Saint Garrett Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/features/130612/premier-leagues-best-players-position-revealed-199513 Morgan not even in the top 10? Wtf? No lambert, no cork no Shaw no Clyne....? Surely one or two of these should be in the top 10? Especially Morgan given his stats this season, and Rickie having such a good season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 its is crap. every show, day after day. All it is that they talk about is the top 4 plus spurs and liverpool H+J is the only decent show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Good, the less attention our players get from the media and other clubs the better as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 SWF saints bias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Good, the less attention our players get from the media and other clubs the better as far as I'm concerned. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 I take it you are the facebook user then G? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Did anyone actually read the article? All the stats are from Bloomberg Sports, not TalkSport who only reported it. There are plenty of players from teams all through the PL (obviously more from the top teams as you'd expect). Jay Rod the only Saints player (as an Attacking Mid), to save others a few clicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 I've said this before and I'll say it again: Initially Those W..nkers At } ****S Talk Sport I never listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Did anyone actually read the article? All the stats are from Bloomberg Sports, not TalkSport who only reported it. There are plenty of players from teams all through the PL (obviously more from the top teams as you'd expect). Jay Rod the only Saints player (as an Attacking Mid), to save others a few clicks. Not only that but the data is provided by Opta, so can't even blame Bloomberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 I usedto listen to Alan Brazil years ago in the morning, but gave up as it is such a shocking station. Cant believe it has not gone bump TBH!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 If Saints fans don't bother to take part in the nomination process what do you expect. I remember Luke Shaw was nominated but even the lad himself ignored by tweet, preferring to play games online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 its is crap. every show, day after day. All it is that they talk about is the top 4 plus spurs and liverpool H+J is the only decent show exactly this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Lowton is the second best RB last season?!?! Odd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 If you wanna know, ask Bloomberg. They know about all the soccerball players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Tabloid radio for a Tabloid audience. I preferred it when it actually had a 'talk' element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reib80 Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 I've grown to really dislike most shows on Talksport. The only one I really like is Andy Goldsteins Sportsbar in the evenings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 (edited) The stats are provided by Opta and here is Bloomberg's method for assessing who the best players are. Take issue with one or both of those, not the fact there's only one Saints player because that is only a result of the system. Nothing to do with Talksport whatsoever! It is odd that Schneiderlin's not in there though, considering all the Opta analysis we've been presented with this season has ranked him very highly. Just goes to show that you can bend the figures in many different ways and that they may well have been interpreted to make him look better at some points, as well as worse. Edited 12 June, 2013 by DuncanRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/features/130612/premier-leagues-best-players-position-revealed-199513 Morgan not even in the top 10? Wtf? No lambert, no cork no Shaw no Clyne....? Surely one or two of these should be in the top 10? Especially Morgan given his stats this season, and Rickie having such a good season. The only thing that amazes me about this is that you care so much - TalkSH*TE are as you say, utter b*llcks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 June, 2013 Author Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Odd though as Opta has reported Morgan is the best tackler/interceptor In the league! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Lowton is the second best RB last season?!?! Odd... to be fair. he has been brilliantfor villa lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WokingSaint Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 I disagree with all the adverse comments on here. Talk Sport has lost a lot of good presenters (Mike Dickin, Jon Gaunt, James Whale, Alan Collins) but Alan Brazil is still excellent and H & J are very good. As for Goldstein now he really is Bxxxxxxs!. Get him off ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Did anyone actually read the article? All the stats are from Bloomberg Sports, not TalkSport who only reported it. There are plenty of players from teams all through the PL (obviously more from the top teams as you'd expect). Jay Rod the only Saints player (as an Attacking Mid), to save others a few clicks. Not everyone did, it would seem. I guess the urge to criticise a media outlet for not saying that more than 1 player of a team that finished 14th in the league are the top ten player in their position in that league was a little too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Not everyone did, it would seem. I guess the urge to criticise a media outlet for not saying that more than 1 player of a team that finished 14th in the league are the top ten player in their position in that league was a little too much. This. As usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambertsrightleg Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Got a bit of a soft spot for talksport. Got me through my degree..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 The sort of people that listen to talksport and even worse take it seriously are the type that watch Jeremy Kyle, Britains Got Talent, TOWIE And X Factor. White van man intellect and below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Thanks for your email. That is a keen perception, and Schneiderlin was a very tough call on this list. Ultimately his propensity to foul and low aerial numbers worked against him, but you are right in that he had a very good season, and deserves some merit. After a moan to bloomberg sports this was the email I received (yes I did go moaning) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Thanks for your email. That is a keen perception, and Schneiderlin was a very tough call on this list. Ultimately his propensity to foul and low aerial numbers worked against him, but you are right in that he had a very good season, and deserves some merit. After a moan to bloomberg sports this was the email I received (yes I did go moaning) Seriously? You mailed them moaning about it?!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Yeh I asked why he never made the list given his stats , unlike you I dont just sit on here moaning ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 That Cundy C*nt on Andy Goldstein has to be the worse person on radio. To think he gets paid for the crap that comes out of his mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 June, 2013 Author Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Not everyone did, it would seem. I guess the urge to criticise a media outlet for not saying that more than 1 player of a team that finished 14th in the league are the top ten player in their position in that league was a little too much. I believe that given Morgans season (and stats back that up) he deserves a mention. Especially when players like Sidwell, Sandro who played half a season, Delph, and Diame are on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Yeh I asked why he never made the list given his stats , unlike you I dont just sit on here moaning ! Fair play to you. Question asked (in OP), question answered. Everyone else in here was just giving their opinions, mostly nothing to do with the question asked. Now we know that the stats were biased more towards aerial ability and tendency to foul that most other measures being used for midfielders (tackles / interceptions / passing). Debate away chaps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Fair play to you. Question asked (in OP), question answered. Everyone else in here was just giving their opinions, mostly nothing to do with the question asked. Now we know that the stats were biased more towards aerial ability and tendency to foul that most other measures being used for midfielders (tackles / interceptions / passing). Debate away chaps... Seriously, who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 You have to be a bit precious to give a flying f@ck surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 (edited) If you read the BSports methodology they rank things on efficiency so something like pass completion will get a high rating. Morgan will have attempted a lot of tackles and interceptions in the season, someone else might have done less but been more successful. it's a flawed system as people don't buy footballers on efficiency. It shows why for example Andy Carroll has got in the top 10 strikers, he wins a huge amount of headers. Does it make him a good player? no, not really but statistically he will be very efficient at winning headers so gets a high rating. yet the rating has him at virtually the same level as Michu last year. Anyone who actually watches football would know who they would want in their team out of those two. It also has Torres in the top 10 which says it all really. Edited 12 June, 2013 by tajjuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 June, 2013 Author Share Posted 12 June, 2013 You have to be a bit precious to give a flying f@ck surely? More about the fact there isn't an awful lot to talk about saints related at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Seriously, who cares? There are other threads if you are not interested in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 June, 2013 Share Posted 13 June, 2013 There are other threads if you are not interested in this one. Asking why anyone would care what Talksport think is up for discussion here. If you don't like that, there are other threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 June, 2013 Share Posted 13 June, 2013 There are other threads if you are not interested in this one. It's a perfectly valid question. Why are people up in arms about what has been reported on a radio station that has been hilariously nicknames on here 'talks*it' If you're unable to answe questions on your opinion then I suggest this isn't the mboard for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 June, 2013 Share Posted 13 June, 2013 It's a perfectly valid question. Why are people up in arms about what has been reported on a radio station that has been hilariously nicknames on here 'talks*it' If you're unable to answe questions on your opinion then I suggest this isn't the mboard for you. dont think anyone are up in arms. Just stating that talksport is a load of shyte. which is hardly a wild statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 13 June, 2013 Share Posted 13 June, 2013 Do any of the shows actually have any content amoungst all the adverts these day? Just cant listen to the station! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 13 June, 2013 Share Posted 13 June, 2013 How is Russell Martin of Norwich better than Clyne and Steve Sidwell a better holding midfielder than Morgan? Lol also at J Rod making the list as an attacking central midfielder (played equal amount of games as left attacking midfield and then CF from what I could see). Really bad tables those. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonian Posted 13 June, 2013 Share Posted 13 June, 2013 I actually quite like talk sport, I just don't take it as serious as some of you obviously do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 June, 2013 Share Posted 13 June, 2013 dont think anyone are up in arms. Just stating that talksport is a load of shyte. which is hardly a wild statement So bad you were tuning in the other day for reliable Saints transfer info Jamie!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted 13 June, 2013 Share Posted 13 June, 2013 I actually quite like talk sport, I just don't take it as serious as some of you obviously do Same. They talk about football pretty much all day (or on the way to and from work when I listen). Where else can I get that fix? Don't read the Sun however, never driven a white van, don't watch TOWIE. Sorry Turks to spoil your wild fantasies. I look forward to the day you no longer post on here (not much specifically with this thread, just a general observation on your incessant childish ramblings and sarcastic postings) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 June, 2013 Share Posted 13 June, 2013 I watch TOWIE for the comedy alone (none of the others), but you wouldn't catch me listening to Talk Sport. Troll radio. At least it was 10 years ago when I last didn't actively avoid it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 June, 2013 Share Posted 13 June, 2013 Same. They talk about football pretty much all day (or on the way to and from work when I listen). Where else can I get that fix? Don't read the Sun however, never driven a white van, don't watch TOWIE. Sorry Turks to spoil your wild fantasies. I look forward to the day you no longer post on here (not much specifically with this thread, just a general observation on your incessant childish ramblings and sarcastic postings) There is an ignore button if you're so delicate that you can't handle my posts. Being someone of white van man intellect though I'm not surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 13 June, 2013 Share Posted 13 June, 2013 I don't listen to TS in the week day mornings and daytime so I can't comment on that, but I find the evening and weekend output to be fine. If you are after football chat and Five Live is covering something else then TS is fine, Danny Kelly is good. I would rather listen to TS on a 3 o'clock on Sat (I would rather be at the game) than Five Live; I prefer them constantly going round the grounds than 5L who have a live commentry and report on Saints goals 5/10 minutes out of date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 June, 2013 Share Posted 13 June, 2013 So bad you were tuning in the other day for reliable Saints transfer info Jamie!! where did I say it was reliable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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