Turkish Posted 15 July, 2013 Posted 15 July, 2013 We have just had a fee agreed for a player we have been previously linked with playing in La Liga. Banega ?! Where did you see this Bessie? Plenty of rumours tonight is Banega and apparently in the South American press!!
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 July, 2013 Posted 15 July, 2013 Where did you see this Bessie? Plenty of rumours tonight is Banega and apparently in the South American press!! Not from rumours bessie
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 16 July, 2013 Posted 16 July, 2013 This is oddly quiet today Doesn't mean anything either way but Banega trained with Valencia in Germany today.
110_Persaint Posted 16 July, 2013 Posted 16 July, 2013 This is oddly quiet today Calm before the storm mate. We'll have this one all wrapped up sooner than you think.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 July, 2013 Author Posted 16 July, 2013 Calm before the storm mate. We'll have this one all wrapped up sooner than you think. Another ITK? Welcome to the club buddy
thorpie the sinner Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 Hoping we can seal this one sooner rather than later! quite like the fact there is eerie silence surrounding this one!
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 July, 2013 Author Posted 17 July, 2013 Tweet on https://twitter.com/alacanchaEPL NOTICIA BOMBA:Se ha producido un avance y nuevos contactos entre Southampton y Valencia por Ever Banega. #EPL#Fichajes Translation: News bomb: There has been a breakthrough and new contacts between Southampton and Valencia by Ever Banega. #EPL #Fichajes
notnowcato Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 Depends how reliable @alacanchaEPL is. 110% reliable... probably.
Ed Rooney Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 Wont believe it until I get a PM from Glasgow or Tokyo
buctootim Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 (edited) Cortese seems obsessed with midfielders. Its like previous years when we already had a good midfield but were still signing new players when goalkeeping, defence and attack were all deperately light. Edited 17 July, 2013 by buctootim
SuperSAINT Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 Cortese seems obsessed with midfielders. Its like previous years when we already had a good midfield but were still signing new players when goalkeeping, defence and attack were all deperately light. and were signing Not since the days of Burley have we had so many discussions about signing so many midfielders -- Only this time you can replace the likes of Licka & Sarmiento with Wanyama & Banega
Matthew Le God Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 Cortese seems obsessed with midfielders. Saints play a formation with 5 "midfielders" and 1 striker, so transfer activity is bound to be weighted towards midfielders.
buctootim Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 Saints play a formation with 5 "midfielders" and 1 striker, so transfer activity is bound to be weighted towards midfielders. Which is the tactical, slow build up possession football so popular in Italy especially, for 1-0 results. Not exactly the exciting attacking 'Southampton way' tm
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 July, 2013 Author Posted 17 July, 2013 Wont believe it until I get a PM from Glasgow or Tokyo I’m hanging up my ITK boots v.soon. Get to much hate from the resident SWF hate mob. Quitting while I’m at the top……. • Éver Banega • Leandro Damiao • Most popular SWF poster ever • Victor Wanyama • Kit release • Player release list • New bus • Over 200 forum friends • Season ticket prices • Boruc • Hand dryers • Almost 10,000 profile visits • Billy Sharp • Lovren
beavis17 Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 Cortese seems obsessed with midfielders. Its like previous years when we already had a good midfield but were still signing new players when goalkeeping, defence and attack were all deperately light. Probably to try and help us unlock some of the krap defences we didn't last season.
Ed Rooney Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 I’m hanging up my ITK boots v.soon. Get to much hate from the resident SWF hate mob. Quitting while I’m at the top……. • Éver Banega • Leandro Damiao • Most popular SWF poster ever • Victor Wanyama • Kit release • Player release list • New bus • Over 200 forum friends • Season ticket prices • Boruc • Hand dryers • Almost 10,000 profile visits • Billy Sharp • Lovren Dont hang up your PM boots to me Glasgow, rise above the hate
buctootim Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 Probably to try and help us unlock some of the krap defences we didn't last season. 4-5-1 is a defensive formation. That was the problem, not the solution.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 July, 2013 Author Posted 17 July, 2013 Dont hang up your PM boots to me Glasgow, rise above the hate
Baldbarbarian Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 I’m hanging up my ITK boots v.soon. Get to much hate from the resident SWF hate mob. Quitting while I’m at the top……. • Éver Banega • Leandro Damiao • Most popular SWF poster ever • Victor Wanyama • Kit release • Player release list • New bus • Over 200 forum friends • Season ticket prices • Boruc • Hand dryers • Almost 10,000 profile visits • Billy Sharp • Lovren If the Ever Banega one is true & happens then it would be fantastic, he is the one player I would love for us to sign. Hand Dryers???
Webby Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 4-5-1 is a defensive formation. That was the problem, not the solution. It doesn't have to be. Remember, Spain played with 7 midfielders in the euro 2012 final.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 July, 2013 Author Posted 17 July, 2013 Has he played since his ankle surgery? ankle surgery?
Saint_clark Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 ankle surgery? Finger on the pulse, as ever. He was in a car crash and had to have an operation on his ankle.
TheSpankBoy Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 It doesn't have to be. Remember, Spain played with 7 midfielders in the euro 2012 final. I agree. But that spanish side was 7 interchangable midgets. Very good ones, but I think they were a freak side. And not just because of midgetry.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 July, 2013 Author Posted 17 July, 2013 Finger on the pulse, as ever. He was in a car crash and had to have an operation on his ankle. Ouch! Poor chap
TheSpankBoy Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 Finger on the pulse, as ever. He was in a car crash and had to have an operation on his ankle. The one where he ran himself over?
Baldbarbarian Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 he ran himself over in 2012, he has played since
TheSpankBoy Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 (edited) It happened in Feb last year. They said out of action for 6 months, so he should of been fine by end of this season just gone. I guess anyway. Edited 17 July, 2013 by TheSpankBoy
buctootim Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 (edited) It doesn't have to be. Remember, Spain played with 7 midfielders in the euro 2012 final. True but they weren't playing with Wanyama (0.19 goals per game gpg), Schneiderlin (0.047 gpg), Cork (0.0 gpg) or even Banega (0.053 gpg) and Ramirez (0.2gpg). Thats roughly an average of 1 goal every 2 matches between all five of them. Should be a cracking goal fest huh? Edited 17 July, 2013 by buctootim
Olallana Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 Yes he had surgery.....in february 2012 29 games last season. http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/ver-banega/leistungsdaten-detail/spieler_12249.html
NickG Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 Cortese seems obsessed with midfielders. Its like previous years when we already had a good midfield but were still signing new players when goalkeeping, defence and attack were all deperately light. Midfield / CM would not have been my priorities but as he seems to do transfer windows better than any one else hopefully right plan
buctootim Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 (edited) Midfield / CM would not have been my priorities but as he seems to do transfer windows better than any one else hopefully right plan But he doesn't does he? Everyone knew last close season we needed 1 or two experienced goalies and 2 quality CBs. Instead we got Ramirez and Mayuka for £17m, a lg2 rookie for £2m and Forren as a £4m panic buy. We were lucky Boruc was a free agent after the horror show start wake up call, otherwise we'd have been stuffed. Edited 17 July, 2013 by buctootim
positivepete Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 Conceding no goals in a game averaged teams 2.5 points per game over the past 10 EPL seasons, scoring 2 was worth less than that over the same period. I would be happy with Spain style 1-0 wins where the opposition did not gain much possession.
dubai_phil Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 Conceding no goals in a game averaged teams 2.5 points per game over the past 10 EPL seasons, scoring 2 was worth less than that over the same period. I would be happy with Spain style 1-0 wins where the opposition did not gain much possession. Ole!
buctootim Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 Conceding no goals in a game averaged teams 2.5 points per game over the past 10 EPL seasons, scoring 2 was worth less than that over the same period. I would be happy with Spain style 1-0 wins where the opposition did not gain much possession. It depends what kind of game you enjoy. I know some people like very tactical defensive football, a lot of people don't. People like the Italians where attendances have dropped off a cliff since the late 1980s, stadia are less than half full. La Liga is in a similar situation. I'd rather watch end to end stuff than a chess game.
Viking Warrior Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 Can we not sigh someone with a name like John Smith for a change or is there competition to sign someone with the logest and most ridiculous name.
Toon Saint Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 Cortese seems obsessed with midfielders. Its like previous years when we already had a good midfield but were still signing new players when goalkeeping, defence and attack were all deperately light. What years are you talking about? We added 2 midfielders to the team last year (Davis, Ramirez), two attackers (J-Rod, Mayuka), three defenders (Maya, Clyne, Forren), and two goalkeepers (Boruc, Gaz). Arguably J-Rod or Ramirez could be classed as either midfielder or a forward, depending on where utilized, but I don't see that as disproportionate. We signed De Ridder and Cork in the Championship year (having lost Chamberlain) but pretty much same midfield remained from L1 - Morgan, Adam, Chappers, Hammond. Again, not really sign of an 'obsession'.
110_Persaint Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 Can we not sigh someone with a name like John Smith for a change or is there competition to sign someone with the logest and most ridiculous name.
NickG Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 But he doesn't does he? Everyone knew last close season we needed 1 or two experienced goalies and 2 quality CBs. Instead we got Ramirez and Mayuka for £17m, a lg2 rookie for £2m and Forren as a £4m panic buy. We were lucky Boruc was a free agent after the horror show start wake up call, otherwise we'd have been stuffed. Its not about names or rumours or judging on each player. Its what club needs to go forward. Also accepting every single club signs some who don't make impact. If you look at the step forward we have made, between each window, he has got it right. Of course could have done little better but that's pretty harsh!
buctootim Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 What years are you talking about? We added 2 midfielders to the team last year (Davis, Ramirez), two attackers (J-Rod, Mayuka), three defenders (Maya, Clyne, Forren), and two goalkeepers (Boruc, Gaz). Arguably J-Rod or Ramirez could be classed as either midfielder or a forward, depending on where utilized, but I don't see that as disproportionate. We signed De Ridder and Cork in the Championship year (having lost Chamberlain) but pretty much same midfield remained from L1 - Morgan, Adam, Chappers, Hammond. Again, not really sign of an 'obsession'. Im talking more about the curious trait of not strengthening in the areas where we are weak but instead spending big money where we are already strong - and then making panic buys when the results are clear. Maya was added on Aug 30th in panic after a disastrous pre season and early games when it had been abundantly clear to everybody Fonte and Hooiveld backed up Aaron Martin wouldn't be enough in the PL. Boruc signed in similar circumstances in late September when it transpired having KD backed up by a lg2 rookie wasnt a great idea after all.
Lets B Avenue Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 Im talking more about the curious trait of not strengthening in the areas where we are weak but instead spending big money where we are already strong - and then making panic buys when the results are clear. Maya was added on Aug 30th in panic after a disastrous pre season and early games when it had been abundantly clear to everybody Fonte and Hooiveld backed up Aaron Martin wouldn't be enough in the PL. Boruc signed in similar circumstances in late September when it transpired having KD backed up by a lg2 rookie wasnt a great idea after all. Despite the fact that Martin had been loaned out to C.Palace 2 weeks before our season started.
buctootim Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 Despite the fact that Martin had been loaned out to C.Palace 2 weeks before our season started. Thanks. Reminded me we had even less backup then.
Giordano Posted 17 July, 2013 Posted 17 July, 2013 We got it wrong last time. i agree with buctootim. But I think that NC in particular would want to learn from that mistake/ misjudgement. And that's why we have Lovren in early plus big vic, shaw and boruc signed up etc. Our defensive team is stronger than last year. I would like an extra fb but am guessing we have cover in the squad plus that's what the academy is for in part right? I'm not certain there's any need to get aggrieved if our next buy is, say Banega. He would in all probability be an upgrade on AL SD and JP if I'm being brutally honest, he's a current Argentinian international FFS! Elsewhre I think it's abundantly clear saints are looking to strengthen our attacking options. That we have not got that resolved is no surprise though- the kind of high level player we are now looking at will be part of a complex interconnected web of other transfers and alternate scenarios. Only Monaco bought early with Falcao, only 12 hours ago Cavani completed, only a few hours later we hear Rooney is to go, hulk is apparently available in the last few hours also. If we wanted an off the shelf striker we would have had three by now of the common garden variety. The likes of Osvaldo and Damiao are the level below these names as well as others like Negredo soldado and higuain. With those resolved our turn will come. We would not be getting associated with Catania strikers for example if we did not have a plan b, or c, and were unaware that we needed striking reinforcement. That's why the names are leaking out of these others ( plus it shows we have options) . We will get a striker. Just hope it's a good one of first or second choice, not 5th or 6th choice.
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