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Crab Lungs

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Would have good to see how England would have done in that game with Ince and Rose.

 

Henderson and Shelvey would have ****ed around with all the incisiveness and inventiveness of an American Footballer kicking a ball for the first time. Wickham would have failed to read the game entirely and would have stood pretty much in one place for the entirety of the match as he doesn't like scoring and prefers to man-mark the opposition centre-backs.

 

Ince would have been our one creative spark and it would have been all down to him to create a moment of magic as it appears our fullbacks have been instructed not to go on any real barnstorming runs.

 

We'd have played in completely straight lines, been slow, predictable and utterly boring to watch. Depending on what Ince would have done, we might have scraped a draw.

 

A bit like the full side - just change the names around.

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Have never got the hype with Shelvey though, never even stood out at Charlton when I saw him.

 

I noticed when he came off it gave the distance he'd covered at 7 kilometres something. Not long after an Italian was substituted and he'd done 9k+. Not sure how the others compared, but the bits I saw were generally c**p.

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see clyne is still slipping over on the edge of his box again.

 

Whilst wearing a completely different pair of boots to those he's been wearing all season. He just does more direction changes more quickly than most players, evidently.

 

FWIW I just watched this recorded and he was pretty dodgy with the exception of one first time pass early on to Shelvey. The header/clearance wasn't his fault, but he got booked and should have conceded a pen which ended up being a goal anyway.

 

Still no idea what England's goal was disallowed for though.

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I seem to remember 'Boro signing massimo Macarone off the back of his performances for Italy in an u21 tournament, that went well.

 

He played for them in the UEFA Cup Final (and scored twice in the SF to get them there), they've literally never been more successful in their entire history than those two matches.

 

He's also scored about 40 Serie A goals in the past 6 years for Siena, Palermo and Sampdoria, which isn't so bad.

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Was the Italian goal disallowed?

 

Is the best England keeper Butland (flavour of the month about a year ago) or Kelvin (flavour of the month about two years ago?)

 

Please update me!

 

There was never a call for Kelvin for England. It was a fantasy of a couple of posters on here. A simple forum search will show you that all that was ever said was an ironic thread with that title, where the first post says "Not really", and a grudging comment that if he had an amazing start in the PL then he might one day get to be third choice if there were a lot of injuries. That constitutes the entire Kelvin for England brigade certain trolls on here started commenting on after a couple of months of poor performances in the PL. I did that search as soon as I saw the comments about it and there simply was no sign of any genuine calls for Kelvin for England, let alone the legendary "brigade".

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He played for them in the UEFA Cup Final (and scored twice in the SF to get them there), they've literally never been more successful in their entire history than those two matches.

 

He's also scored about 40 Serie A goals in the past 6 years for Siena, Palermo and Sampdoria, which isn't so bad.

 

He was crap for 'boro though wasn't he. He was also the third youngest bald man i've ever seen, after Chaplow and Shelvey.

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Agree that Shelvey was terrible, as was the first touch of most of the England players. A poor bunch of players imho.

 

The wide areas seem to be ok on the most part, just the spine of the team has nothing about them.

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He was crap for 'boro though wasn't he. He was also the third youngest bald man i've ever seen, after Chaplow and Shelvey.

 

He played in their most successful team ever. Not sure where you can go after that - oh yeah, they signed Afonso Alves. Now HE was crap for Boro.

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Goal Lazio!!!!!

 

"Golaço!" also "Golazo" and "Golaso".

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_Italia#Gola.C3.A7o.21

 

Always wondered why it was a Spanish or Portuguese word on Italian football...

 

José Altafini, voice of "golaço"

The show became well known in popular culture for a shout of Golaço!, Portuguese for "fantastic goal", featured at the start and at the end of each show. The sound clip is of Italian television football commentator José Altafini, a Brazilian who played in Serie A for AC Milan, Napoli and Juventus.[25]

"Golaço!" was commonly misinterpreted as "Goal Lazio!" and transcribed as "Golaccio!" in the show's titles.[25] However, James Richardson later added, "I heard Steve De Berry [steve DuBerry] who'd produced the music for the show say he'd wanted it to sound like 'go Lazio' because of Paul Gascoigne presenting it and so had added a twist to the soundbite."[8]

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Clyne dropped in favour of a Spurs RB who is 22, been loaned out 7 times and played for the first team once. I know he didn't have his best game the other night, but surely he's still the best option

 

It was the worst I've seen him play this season. Says something about his teammates too though, and yeah, he's probably the better option nevertheless. Maybe the complete lack of asking him to overlap means they want a more "defensive" player there.

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It was the worst I've seen him play this season. Says something about his teammates too though, and yeah, he's probably the better option nevertheless. Maybe the complete lack of asking him to overlap means they want a more "defensive" player there.

 

True, Clyne couldn't really afford to overlap often against Italy as he had zero protection if he got tackled/gave it away.

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It was the worst I've seen him play this season. Says something about his teammates too though, and yeah, he's probably the better option nevertheless. Maybe the complete lack of asking him to overlap means they want a more "defensive" player there.

 

This.

 

Typical bullsh1t Pearce "tactics".

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True. Until we sign another decent RB, his competition is Cork (out of position and bad at RB) and Yoshida (Same).

 

 

Aren't there any wonder boys in the U21s to push him at bit ? Our academy really isn't anything special or so it would seem.Everything worth having manifests itself at a very young age and all the rest just seem to fade away.

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Aren't there any wonder boys in the U21s to push him at bit ? Our academy really isn't anything special or so it would seem.Everything worth having manifests itself at a very young age and all the rest just seem to fade away.

 

I don't see any other academies churning out as many top level players as ours. Everyone knows you're extremely lucky to get 2 Prem players out of any single year, half the others will shuffle around the Championship or lower leagues and a few will fall off the radar into non-League or stop altogether.

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I thought Clyne was the best of a bad bunch in the last game!

 

Pearce is so out of his depth it's ridiculous.

 

Why do people keep saying this? He got to the final under him in 2009 and before this tournament had lost only 5 games in 41 matches with a win ratio of over 50%. That is good by any standards. Again it seems to be another case of lamblasting the manager without looking at the facts.

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just goes to prouve that PL reserves are worth diddly squat. At least we have no players involved in this potential debacle.

 

Even worse is that the last time the possession stats flashed up it was 79-21 in England's favour. Norway just look to have more quality on the final pass, the pass for the second goal was very good and made Caulker look like a tit.

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Even worse is that the last time the possession stats flashed up it was 79-21 in England's favour. Norway just look to have more quality on the final pass, the pass for the second goal was very good and made Caulker look like a tit.

 

what do you expect he doesn't play very often, looked a good player when he was at Swansea playing nearly every week but as Spurs only wheel him out on high days and holidays now it's no wonder he doesn't look to be progressing. The FA/PL just have to stop this practise of buying players to keep them off of the market.

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Pearce was a great player with passion for his country but is a shocking manager. He turned Notts Forest and Man City into dour defensive poor teams and achieved nothing. To say a managerial dinosaur like him his in charge if our youngsters says it all about our international teams. Prehistoric out of date football. We are light years behind country's like Spain and Germany and nothing is likely to change with the cretins we have at the FA.

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Wickham is on for the second half. I guess they figured out sending crosses towards a dwarf is not the best idea.

 

Wickham exemplifies all that is wrong with English football, Sunderland paid 10 million £ for a load of garbage just because he scored a few goals for Ipswich. An instant star with no craft or guile behind him.

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