alpine_saint Posted 15 June, 2013 Share Posted 15 June, 2013 we signed cork the summer before at the beginning of july I would suggest you dont let the captains dinner burn as you desperately trawl our transfer history..... My last word on the subject: Looks like a sound piece of business, hopefully only the first,and we manage to kick on and come close to MPs target of being ready by July. Then maybe we can have a proper pre-season, for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 June, 2013 Share Posted 15 June, 2013 You run with it, fella. We all know now, waiting for the end of August to do our business is f**king bullsh*t... You were wetting yourself at there being no activity in the club because there was nothing you could quantify. Essentially a day later we sign a Croatian international centre back. Go to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 June, 2013 Share Posted 15 June, 2013 I would suggest you dont let the captains dinner burn as you desperately trawl our transfer history..... My last word on the subject: Looks like a sound piece of business, hopefully only the first,and we manage to kick on and come close to MPs target of being ready by July. Then maybe we can have a proper pre-season, for once. what on earth are you on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 June, 2013 Share Posted 15 June, 2013 He's finally lost his mind. Time to be put down Alpine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 June, 2013 Share Posted 15 June, 2013 He's finally lost his mind. Time to be put down Alpine. I saw those threads from the last few years. it was almost identical each summer. and each summer we have been promoted/stayed in the premier league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 June, 2013 Share Posted 15 June, 2013 I am laughing at the "end of August" happy clappies... Welcome to SFC, Dejan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 15 June, 2013 Share Posted 15 June, 2013 Why does he want to do it? Has he got some sort of fetish for being made to look silly on an Internet forum? Not being made to look silly specifically. Just any kind of argument with anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 June, 2013 Share Posted 15 June, 2013 I am laughing at the "end of August" happy clappies... Welcome to SFC, Dejan Yes, Lost it. Well, with Alpine it's all relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 16 June, 2013 Share Posted 16 June, 2013 Bullsh*t. This is just setting us up for another disappointing transfer deadline day. but Colin........what if (for once) we don't have to hold our breath until the last day. What IF ...the squad is all in place before the season starts, and have met each other ....and even TRAINED together ..Doesn't that sound more enthusing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Are we still run like a 5* boutique hotel? Ibis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Travelodge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Are we still run like a 5* boutique hotel? Ibis? Would someone eject this troll it is getting beyond boring. Literally every thread is now full of his ****, and now he is resurrecting old ones to get bites. This is Barry Sanchez all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Would someone eject this troll it is getting beyond boring. Literally every thread is now full of his ****, and now he is resurrecting old ones to get bites. This is Barry Sanchez all over again. He has a point, its ****ing embarrassing whats going on right now Still..... Atleast we have the stripes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 We will be the richest club in ther Championship tbf. A 5* boutique hotel in Grimsby if you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Sort of like a boutique hotel i suppose, but we're under new management now. We rent our rooms & boxes by the hour. There's a madam in charge. Flash us the cash and we'll bend over. There's a word for it, but it escapes me at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Travelogue, Ibis etc far more successful than a 5* Boutique Hotel. Just look at end of year balance sheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 He has a point, its ****ing embarrassing whats going on right now Still..... Atleast we have the stripes No. It isn't embarrassing, it isnt even close. Embarrassing is calling up a sex chat line and finding out its your mum on the other end of the phone. Or spending £35m on Andy Carroll, I can't decide which is worse. What we have done is sell - Lallana for the same price as of Germanys World Cup winners, Kroos and Khadeira - A 32 year old for 4 times what we paid for him - Shaw for the highest fee ever recorded for a teenager (depending on which reports you believe). We've replaced 2 of them spending less than a third of the money we made from sales. There is nothing embarrassing or alarming here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 No. It isn't embarrassing, it isnt even close. Embarrassing is calling up a sex chat line and finding out its your mum on the other end of the phone. Or spending £35m on Andy Carroll, I can't decide which is worse. What we have done is sell - Lallana for the same price as of Germanys World Cup winners, Kroos and Khadeira - A 32 year old for 4 times what we paid for him - Shaw for the highest fee ever recorded for a teenager (depending on which reports you believe). We've replaced 2 of them spending less than a third of the money we made from sales. There is nothing embarrassing or alarming here. I think something really embarrassing/stressful/devastating needs to happen in the life of some of these posters, give them some perspective in life. They must either be very young or had a very sheltered life IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 No. It isn't embarrassing, it isnt even close. Embarrassing is calling up a sex chat line and finding out its your mum on the other end of the phone. Or spending £35m on Andy Carroll, I can't decide which is worse. What we have done is sell - Lallana for the same price as of Germanys World Cup winners, Kroos and Khadeira - A 32 year old for 4 times what we paid for him - Shaw for the highest fee ever recorded for a teenager (depending on which reports you believe). We've replaced 2 of them spending less than a third of the money we made from sales. There is nothing embarrassing or alarming here. Will any of that make us a better football team? That's the most important question, and one that we won't be able to answer for a long time yet. But I'm guessing the answer is no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 He has a point, its ****ing embarrassing whats going on right now Still..... Atleast we have the stripes Why is it embarrassing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Why is it embarrassing? Losing 4 of our best players ? Regardless of the head burying stuff about all getting top moves etc Pretty embarassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 I think something really embarrassing/stressful/devastating needs to happen in the life of some of these posters, give them some perspective in life. They must either be very young or had a very sheltered life IMHO. Probably like pretending your someone completely different despite being proven on a forum you mean ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Losing 4 of our best players ? Regardless of the head burying stuff about all getting top moves etc Pretty embarassing Selling 4 players for nearly £80m is not embarrassing If we dont replace any.... Maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 20 July, 2014 Author Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Getting three players in the England squad for a World Cup and have none of them come back as a Saints player is pretty embarrassing. Couldn't wait to get them out of the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Losing 4 of our best players ? Regardless of the head burying stuff about all getting top moves etc Pretty embarassing It's starting to look pretty dire, let's hope the slide is halted sooner rather than later. Still, at least that tyrant Cortese is no longer at the helm eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Will any of that make us a better football team? That's the most important question, and one that we won't be able to answer for a long time yet. But I'm guessing the answer is no. It will if we spend the rest of the money on another four top quality players. I'd rather have six decent players than three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 It will if we spend the rest of the money on another four top quality players. I'd rather have six decent players than three. This in spades. I think this was always the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 It will if we spend the rest of the money on another four top quality players. I'd rather have six decent players than three. Indeed, but we're trading proven quality for potential quality. We all know that the club would have preferred to keep these players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Indeed, but we're trading proven quality for potential quality. We all know that the club would have preferred to keep these players. Lallana has had one good season in the Premier League, just like Charlie Adam and Andy Carroll. Shaw is all about potential quality. Utd didn't pay £30m because he is the best LB in the league, they were buying the potential. Lambert is 32 and already needed replacing. Grant Holt was proven quality a year or two ago, now he is playing for some pub team in Devon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 You're not wrong on any count, but every player we bring in will have a far bigger question mark over their head. Lambert I'll give you, but we really, really can't pretend that we wouldn't have rather kept Shaw and Lallana. And Lovren. And Pochettino, for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Is there a Dutch traditional equivalent of a B&B? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Selling 4 players for nearly £80m is not embarrassing If we dont replace any.... Maybe Jeez you know most on this board have lost the plot when Glasgae is the voice of reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Losing 4 of our best players ? Regardless of the head burying stuff about all getting top moves etc Pretty embarassing Hope you get over the embarrassment soon anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Selling 4 players for nearly £80m is not embarrassing If we dont replace any.... Maybe Well... Thats one thing Ill agree with you on Glasgee, theyve done well to fight for big fees. Though losing our spine ? Pretty terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Hope you get over the embarrassment soon anyway. Thats mate, hope I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Well... Thats one thing Ill agree with you on Glasgee, theyve done well to fight for big fees. Though losing our spine ? Pretty terrible Im boderline just now. Horrible watching our best players leave, gutted in many ways. But also excited to see Pelle & Tadic + whoever else we bring in. RoKo will have a cleanish slate, expectations will be low(er) and he may just really surprise us. Couple more signings and things will look alot more positive again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Still think they've been very niave, I dont agree with the whole assett stripping rubbish, they have just failed to control the footballing side IMO. Id expect to lose one or two after last year, but 4 ? 5 ? Thats rediculous and borderlines a dangerous situation for a football team. Regardless of the incomings losing our spine is incredibly disruptive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Getting three players in the England squad for a World Cup and have none of them come back as a Saints player is pretty embarrassing. Couldn't wait to get them out of the door. WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Billionaire owner or not without captain cortese steering the ship, we're just another busy 'bnb' fast running out of rooms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 What's embarrassing is some of the posts on this forum. When are people going to wake up and smell the coffee. The players want to leave because they can earn much much more money and play at a higher level and at bigger clubs. They will do anything to get away , because it suits them and their careers. it is nothing to do with lack of ambition or other such pony, they dont give a shiny shiete about SFC , the board or the supporters. The board had two options, hold them to their contracts and have disruption , negative headlines and a new manager trying to manage blokes who dont want to be here. Or, sell them for too dollar and let the new guy build a team of players that want to play for him. Every single time we unearth a gem, they will be poached away by a bigger club. Its just an exceptional set of circumstances that we had 5-6 in one go. Make no mistake if victor, Chambers or any if the others have a great season, they'll be offski next summer. Just as if we want 3 Boscombe players, we'll end up getting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 Billionaire owner or not without captain cortese steering the ship, we're just another busy 'bnb' fast running out of rooms The problem is Nic promised these boys, and MP, the moon on the stick. He then took the training ground spend to £38m and had to leave. MP then walked and the rest is history. Nic created a problem that the current regime are having to manage. This is a transitionay period which we'll get through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 The problem is Nic promised these boys, and MP, the moon on the stick. He then took the training ground spend to £38m and had to leave. MP then walked and the rest is history. Nic created a problem that the current regime are having to manage. This is a transitionay period which we'll get through. More like cortese walked when liebherr told him she wants to sell some players and make some cash! Long before cortese left, there was discontent rumoured when it became apparent allegedly that daughter no longer shares father's drive. Cortese was a man of strict discipline amd rule. why would he walk away from £2m a year. The man was an inspiration for the club as well as saviour. No Cortese, no Markus. People forget too quick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 (edited) The problem is Nic promised these boys, and MP, the moon on the stick. He then took the training ground spend to £38m and had to leave. MP then walked and the rest is history. Nic created a problem that the current regime are having to manage. This is a transitionay period which we'll get through. The good old moon on a stick promise, every dullard's favourite retort. Well done. Edited 21 July, 2014 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 20 July, 2014 Share Posted 20 July, 2014 More like cortese walked when liebherr told him she wants to sell some players and make some cash! Long before cortese left, there was discontent rumoured when it became apparent allegedly that daughter no longer shares father's drive. Cortese was a man of strict discipline amd rule. why would he walk away from £2m a year. The man was an inspiration for the club as well as saviour. No Cortese, no Markus. People forget too quick He didn't walk of his own accord. Sure, his wings were clipped but that was needed. Markus died a long time ago. His daughter has been at the helm for a long time. Last summers spending, and the training ground commitment, shows she was committed. Those are facts - I'll ignore your rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 21 July, 2014 Share Posted 21 July, 2014 The moon on a stick promise, every dullard's favourite retort. Wtf are you on about? He promised champions league and all that goes with it. False expectations are dangerous, as we've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 21 July, 2014 Share Posted 21 July, 2014 More like cortese walked when liebherr told him she wants to sell some players and make some cash! Long before cortese left, there was discontent rumoured when it became apparent allegedly that daughter no longer shares father's drive. Cortese was a man of strict discipline amd rule. why would he walk away from £2m a year. The man was an inspiration for the club as well as saviour. No Cortese, no Markus. People forget too quick Is your day job writing for Mills & Boon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 21 July, 2014 Share Posted 21 July, 2014 Wtf are you on about? He promised champions league and all that goes with it. False expectations are dangerous, as we've seen. Promised? Where was it promised? Hodgson told the media that England shouldn't be in the WC if it wasn't aiming to win it. Did he promise the WC? Lofty ambitions are part and parcel of sport. Even now the new regime is talking about Europe. Either you are wet-behind-the-ears or are being disingenuous. Now if you can point to specific, quasi-contractual promises, then that's a different matter. But you can't and won't. Ultimately, the players who joined knew full well the course we were taking -namely that we weren't going to break the bank to make progress and that we were going to integrate youth, even if it sacrificed a degree of short-run success. By definition, players know what side their bread is buttered on -contrary to dullards claims on here, so could work through the implications of what this approach was realistically likely to achieve. Nobody was hoodwinked or given false expectations about these constraints. Regardless they joined. The rest, including talk of CL football, is frankly irrelevant. As I say, no self-respecting dullard's bingo would be complete without some reference to moons on sticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 21 July, 2014 Share Posted 21 July, 2014 (edited) I thought that the idea was for the club to be self sufficient.Wasn't that in Marcus' original plan? I also thought that Nicola had rich investors lined up if Kat pulled the plug. So I have 2 questions for the nicolittes out there . One , how stupid do you have to be to really believe a club our size could play in the cl without a billionaire chucking millions away , year in year out and 2, where the **** are the investors? Edited 21 July, 2014 by Lord Duckhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 21 July, 2014 Share Posted 21 July, 2014 (edited) ...... Edited 21 July, 2014 by St Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 21 July, 2014 Share Posted 21 July, 2014 He didn't walk of his own accord. Sure, his wings were clipped but that was needed. Markus died a long time ago. His daughter has been at the helm for a long time. Last summers spending, and the training ground commitment, shows she was committed. Those are facts - I'll ignore your rumours. Not quite, the facts are :- When Markus passed away, it was very early into HIS Five year “project” Yes, Katharina took over, and , to her credit, she “honoured” her Father's “project”, which included the training ground. That was all Markus's plans, Not Katharina's, When that 5 year “project” was over (earlier this year), Katharina then implemented Her own “project” That was when the proverbial excretia hit the fan, because her vision of the future of SFC was way below what Markus's was. First one to take the hit was Cortese, because he realised SFC has/had reached it's peak under the Leibherrs. One of his very telling comments was that you don't progress by selling off your best players. Surely no one can still deny we are doing exactly that ? It was Katharinas “new” vision that has led Cortese, Pochettino and most of our Star players to jump ship. OK, they are leaving to better themselves, but that is simply because they no longer think they can better themselves at SFC How many on here think that we would be in this mess if Marcus, Cortese and Pochettino were still here ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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