paulwantsapint Posted 10 June, 2013 Posted 10 June, 2013 Simple who was last player we brought then sold for a profit, so players who progressed from saints academy don't count, Guess would be Kenwyne Jones
Dr Who? Posted 10 June, 2013 Posted 10 June, 2013 I know it is not the last one, but we did very well out of KD
Matthew Le God Posted 10 June, 2013 Posted 10 June, 2013 Guess would be Kenwyne Jones Really? That was in 2007!
Chez Posted 10 June, 2013 Posted 10 June, 2013 it certainly would be unless you count the tidy sum we made on McGoldrick, signed from Notts county at 16 who spent a year or two in the academy.
Lighthouse Posted 10 June, 2013 Posted 10 June, 2013 Depends if Forrest paid any kind of fee for Harding I'd have thought. He signed on a free. The last player we sold for money, apart from AOC, was Rasiak I think but we wouldn't have made a profit on the £2m we paid for him.
RonManager Posted 10 June, 2013 Posted 10 June, 2013 Depends if Forrest paid any kind of fee for Harding I'd have thought. He signed on a free. Mentions a fee, but not how much. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19028273
ant Posted 10 June, 2013 Posted 10 June, 2013 Slight aside, but it seems that QPR may have paid a loan fee equal to what we originally bought Puncheon for. Not bad going. Did we pay Notts County anything for McGoldrick? Otherwise yes, in terms of paying for a player and then selling for more, it was Davies.
Saint_clark Posted 10 June, 2013 Posted 10 June, 2013 I wonder if we got any money for Safri Was that transfer even announced on our site in the end?
wireframebox Posted 11 June, 2013 Posted 11 June, 2013 Depends if Forrest paid any kind of fee for Harding I'd have thought. He signed on a free. The last player we sold for money, apart from AOC, was Rasiak I think but we wouldn't have made a profit on the £2m we paid for him. Oscar Gobern?
Chez Posted 11 June, 2013 Posted 11 June, 2013 Slight aside, but it seems that QPR may have paid a loan fee equal to what we originally bought Puncheon for. Not bad going. Did we pay Notts County anything for McGoldrick? Otherwise yes, in terms of paying for a player and then selling for more, it was Davies. yeah we paid an undisclosed fee, plus a sell on fee of over over a £100,000.
Window Cleaner Posted 11 June, 2013 Posted 11 June, 2013 yeah we paid an undisclosed fee, plus a sell on fee of over over a £100,000. and as we couldn't pay them an add on they made trouble for us at the FA, beginning of the end pre-administration. Must have cost us about 350K in all I think, 250K in installments according to various criteria and the sell on fee.
wireframebox Posted 12 June, 2013 Posted 12 June, 2013 Not to complicate things, but I believe that unless a player requests a transfer, the selling club has to pay off the remainder of contract? That's where the majority of transfer fees go, and will effect what you're discussing here. source: The Secret Footballer.
Fowllyd Posted 12 June, 2013 Posted 12 June, 2013 Not to complicate things, but I believe that unless a player requests a transfer, the selling club has to pay off the remainder of contract? That's where the majority of transfer fees go, and will effect what you're discussing here. source: The Secret Footballer. I think maybe you've misunderstood that. If a club simply wants to get rid of a player who doesn't want to leave (and has no other club to go to), then the club will have to pay up the contract or, at the very least, negotiate an agreed pay-off with the player. If, however, the player is wanted by another club and a move is agreed between clubs and player, there would be no need for the selling club to pay up the player's remaining contract. That holds whether or not a transfer request was submitted.
wireframebox Posted 12 June, 2013 Posted 12 June, 2013 I'm pretty sure that normal employment law comes in to force. The player has a fixed term contract of employment with the club? This can obviously be settled, but I would say that the transfer fee is only partly going back to the club. Page 98 of The Secret Footballer: "financially, there is a fortune to be made in the premier league just by moving clubs, and it works like this; as long as a player doesn't officially ask to leave his current club, he is legally entitled to the remainder of the value of his contract (this is nullified if you hand in a transfer request)." ...which also why you get so much unofficial 'come get me' stories in the press.
O_RLY Posted 12 June, 2013 Posted 12 June, 2013 I'm pretty sure that normal employment law comes in to force. The player has a fixed term contract of employment with the club? This can obviously be settled, but I would say that the transfer fee is only partly going back to the club. Page 98 of The Secret Footballer: "financially, there is a fortune to be made in the premier league just by moving clubs, and it works like this; as long as a player doesn't officially ask to leave his current club, he is legally entitled to the remainder of the value of his contract (this is nullified if you hand in a transfer request)." ...which also why you get so much unofficial 'come get me' stories in the press. This is not how it works in Football Manager... If a player signs a new contract with a different club after agreeing a transfer fee it invalidates his old contract, he doesn't get paid up. Sometimes players can agree to move club only if the old clubs pays a % of wage for the remainder of their old deal so as not to drop wage. If the club chooses to terminate the contract of the player it must pay up the remaining contract.
wireframebox Posted 12 June, 2013 Posted 12 June, 2013 This is not how it works in Football Manager... If a player signs a new contract with a different club after agreeing a transfer fee it invalidates his old contract, he doesn't get paid up.... I think they use 'loyalty payments' in Football Manager to simplify this?
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