The9 Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 ...anyone ? Walcott 9 wearing what looks like a kid's XLB shirt, a new era for England ?
The9 Posted 2 June, 2013 Author Posted 2 June, 2013 Firstly, what a terrible ball, and oh God they've got those awful "green screen" adverts that just look wrong again.
The9 Posted 2 June, 2013 Author Posted 2 June, 2013 The ball just disappeared behind a non-existent advert, FFS.
Batman Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Hart has the ball. Then thump down the pitch to give it away
The9 Posted 2 June, 2013 Author Posted 2 June, 2013 Hart has the ball. Then thump down the pitch to give it away Should get them the 3-0 defeat they crave.
Batman Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 I know this is a tough game away to a very good team. But my god, why can't we pass the ball more than 5 times in one go. When hart does roll it out. It's only to Johnson who then thumps it down field. 2 solid defensive lines with grafters in the team
Turkish Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 I know this is a tough game away to a very good team. But my god, why can't we pass the ball more than 5 times in one go. When hart does roll it out. It's only to Johnson who then thumps it down field. 2 solid defensive lines with grafters in the team Play to your strengths Jamie.
The9 Posted 2 June, 2013 Author Posted 2 June, 2013 (edited) Teletext holidays taking advantage of the fact that those pitchside adverts clearly aren't what is actually being broadcast inside the stadium to run a "DESPERATE TO GET AWAY LIKE WAYNE?" ad, most amusing. Edited 2 June, 2013 by The9 Corrected text.
The9 Posted 2 June, 2013 Author Posted 2 June, 2013 My favourite thing about this match so far is how the adverts on the replays are completely different to the ones when the action is shown live.
Batman Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Is it a good game? If you are a Brazilian, then yes If you are English. It's dreadful.
Dr Who? Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 If you are a Brazilian, then yes If you are English. It's dreadful. So a normal England game then?
Colinjb Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Brazil looking good in possession around the England area, Hulk nearly scorer with a cheeky back-heel and a ball across the box was spurned thanks to the efforts of Glen Johnson... Joe Hart has done well on a few occasions but we are having a few chances on the counter attack. Walcott had a golden chance and a better final ball would yield us a few more. It's all to play for.
Dr Who? Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Oh good god, it is on the TV! The picture looks like a picture from the 70's, and they are using an orange ball.
SNSUN Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 England look dire. Awful. Brazil are carving out all the openings, and only Hart is stopping them. Are these really the best set of players England has to offer? England to win 1-0. :-D
RonManager Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Lets just hope Joe Hart doesn't get an itchy scalp and have to come off otherwise this could be a cricket score
Dr Who? Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Oh the cricket is on the other side, but turn on when NZ are on 304, with over 20 balls and 7 wickets left....... I take this is going to be bad viewing as well?
Batman Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 I wonder how many more bad games Johnson is going to have for club and country before he is dropped?
The9 Posted 2 June, 2013 Author Posted 2 June, 2013 Oh good god, it is on the TV! The picture looks like a picture from the 70's, and they are using an orange ball. They are using an orange, pink, black and fluorescent yellow ball. Let us not understate this.
Colinjb Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 I wonder how many more bad games Johnson is going to have for club and country before he is dropped? Surely it can't be long until Clyne is called up. Oh, wait, I'm still assuming players are picked due to form.... silly me.
The9 Posted 2 June, 2013 Author Posted 2 June, 2013 Hedgehog Gutter Brush breaking South America I see. Along with Sun Goals and UFC on BT Sport... anyone would think they weren't the same ads the Brazilians were seeing. Unless you were referring to haircuts of course.
Dr Who? Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Someone is trying to save us suffering fans... No pictures! Ha ha
Dr Who? Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 When do the under 21's kick off? That will be more interesting!
Bearsy Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 I'm only in it for traditional cut to brazilian hotties in crowd, which has unfortunately been v.lacking so far!
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Surely it can't be long until Clyne is called up. Oh, wait, I'm still assuming players are picked due to form.... silly me. Clyne was allowed to go to the U21s tourney and walker is injured Also Johnson was near our POTT during the euros TBH Plus you cant pick an int team purely on form
Colinjb Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Plus you cant pick an int team purely on form It is one hell of an indicator of what you should be doing though.
Colinjb Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Very promising there from England, but no final ball..... again. Poor touch from Theo let it break down.
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 It is one hell of an indicator of what you should be doing though. Very much so, but if you have played the game it is very difficult to play with anyone you have never played with before, playing in a system vastly different to what your used to without spending time on the training pitch. International coaches and their selectors know that they have limited time to coach what they need, and so you get a bulk of players that are used to the system you require and can play together. Personally, these end of season friendlies are pointless. Let those able to play u21s play and the rest rest.
Colinjb Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Very much so, but if you have played the game it is very difficult to play with anyone you have never played with before, playing in a system vastly different to what your used to without spending time on the training pitch. International coaches and their selectors know that they have limited time to coach what they need, and so you get a bulk of players that are used to the system you require and can play together. Personally, these end of season friendlies are pointless. Let those able to play u21s play and the rest rest. This is a key point... Yes, it will be tricky to get players not that used to each other gelling as a team in a different tactic. The sign of a great international manager is one that can overcome this and get a team to buy into his system and with his team-mates quickly. Many other international sides mix a more diverse selection of players, those who play in different nations to each other, from different backgrounds and philosophies and achieve a blend far more successfully then the usual suspects from the Premier League European qualifiers. Our insistence on picking from this group is lazy and a sign of the technical shortcomings of our coaches, not just the players.
Colinjb Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Incidentally, 1-0 Brazil and AOC on for Glen Johnson.
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Yeah maybe thats true, many international teams dont have the choice of their players all playing together regularly. But if you look at most of the big teams they will have their pockets of players that play together. This is the reason that every int manager we have had picks from the top 6, its not rocket science
Wrensup Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 I see Fred as a Brazilian lambert, obviously way better though. Essentially what I'm getting at is Fred isnt the most mobile, has a good touch, finish and vision all traits we tend to agree lambert has. Also he's only a year and a bit younger than rickie. So if phil scolari thinks that sort of player is effective at 'international' level then why doesn't woy think similar? Just a thought haha
Colinjb Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Yeah maybe thats true, many international teams dont have the choice of their players all playing together regularly. But if you look at most of the big teams they will have their pockets of players that play together. This is the reason that every int manager we have had picks from the top 6, its not rocket science It's lack of dividend shows it to be a shortsighted and complacent approach. We need to think outside of the box, even our current manager admits the choice is too limited yet he still doesn't look outside.
Batman Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Roy Hodgson tactical genius. Going less cautious has worked. Carrick dropping deep to get the ball like Schneiderlin.
Turkish Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Going less cautious has worked. Carrick dropping deep to get the ball like Schneiderlin. Turns it around hasn't he, what a great manager.
Batman Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Turns it around hasn't he, what a great manager. Lets not pretend England have not been awful
Colinjb Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Lets not pretend England have not been awful Did you really expect anything else from a very limited England side in Brazil? We've done ok.
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 It's lack of dividend shows it to be a shortsighted and complacent approach. We need to think outside of the box, even our current manager admits the choice is too limited yet he still doesn't look outside. It wouldnt work, look at QPR, all capable, but if you change an entire team and system it can be a disaster
Turkish Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Lets not pretend England have not been awful The mark of a great team is one that gets a result despite playing badly.
Batman Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Did you really expect anything else from a very limited England side in Brazil? We've done ok. Expected far better passing though. At times, loads of times, aimlessly giving the ball away. Many times unchallenged Just then. Again, hart just booted the ball out from a goal kick
Wrensup Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Expected far better passing though. At times, loads of times, aimlessly giving the ball away. Many times unchallenged this I agree with, we may have scored but Christ we are terrible at passing (excluding the last 5 minutes)
Turkish Posted 2 June, 2013 Posted 2 June, 2013 Expected far better passing though. At times, loads of times, aimlessly giving the ball away. Many times unchallenged Just then. Again, hart just booted the ball out from a goal kick We've done that for the last 20 years, why do you think it'd change tonight?
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