trousers Posted 18 June, 2013 Posted 18 June, 2013 (edited) Southampton FC @SouthamptonFC Mauricio Pochettino has spoken to Saints Player about his preparations for the 2013/14 #BPL season. Watch: http://sfcne.ws/12GV2fc #saintsfc In English.... Edited 18 June, 2013 by trousers
thorpie the sinner Posted 18 June, 2013 Posted 18 June, 2013 Cant get Saints player, a quick summary would be much appreciated!
trousers Posted 18 June, 2013 Author Posted 18 June, 2013 No revelations in there. Just seems to be a 2 minute showcase for his English language skills - Happy to have signed Lovren so early on in the window - Everyone is very busy working in the background - no holidays - Looking forward to the fixture list coming out That's about the size of it
Matthew Le God Posted 18 June, 2013 Posted 18 June, 2013 Speaking in English now.... His second English interview. This was the first... The press can't use this as a stick to beat him with anymore.
Colinjb Posted 18 June, 2013 Posted 18 June, 2013 His second English interview. This was the first... He has improved since then....
thorpie the sinner Posted 18 June, 2013 Posted 18 June, 2013 No revelations in there. Just seems to be a 2 minute showcase for his English language skills Worth it just for that reason I suppose lol! Did he express sadness that his interpreter is now out of work??
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 June, 2013 Posted 18 June, 2013 The press can't use this as a stick to beat him with anymore. did they ever?
Matthew Le God Posted 18 June, 2013 Posted 18 June, 2013 did they ever? Yes, both broadcast and written press.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 June, 2013 Posted 18 June, 2013 Yes, both broadcast and written press. links?
Badger Posted 18 June, 2013 Posted 18 June, 2013 ****ing terrible English, time to get rid. Didn't hold Sir Alex back in his career.
pap Posted 18 June, 2013 Posted 18 June, 2013 Matey needs a few weeks on the Flower Road estate, mush. We'll have him talking proper. So many Spanish speakers do the "in this moment" lark to start with. Important is also an easy word to remember
Ohio Saint Posted 18 June, 2013 Posted 18 June, 2013 What's Richard Nixon doing in that photo? That was my first thought too!!
trousers Posted 18 June, 2013 Author Posted 18 June, 2013 links? Listen back to Radio 5Live broadcasts between February and May. It's all there.
CB Fry Posted 18 June, 2013 Posted 18 June, 2013 Yes, both broadcast and written press. Who and where and when. And you are making claims against the entire "broadcast" and "written" press so there must be literally hundreds you can find. Or, you're just lazily making stuff up.
Doctoroncall Posted 18 June, 2013 Posted 18 June, 2013 He has improved since then.... Well he's young and realising his potential. You know the rest!
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 June, 2013 Posted 18 June, 2013 Listen back to Radio 5Live broadcasts between February and May. It's all there. Just listened to every broadcast.........NOTHING!! Think MLG might have made this up? #MLGISCRAZY
Matthew Le God Posted 18 June, 2013 Posted 18 June, 2013 For a start... Paul Merson on Soccer Saturday and Martin Samuel of the Daily Mail.
The Kraken Posted 18 June, 2013 Posted 18 June, 2013 For a start... Paul Merson on Soccer Saturday and Martin Samuel of the Daily Mail. Click. Click. Click. Click. Nope, those links seem to be broken for me.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 June, 2013 Posted 18 June, 2013 For a start... Paul Merson on Soccer Saturday and Martin Samuel of the Daily Mail. Links or youtube videos please
Saint_clark Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 I'm not going to bother looking for links for the smug, patronising people asking for them - but I know for a fact I read articles and heard people on radio shows criticising his inability to speak English when he took over. As well as a lot of people on here saying it would massively hold us back. Quite funny that the MOTD season highlights included a quote from Pochettino though, saying "In football there is only one language...which is the language of football". I distinctly remember all 3 of the pundits on there laughing at the managerial change when it happened. I also specifically remember an article from a journalist/columnist or some such saying that he hoped Southampton went down for their treatment of Adkins (treatment which, by the way, simply amounted to firing him).
Appy Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 For a start... Paul Merson on Soccer Saturday and Martin Samuel of the Daily Mail. Paul Merson, the guy who said Lambert wouldn't get more than 5 goals this year? Not a very good witness for the defence buddy.
Matthew Le God Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 (edited) His second English interview. The press can't use this as a stick to beat him with anymore. links? Paul Merson, the guy who said Lambert wouldn't get more than 5 goals this year? Not a very good witness for the defence buddy. I was merely answering the question who in the press have used Pochettino's levels of English as a stick to beat him with. Not if those members of the press have a clue what they say. Plus as Saints Clark pointed out, it has also come up on Match of the Day. I'm not going to bother looking for links for the smug, patronising people asking for them - but I know for a fact I read articles and heard people on radio shows criticising his inability to speak English when he took over. As well as a lot of people on here saying it would massively hold us back. Quite funny that the MOTD season highlights included a quote from Pochettino though, saying "In football there is only one language...which is the language of football". I distinctly remember all 3 of the pundits on there laughing at the managerial change when it happened. I also specifically remember an article from a journalist/columnist or some such saying that he hoped Southampton went down for their treatment of Adkins (treatment which, by the way, simply amounted to firing him). Edited 19 June, 2013 by Matthew Le God
Turkish Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 Paul Merson, the guy who said Lambert wouldn't get more than 5 goals this year? Not a very good witness for the defence buddy. and Martin Samuel from the Daily Fail (PMSL) - a paper and bloke know for hating Saints. MLG is at it again.
Matthew Le God Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 and Martin Samuel from the Daily Fail (PMSL) - a paper and bloke know for hating Saints. MLG is at it again. What on earth are you talking about? ffs I was merely answering the question who in the press have used Pochettino's levels of English as a stick to beat him with. Not if those members of the press have a clue what they say.
jamesfp1 Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 Still cant see it on Saints Player, am I going mad?
Turkish Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 What on earth are you talking about? ffs I was merely answering the question who in the press have used Pochettino's levels of English as a stick to beat him with. Not if those members of the press have a clue what they say. "The press can't use this as a stick to beat him with anymore." Then laughably use Martin "anti Saints agenda" Samuel and Paul friggin Merson as your evidence. So "the press" consisted of a recovering junkie, alkie washed up ex footballer who can hardly say his own name and a fat **** with and anti Saints agenda. Bravo MLG, Bravo.
Matthew Le God Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 Still cant see it on Saints Player, am I going mad? It is showing for me. http://www.player.saintsfc.co.uk/latest-news/article/3213214/date/20130618145300/page/0/name/Manager-Delighted-By-Lovren-Capture
itchen_dan Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 Still cant see it on Saints Player, am I going mad? Definitely still there - "Manager delighted by Lovren Capture"
Matthew Le God Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 (edited) "The press can't use this as a stick to beat him with anymore." Then laughably use Martin "anti Saints agenda" Samuel and Paul friggin Merson as your evidence. So "the press" consisted of a recovering junkie, alkie washed up ex footballer who can hardly say his own name and a fat **** with and anti Saints agenda. Bravo MLG, Bravo. Why is that laughable? Both Samuel and Merson are part of the football press, I was answering the question who in the press used it as a stick to beat him with. By naming those two, that is answering the question. The question wasn't "do those members of the press have a clue?". As Saints Clark also pointed out, it came up of Match of the Day and other written publications. Bloody hell Turkish, talk about taking my words out of the context they were written! You are very much "Mr Wrong" this time, not me. I'm bored with you now. Edited 19 June, 2013 by Matthew Le God
Turkish Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 Why is that laughable? Both Samuel and Merson are part of the football press, I was answering the question who in the press used it as a stick to beat him with. By naming those two, that is answering the question. The question wasn't "do those members of the press have a clue?". As Saints Clark also pointed out, it came up of Match of the Day and other written publications. Bloody hell Turkish, talk about taking my words out of the context they were written! You are very much "Mr Wrong" this time, not me. I'm bored with you now. Byeee 'the press' a junkie alcholic who can hardly speak and a clown who writes a weekly article is a crap paper. 'THe press' who were using MP's lack of the lingo as a stick to beat him with. Yes that is what constitues, 'the press'
Glasgow_Saint Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 I know for a fact I read articles and heard people on radio shows criticising his inability to speak English sure you did I have seen a ghost and a mermaid
Toadhall Saint Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 sure you did I have seen a ghost and a mermaid Link.......
lotois-saint Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 What's Richard Nixon doing in that photo? Exactly my thought, too!
Matthew Le God Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 'the press' a junkie alcholic who can hardly speak and a clown who writes a weekly article is a crap paper. 'THe press' who were using MP's lack of the lingo as a stick to beat him with. Yes that is what constitues, 'the press' Are they in the press? Yes Did they use it as a stick to beat him with? Yes Did I say they were just a couple of many examples? Yes Did Saint Clark state some more examples from the press? Yes Did I say everyone in the press did it or that respectable members of the press did it? No Did I answer the question I was asked which was to name some examples? Yes
Appy Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 Are they in the press? Yes Did they use it as a stick to beat him with? Yes Did I say they were just a couple of many examples? Yes Did Saint Clark state some more examples from the press? Yes Did I say everyone in the press did it or that respectable members of the press did it? No Did I answer the question I was asked which was to name some examples? Yes To correct you, you said you were bored with Turkish and going. You can't resist a bite.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 Are they in the press? Yes Did they use it as a stick to beat him with? Yes Did I say they were just a couple of many examples? Yes Did Saint Clark state some more examples from the press? Yes Did I say everyone in the press did it or that respectable members of the press did it? No Did I answer the question I was asked which was to name some examples? Yes Did you provide any links or proof? NO
Turkish Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 Are they in the press? Yes Did they use it as a stick to beat him with? Yes Did I say they were just a couple of many examples? Yes Did Saint Clark state some more examples from the press? Yes Did I say everyone in the press did it or that respectable members of the press did it? No Did I answer the question I was asked which was to name some examples? Yes Did you incorrectly state it was 'the press' not 'two members of the press with little to no credibliy? Yes
buctootim Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 Pointless argument imo. Regardless of whether or not he was criticised on the press, a lack of ability to speak English well (not haltingly in simple sentences) is a big drawback in any organisation. That 'football is a universal language' argument is specious. IT is a universal language, as is burger flipping. You still need to speak to your staff, not only to convey ideas but also so they get to know and trust you as an individual . Obviously its possible to succeed without language initially, as long as you learn it fast. Having English speaking assistants also helps. But to argue not speaking the language well isnt a handicap is plain stupid.
Daren W Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 To be fair he was stitched up a bit by Sky when they covered his first home game in charge against Everton. They did make a seem to dwell on his lack of English as a reason Adkins' sacking was "crazy." I'd be hard pushed to offer up any concrete evidence that he was the victim of any agenda but they certainly didn't do him any favours...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 19 June, 2013 Posted 19 June, 2013 I think the press simply pointed out the fact that he couldnt speak English - I never witnessed or heard any criticism in this regard.
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