what the player was looking for. At that time they were not prepared to meet that so, as far as we are concerned, discussions with Southampton ended some weeks ago.

 

'The player is in Kenya and has no immediate plans for a quick return. The player will not be railroaded into a move that is not right for him.'

 

 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2347671/Celtic-reject-10m-Victor-Wanyama-bid-Premier-League-new-boys-Cardiff.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

 

Frankly, I'm beginning to hope that he doesn't get any other offers anywhere and has to stay at Celtic. It will serve him right.

 

pressingon:

Maybe they should make the players pay their agents from their own signing on fee.

Good idea. Or the player should be told that he can have a bigger signing on fee which includes an element of agent's fees, out of which he can assess how much he thinks his agent deserves.

[Saint Charlie]

So if we know what the player wants we would hardly have continued to talk to Celtic and agree a fee if we had no intention of paying him well.

 

Its just ones of these transfer sagas. Right now I reckon it won't happen but if it does then great. Wanyama clearly waiting for a more illustrious team to bid.

[Delmary]

Ivan The Terrible

 

http://www.everton.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=317294

[Kingsland Red]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23037626

 

Do we believe the BBC ?

[trousers]

Celtic reject £10m Wanyama bid from Premier League new boys Cardiff

 

Cardiff have been denied permission to speak to Celtic midfielder Victor Wanyama after placing a £10million bid for the Kenyan.

 

Celtic have accepted £12m from Southampton but the South Coast club have not agreed terms with Wanyama.

 

Despite talk of the player holding further negotiations with Southampton, Wanyama's representative Ivan Modia said: 'It is completely untrue that we are holding talks with Southampton.

 

'They were made aware some weeks ago what the player was looking for. At that time they were not prepared to meet that so, as far as we are concerned, discussions with Southampton ended some weeks ago.

 

'The player is in Kenya and has no immediate plans for a quick return. The player will not be railroaded into a move that is not right for him.'

 

 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2347671/Celtic-reject-10m-Victor-Wanyama-bid-Premier-League-new-boys-Cardiff.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

 

So, the BBC Scotland article published a few hours ago saying talks were back on was a load of baloney...?

[DuncanRG]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23037626

 

Do we believe the BBC ?

 

Probably.

 

Best to sit back and not get too invested.

[Turkish]

Lots of nonsense from different sources.

[Avenue Saint]

Yes there is. ramirez is for starters, this came From Ramirez.

 

I don't care what he's supposed to have said. I know for fact, no one is on more than 50k.

[Turkish]

I don't care what he's supposed to have said. I know for fact, no one is on more than 50k.

 

So you're saying Ramirez lied then?

[trousers]

So you're saying Ramirez lied then?

 

The original Italian article inserted the amounts in brackets within the interview text, rather than including it as direct dialogue, which could suggest that it was inserted after the interview which, in turn, could suggest the figure wasn't a direct quote from Ramirez but instead something the interviewer heard from another source.

[Viking Warrior]

I looked at the video on him. Some good aspects to his play but I thought his close ball play was a little suspect . He's quick but he should have better close ball control . Ps are we still in for that hearts player we have been chasing . What's his school satchel or something similar . Anyway crabs PM wil be good news if if it comes off .

[Turkish]

The original Italian article inserted the amounts in brackets within the interview text, rather than including it as direct dialogue, which could suggest that it was inserted after the interview which, in turn, could suggest the figure wasn't a direct quote from Ramirez but instead something the interviewer heard from another source.

 

So they plucked the figure out of the sky.

[Sour Mash]

So, the BBC Scotland article published a few hours ago saying talks were back on was a load of baloney...?

Regardless of what the current status quo is, I can't see his claim of "talks ending weeks ago" being true, that really wouldn't make sense and therefore throws a bit of doubt on the rest of his statement. Also, Wanyama can't stay on holiday in Kenya indefinitely, he'll have to start making some decisions and thinking about pre-season prep reasonably soon.

[trousers]

So they plucked the figure out of the sky.

 

I've no idea. Just suggesting that the way the original article was written leaves an element of doubt that the figures were a direct quote from Ramirez. Why put the figures in brackets rather than directly quote them if Ramirez stated them as part of the interview? That said, could just be me reading too much into the punctuation.

[trousers]

Regardless of what the current status quo is, I can't see his claim of "talks ending weeks ago" being true, that really wouldn't make sense and therefore throws a bit of doubt on the rest of his statement. Also, Wanyama can't stay on holiday in Kenya indefinitely, he'll have to start making some decisions and thinking about pre-season prep reasonably soon.

Indeed. Especially as Celtic's first competitive game of the new season is only three weeks away.

[buctootim]

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[Deanovski]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4982354/Greedy-agents-are-demanding-1million-to-let-their-player-join-Southampton.html

[ThreeSixty]

African footballer with dodgy agent shocker.

[skintsaint]

Might go for a career change and become a football agent.

 

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[ericofarabia]

Hasn't anybody got a mate in GCHQ that they can ask to check all the player's / agent's / club's e-mails/ phone calls etc.?

[CB Fry]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4982354/Greedy-agents-are-demanding-1million-to-let-their-player-join-Southampton.html

 

Once you've got the bug of using press briefings tactically in order to get your own way, it's a difficult habit to drop. Isn't it Nicola?

 

And to think of the energy he wasted on that match photographer thing way back when. How things change.

[Alain Perrin]

That's over then.

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[Suomi Saint]

It seems that the player and his agent(s) are getting squeezed - one side by Saints and the other by Celtic. Otherwise, Celtic would have given Cardiff permission to speak to Wanyama. However, the current situation could also be very simple - it reflects that Saints are no longer interested and that Celtic are holding out for 12M from Cardiff or another club. To be honest, we should move on. If Wanyama and his mates are trying to get 1M+ for doing very little then that is just an insult to Saints, the fans, and the football industry in general. And there is no guarantee that this guy would actually be a success. Jog on mate.

[Pilchards]

Once you've got the bug of using press briefings tactically in order to get your own way, it's a difficult habit to drop. Isn't it Nicola?

 

And to think of the energy he wasted on that match photographer thing way back when. How things change.

 

Good for him, rather him running our club than wimps like you that hide behind monitors insulting people.

Coward!!!

[Crab Lungs]

You have to wonder how much Celtic will "give" in this transfer in terms of the money to see it go through...

[trousers]

You have to wonder how much Celtic will "give" in this transfer in terms of the money to see it go through...

 

Are you saying what I think you're saying...?

[Katalinic]

You have to wonder how much Celtic will "give" in this transfer in terms of the money to see it go through...

 

Probably about erm let's say £1million?

[thorpie the sinner]

Are you saying what I think you're saying...?

 

I think he maybe YES!!

[JoeShmoe]

You'd hope no other clubs would cave in for that sort of agent fee, aside from the top 4 and he ain't going there

 

No doubt Celtic see this as a good deal as well and are equally annoyed

 

The ball seems to be in the agents court now as whatever hopes they had of last minute interest appear to have not happened

[trousers]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4982354/Greedy-agents-are-demanding-1million-to-let-their-player-join-Southampton.html

 

One of the agents is called Rob Moore.... How apt...

[Bucks Saint]

Might go for a career change and become a football agent.

 

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My mate has! FIFA registration and exam pass sorted! Career change commenced! Website and business cards all done!

 

Currently has one league 2 reserve player on his books.

[Badger]

Once you've got the bug of using press briefings tactically in order to get your own way, it's a difficult habit to drop. Isn't it Nicola?

 

And to think of the energy he wasted on that match photographer thing way back when. How things change.

 

There are a number of areas in which I'm not a particular fan of NC , but in this aspect I think he is spot on in refusing to cough up a £1m to fund a couple of leeches for doing bugger all.

 

Especially when we are already paying well over the odds for a player.

[BILLY]

Hope there is some movement soon as my life seems on hold at the moment waiting for any news. I know I should "get a life etc" but the summer seems to going on for ever and ever and he sooner the season starts again the better.

[trousers]

Might go for a career change and become a football agent.

 

Was thinking the same. Wouldn't even need to change career... Could keep it ticking over quite nicely in the background given it appears there's sod all effort you need to put into it.

[trousers]

My mate has! FIFA registration and exam pass sorted! Career change commenced! Website and business cards all done!

 

Currently has one league 2 reserve player on his books.

 

Pompey...?

[Panda]

Pompey...?

 

Don't be silly! Pompey have hardly enough for a first team let alone reserves ...

[Glasgow_Saint]

Hope there is some movement soon as my life seems on hold at the moment waiting for any news. I know I should "get a life etc" but the summer seems to going on for ever and ever and he sooner the season starts again the better.

 

Still early yet mate..... Look at Arsenal, Cardiff, Chelsea, Crystal P, Everton, Newcastle, Stoke, Spurs, WBA.

 

All of these clubs are still to secure a transfer this summmer

[CB Saint]

Rob Moore looks like bob Crowe brother.

[Viking Warrior]

I don't want Wanyama . I get the feeling he and his agents would be very disruptive to the club and the team . So good riddance . Too many players are in it for the money and not the team. I only want him if he is dedicated to the team and not full of self importance

[Batman]

I don't want Wanyama . I get the feeling he and his agents would be very disruptive to the club and the team . So good riddance . Too many players are in it for the money and not the team. I only want him if he is dedicated to the team and not full of self importance

 

All players we will be signing will generally do so for the money

[ericofarabia]

All players we will be signing will generally do so for the money

 

Tsk. You are over looking the importance of The Watch.

Schoolboy error.

[Professor]

I don't want Wanyama . I get the feeling he and his agents would be very disruptive to the club and the team . So good riddance . Too many players are in it for the money and not the team. I only want him if he is dedicated to the team and not full of self importance

 

Absolutely. Even if the excessive demands are bluff and Cortese calls it, this player and his cronies are all about money and less about football. NWOB.

[Professor]

All players we will be signing will generally do so for the money

Footballers are not the exception, we all work for money, but people perform better if they enjoy their work and share in the objectives of their employer. If money is the only driver, the employer is better off without the employee. We only have the press reports to go on, but there is nothing in those that would make me choose to take on this young man who appears to be advised by people who have more interest in enriching themselves and less in furthering his career. Can see him failing wherever he goes.

[saintbob40]

sounds like a tosser surrounded by other tossers. A lot of money for a player from the dog and duck league. Lets move on.....we can do better.

[SOTONS EAST SIDE]

Greedy club, greedy player and very greedy agents. Ferk em And move on!

[tajjuk]

I think that people should remember that the guy is only 21, I imagine the agents have secured his moves to Europe from Kenya as a young kid (he was only 17 I think) so you've got a young guy playing football in fairly obscure and poor country and these guys get him to fame and fortune. It's no surprise really he's listening to them and maybe feels he has a bit of loyalty to them.

 

Plus doesn't this agent only really have one other major client? Pienaar, who is 31 now and is unlikely to get another big move so basically the agent's career probably depends on Wanyama.

 

If Celtic are happy with our deal I wonder if they could divert some of the transfer funds to the agent as a compromise, maybe make up the £500k difference, they would still be making £1.5 million more then what Cardiff are offering.