lordswoodsaints Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 Ha ha I just have for no apparent reason Anybody else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 They must have given you some indication as to why you have been declined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 18 June, 2013 Author Share Posted 18 June, 2013 None apart from I didn't score enough points,even though I've used finance for tickets since its been available. All I can guess is, a change of finance company = different credit score calculator I've had problems trying to renew online so decided to go down to the ticket office,now I've got 3 days to conjure up £750 All donations welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 Has anyone who renewed by Zebra received their season ticket yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 None apart from I didn't score enough points,even though I've used finance for tickets since its been available. All I can guess is, a change of finance company = different credit score calculator I've had problems trying to renew online so decided to go down to the ticket office,now I've got 3 days to conjure up £750 All donations welcome It is different, they are using zebra finance now, last season they it was DD, which they cocked up and didn't end up taking any payments out until September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 18 June, 2013 Author Share Posted 18 June, 2013 It is different, they are using zebra finance now, last season they it was DD, which they cocked up and didn't end up taking any payments out until September. Yes,I know it was kept 'in house' last season but I've had finance for season tickets when it was offered a few years back without problems so obviously something has changed.....I'm no longer deemed the right person by the looks of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 Ha ha I just have for no apparent reason Anybody else? Perhaps you don't pay your instalments on time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 Just pay up front and get it over with. I'd rather have one kick in the whatnots rather than one every month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 Just pay up front and get it over with. I'd rather have one kick in the whatnots rather than one every month. Some people can't afford to pay all at once you fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightysaints Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 Pay with a Credit card and do a balance transfer,0% interest rate. Tesco card is not charging a transfer fee either. Cut the card up so you can't use it and just pay the card monthly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 If we are using a new supplier to administer the payment plans, they will probably have their own risk model and criteria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 18 June, 2013 Author Share Posted 18 June, 2013 I'll sort something out,just curious if anybody else has had problems? Wish I'd applied for a renewal sooner though so I would of had a couple of weeks to sort an alternative rather than a couple of days but didn't expect to get knocked back tbh. **** happens I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 18 June, 2013 Author Share Posted 18 June, 2013 Perhaps you don't pay your instalments on time? No always paid on time no problems and had 4 tickets on finance for a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie61163 Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 no not yet...........i take it that they will not be sent out until the 1st payment has gone through which is the 24th June for me. Has anyone who renewed by Zebra received their season ticket yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 It's probably becuase you couldn't be bothered making any payments until Septmber last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 Ever had a payday loan? (Wonga, Quid Quid etc...) Some companies will refuse to lend to people who have used these organisations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 No always paid on time no problems and had 4 tickets on finance for a couple of years. It's not just paying for your previous season tickets on time that matters - this new company would've had no idea you would've done that. They would've just got a general credit score for you which takes into account all sorts of things like paying any direct debits on time, going overdrawn on your bank, being rejected for credit previously, the amount of debt you're currently in etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 Haven't you got a wealthy relative who can help out....preferably one who's fat and plays golf?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 18 June, 2013 Author Share Posted 18 June, 2013 Haven't you got a wealthy relative who can help out....preferably one who's fat and plays golf?! Ha ha he's fat and plays golf but the money part is a myth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 Ever had a payday loan? (Wonga, Quid Quid etc...) Some companies will refuse to lend to people who have used these organisations. not the first time i've heard this, sounds like ******** though. any source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 not the first time i've heard this, sounds like ******** though. any source? Some see it as evidence that finances aren't being managed. http://www.experian.co.uk/consumer/questions/askjames246.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 Some see it as evidence that finances aren't being managed. http://www.experian.co.uk/consumer/questions/askjames246.html interesting, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 Don't forget every time you get rejected it gets counted against your credit record, as does missing any payments, going into an overdraft etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 not the first time i've heard this, sounds like ******** though. any source? The mortgage adviser I met with two saturdays ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 They seem pretty loose around lending policies, they say in a their q & a section that they "may run credit checks". Maybe its your address or something trivial. They also say contact them if you want them to reconsider. I was looking up changing the did date and its all there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 I got rejected so got it in my mums name but coming out of my bank ! I had it last year and my credit score hasn't changed since they said different companies have different standards ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Crab Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 Like all credit checks, they take into account your address. Usually this means the individual address, but I think that credit check companies just save time searching by simply ruling out of all of Lordswood immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 I think the amount of credit checks that have been done is also a factor as the more checks the worse for your overall credit rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 Had no problem with mine and I'm a skint overdrawn student. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 I've never checked but my credit score must be awful, still got accepted though so can't be as bad as I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 Yes,I know it was kept 'in house' last season but I've had finance for season tickets when it was offered a few years back without problems so obviously something has changed.....I'm no longer deemed the right person by the looks of it. Change your username to "chilworthsaints", they'll snap your hand off. Sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 They only reject you if you're a complete liability so well done on being awful with money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey_saint Posted 19 June, 2013 Share Posted 19 June, 2013 Some people can't afford to pay all at once you fool. That's a bit harsh. It's called planning; he was just offering advice. I get paid bugger all but I know it comes around each year so when I've got my new ST I just save maybe a tenner or so a week. You'd save in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 19 June, 2013 Share Posted 19 June, 2013 The mortgage adviser I met with two saturdays ago. fair enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouchie's Lawyer Posted 19 June, 2013 Share Posted 19 June, 2013 Ever had a payday loan? (Wonga, Quid Quid etc...) Some companies will refuse to lend to people who have used these organisations. not the first time i've heard this, sounds like ******** though. any source? The mortgage adviser I met with two saturdays ago. I can confirm as a Mortgage Advisor that lenders (for mortgage purposes) certainly do not like clients who have used pay day loans. They have a pidgeon hole'd view that it shows a sign of financial despiration and poor financial management which doesnt bode well when you are trying to get a mortgage. I would assume it is the same for other forms of finance like personal loans, credit cards and anything else which may require a credit check. It could also be something you simply were not aware of. You can get a copy of your credit file from Credit Expert. Feel free to use our link http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-5438454-10366638 or just Google them. Check you have no defaults or county court judgements as that would affect your ability to get a number of forms of credit. Late and missed payments on credit cards and loans as well as going over overdraft limits also affect your score as well as a large number of recent credit checks. Credit Expert give you handy tips on how to improve your credit score too. If anyone needed any mortgage advise by the way, feel free to drop me an email: ben@powermortgages.co.uk we're based in Southampton so nice and local to most of you and always keen to help a fellow Saints fan! (I know, shameless plug...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Nick Posted 19 June, 2013 Share Posted 19 June, 2013 From a rugby forum, posted this evening News for anyone who has renewed via zebra, I rang the club regarding no news on zebra going through and was told their has been some sort of problems and anyone going through zebra has been extended to beginning of season as it could take some time to sort out so it could perhaps be a general problem at Zebra rather than with fans' credit records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted 20 June, 2013 Share Posted 20 June, 2013 I had the big middle finger from Zebra, wanged it into the missis name but kept my account details.... everyones a winner!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 21 June, 2013 Author Share Posted 21 June, 2013 It doesn't seem on here that there are too many that have been rejected but as this forum obviously doesn't represent a fair cross section of the fan base there could be loads of people rejected,I know 2 others that have been rejected that don't post on here. I contacted zebra but had a standard reply which I was expecting tbh,it seems they are so automated that there is no scope for common sense,liaising with the club to find out about previous payment history is too much to ask I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldbarbarian Posted 21 June, 2013 Share Posted 21 June, 2013 As with most companies these days they do a credit score check and if you dont meet criteria that is that, they dont have time/scope to go checking with the club to see if you are a good payer in the past. I also got rejected but applied in my Mrs name out of my bank account as a few on here seem to have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 21 June, 2013 Share Posted 21 June, 2013 It doesn't seem on here that there are too many that have been rejected but as this forum obviously doesn't represent a fair cross section of the fan base there could be loads of people rejected,I know 2 others that have been rejected that don't post on here. I contacted zebra but had a standard reply which I was expecting tbh,it seems they are so automated that there is no scope for common sense,liaising with the club to find out about previous payment history is too much to ask I suppose. Try putting the application through in a relative/friend's name but keep your bank account details (as advised above by a few). I renewed on 3rd June through Zebra, and ST renewal shows on my transaction history on SFC's ticket website but not received my pack through the post yet. Anybody else had theirs? Tried phoning the club but had no luck in getting through on the 0845 no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcowzer Posted 21 June, 2013 Share Posted 21 June, 2013 no not yet...........i take it that they will not be sent out until the 1st payment has gone through which is the 24th June for me. Has anybody got their Season Ticket yet. I certainly have not although the Club were'nt slow in deducting the money from my bank account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 21 June, 2013 Share Posted 21 June, 2013 I can confirm as a Mortgage Advisor that lenders (for mortgage purposes) certainly do not like clients who have used pay day loans. They have a pidgeon hole'd view that it shows a sign of financial despiration and poor financial management which doesnt bode well when you are trying to get a mortgage. I would assume it is the same for other forms of finance like personal loans, credit cards and anything else which may require a credit check. It could also be something you simply were not aware of. You can get a copy of your credit file from Credit Expert. Feel free to use our link http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-5438454-10366638 or just Google them. Check you have no defaults or county court judgements as that would affect your ability to get a number of forms of credit. Late and missed payments on credit cards and loans as well as going over overdraft limits also affect your score as well as a large number of recent credit checks. Credit Expert give you handy tips on how to improve your credit score too. If anyone needed any mortgage advise by the way, feel free to drop me an email: ben@powermortgages.co.uk we're based in Southampton so nice and local to most of you and always keen to help a fellow Saints fan! (I know, shameless plug...) hahaha, cheers the info. for the record i am not personally affected by these type of loans, but finding the debate surrounding them interesting. I think its quuite hyporcritical for mortgage lenders to use that sort of criteria when they are the very people forcing a lot of people down that route by witholding regular forms of finance, that would have been available to those people a few years ago. it's a disgrace imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 23 June, 2013 Share Posted 23 June, 2013 Has anybody got their Season Ticket yet. I certainly have not although the Club were'nt slow in deducting the money from my bank account. They are being sent out late last week and early next week I phoned the club and asked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 23 June, 2013 Share Posted 23 June, 2013 hI think its quuite hyporcritical for mortgage lenders to use that sort of criteria when they are the very people forcing a lot of people down that route by witholding regular forms of finance, that would have been available to those people a few years ago. it's a disgrace imo You can understand that a lot of people have got into difficulty in recent times by borrowing too much without realising the full repercussions of the commitment? It's a difficult balance to get right but it did need to get tighter. A friend of mine who didn't have the financial means to maintain his desired lifestyle accumulated 30k of debt.... all borrowed. He simply should not have been allowed to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 23 June, 2013 Share Posted 23 June, 2013 Thanks for the tip for free credit check, just done it but it states that if I don't cancel the free 30 day trial then it will be charged monthly. Can I just cancel by email (I couldn't see from a quick check) or something more formal. Very interesting report although it was nothing I didn't expect. I can confirm as a Mortgage Advisor that lenders (for mortgage purposes) certainly do not like clients who have used pay day loans. They have a pidgeon hole'd view that it shows a sign of financial despiration and poor financial management which doesnt bode well when you are trying to get a mortgage. I would assume it is the same for other forms of finance like personal loans, credit cards and anything else which may require a credit check. It could also be something you simply were not aware of. You can get a copy of your credit file from Credit Expert. Feel free to use our link http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-5438454-10366638 or just Google them. Check you have no defaults or county court judgements as that would affect your ability to get a number of forms of credit. Late and missed payments on credit cards and loans as well as going over overdraft limits also affect your score as well as a large number of recent credit checks. Credit Expert give you handy tips on how to improve your credit score too. If anyone needed any mortgage advise by the way, feel free to drop me an email: ben@powermortgages.co.uk we're based in Southampton so nice and local to most of you and always keen to help a fellow Saints fan! (I know, shameless plug...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 24 June, 2013 Share Posted 24 June, 2013 You can understand that a lot of people have got into difficulty in recent times by borrowing too much without realising the full repercussions of the commitment? It's a difficult balance to get right but it did need to get tighter. A friend of mine who didn't have the financial means to maintain his desired lifestyle accumulated 30k of debt.... all borrowed. He simply should not have been allowed to do that. Yeah of course absolutely I do understand that. Your friend is a prime example. But here's another example for you: Person A has £5k in unsecured debts, occurred through whatever personal circumstances that could happen to anyone, and not necessarily on purpose. Say £4k is made up of credit cards, and they have a £1k overdraft. They get 3 weeks through the month, need to buy food or have an unexpected bill. Run out of overdraft and credit cards are maxxed out. If the mainstream banks are refusing a loan to consolidate these debts what choice do you have, pay day loan or not eat? (assuming you can't borrow off family/friends). This is the situation a lot of people get in to. A personal loan is not the greatest solution but at least it would give people a chance to get back on their feet, often repaying significantly less a month back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 24 June, 2013 Share Posted 24 June, 2013 Yeah I've done this a few times. You have to phone them to cancel, the number is on their website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 24 June, 2013 Share Posted 24 June, 2013 Yeah of course absolutely I do understand that. Your friend is a prime example. But here's another example for you: Person A has £5k in unsecured debts, occurred through whatever personal circumstances that could happen to anyone, and not necessarily on purpose. Say £4k is made up of credit cards, and they have a £1k overdraft. They get 3 weeks through the month, need to buy food or have an unexpected bill. Run out of overdraft and credit cards are maxxed out. If the mainstream banks are refusing a loan to consolidate these debts what choice do you have, pay day loan or not eat? (assuming you can't borrow off family/friends). This is the situation a lot of people get in to. A personal loan is not the greatest solution but at least it would give people a chance to get back on their feet, often repaying significantly less a month back They should have tried not to get into that situation in the first place I would say and attempt to get savings behind them. It is difficult. The banks now have tightened up a lot more than they were (good thing). But payday loans IMO are the absolute worst thing you can do. The interest rates are phenominal and for most financial insititutions turning to these shows financial desperation. I have always be one that preaches from the, if you cant afford it dont get it camp. Everytime you apply for credit, whether you take it or not, it will affect your credit rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 24 June, 2013 Share Posted 24 June, 2013 I think everyone agrees that its better to earn the money before paying for things, but people can and do get into difficulty and its not always their fault. Its become harder and harder to save money due to tightening of wages and general lack of decently paid jobs. To be honest, the banks underwrite these loans and know exactly what they're doing, squeezing the most amount of money possible out of their customer base. It's all about balancing risk, which is how their business works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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