Saint-Armstrong Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 A man has been beheaded by two men with swords in broad daylight, in Woolwich. The decapitation occurred right next to a primary school too, all the worse. Here are the tweets of a witness: https://twitter.com/BOYADEE Such terribly sad news. What even goes through the minds of some people. I understand the two men involved have been shot by police.
Jimmy_D Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630303 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630304
Julian H. Cope Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 I wonder if this sort of thing happens in Camden?
Clapham Saint Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 A man has been beheaded by two men with swords in broad daylight, in Woolwich. The decapitation occurred right next to a primary school too, all the worse. Here are the tweets of a witness: https://twitter.com/BOYADEE Such terribly sad news. What even goes through the minds of some people. I understand the two men involved have been shot by police. Does anybody on here understand those tweets?
Batman Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 (edited) I wonder if this sort of thing happens in Camden? None at all, I dont work too far from home so I am lucky. That part of London is certainly a 'hole' not surprisingly, hardly anyone around there are British. Apart from any forces personnel that live near there. My Old man grew up in South London and said it was never ever like this when he was a kid Edited 22 May, 2013 by Batman
Jimmy_D Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Looks like it was a soldier that was the victim according to the local MP there.
pap Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 None at all, I dont work too far from home so I am lucky. That part of London is certainly a 'hole' Fair play, the bat cave is right underneath Wayne Manor, but isn't a great deal of your work on site above the skyline of Gotham City. You can't work very well from home when Commissioner Gordon sends the bat-signal up.
stevegrant Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Looks like it was a soldier that was the victim according to the local MP there. Not entirely sure how the MP would know that, tbh. The local barracks aren't saying anything at this stage, and rightly so.
RedWillie Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Nope, this looks like an attack on a member of our military ! The ******s started asking people to take pictures, probably more likely terrorist related.
trousers Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 (edited) @SkyNewsBreak: Police are treating the killing in #Woolwich as a terrorist attack @SkyNewsBreak: Home Secretary Theresa May has called a meeting of the Government's emergency committee 'Cobra' in response to #Woolwich killing @SkyNewsBreak: Sky sources: #Woolwich killing was likely a politically-motivated Islamist terrorist attack Edited 22 May, 2013 by trousers
JackFrost Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Nope, this looks like an attack on a member of our military ! The ******s started asking people to take pictures, probably more likely terrorist related. They are indeed treating it as a terrorist related incident. That said I have come across quite a few cases where people who have got on the wrong side of notorious drug barons have met an end not too dissimilar to this.
Sour Mash Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Vile part of London, completely overrun by Somalian gangs. Disgusting.
SuperMikey Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 If in doubt, blame foreigners... regardless of nationality they're obviously sick individuals!
Sour Mash Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Whether they're from Britain or Mars it's a fcked up thing to do whatever garbage you've been brainwashed to believe. Trying to turn it into a nationality thing just makes you like a bellend. But if we're bringing in people from abroad who behave like this, then maybe it is an issue? Especially if their reason for behaving like this is that their culture and beliefs are at odds with ours.
Elias Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 But if we're bringing in people from abroad who behave like this, then maybe it is an issue? Especially if their reason for behaving like this is that their culture and beliefs are at odds with ours. This is a logical point of view. It isn't racist to suggest foreign ideologies brought over by foreign people are to blame for terrorism and a certain type of gang crime. John Smith from Romsey isn't likely to go around beheading people in the street or promoting hate crime. Still we'd better not rush to judgement here.
JackFrost Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 But if we're bringing in people from abroad who behave like this, then maybe it is an issue? Especially if their reason for behaving like this is that their culture and beliefs are at odds with ours. No different to the amount of British people who have behaved like this. All its taken is for someone to get on the wrong side of a baron, whose recruited a few jobbers coked up to the eyeballs.
SuperMikey Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Whitehall saying that the killers were chanting "Allahu Akbar" after they committed the attack. Not a single eyewitness has come forward to confirm the reports, despite there being several. Cobra called, Teresa May talking about this as a "terrorist attack"...
St Marco Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 But if we're bringing in people from abroad who behave like this, then maybe it is an issue? Especially if their reason for behaving like this is that their culture and beliefs are at odds with ours. Don't normally agree with Sour but I do 100% on this one. We don't know the reason behind this yet, don't know where they are from. But it is being reported they were shouting "God is great" in Arabic. Now that isn't me condemning Muslims or Arab's it is suggesting there is a clear difference in our cultures and faiths. Some and most likely these guys are people who have been brainwashed into thinking they need to kill British people. Thinking they have to do it because whoever is teaching them makes them think by doing so = Going to heaven. As Sour alludes to maybe it is time we as a Nation of people decided enough is enough with this kind of thing? If these people want to kill British people then go back to the middle east, pick up arms and attack soldiers who are armed and can defend themselves. Not attack random civilians on the street who have done nothing towards them. It is not racist not xenophobic to suggest people who move to this country, live in this country must drop old beliefs from their previous countries IF those beliefs are of hate towards people in that country. That is what I will never understand about these hate clerics and ****ed off Arabs in London. They hate us with so much passion but yet they are happy to live in the country they hate and use all the services in that country. That always strikes me as being slightly ****ed up no?
Lighthouse Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Christ, some of you are talking about this as if foreigner Islamists do this every day. When was the last time an incident like this happened? How often has it happened in say the last 20 years? Has anyone ever been murdered by a white British person? Mick Philpott, was he a Muslim?
Gemmel Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Wow https://twitter.com/Ste_Doughty/status/337261881649668096/photo/1
Tokyo-Saint Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Mick Philpott, was he a Muslim? He did have 6 wives.
Lighthouse Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Wow https://twitter.com/Ste_Doughty/status/337261881649668096/photo/1 Not in the least bit surprising. Sadly, incidents like this always bring out the sick minded, attention seeking internet trolls.
um pahars Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 This is a logical point of view. It isn't racist to suggest foreign ideologies brought over by foreign people are to blame for terrorism and a certain type of gang crime. John Smith from Romsey isn't likely to go around beheading people in the street or promoting hate crime. Still we'd better not rush to judgement here. It wasn't that long that British born terrorists were indiscriminately blowing up innocent civilians & assassinating people whilst English men like Jan Taylor and Patrick Hayes were blowing up Harrods. And gang crime moves with the times from the English East End hard men, through the yardies, triads etc. Our biggest threat is currently from British born jihadis. Of course the "influence" and their "cause" emanates from issues abroad, but we haven't got Al Qaeda running amok in this country.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Wonder how long before America launches a preemptive strike?
solentstars Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 terrible news about that dead soldier and the way they killed him.. and like all extremists live on another planet from decent people of all creeds and faiths.
S-Clarke Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Bloody shocking. This is possibly the only video with the killer speaking - http://order-order.com/2013/05/22/watch-itv-footage-of-terrorist-attack-aftermath/
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 I'd wager the attackers were Somalian-BritishYour right crabby, even that twitter T@t dekya is a Somalian! Says it all!!
mightysaints Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Don't normally agree with Sour but I do 100% on this one. We don't know the reason behind this yet, don't know where they are from. But it is being reported they were shouting "God is great" in Arabic. Now that isn't me condemning Muslims or Arab's it is suggesting there is a clear difference in our cultures and faiths. Some and most likely these guys are people who have been brainwashed into thinking they need to kill British people. Thinking they have to do it because whoever is teaching them makes them think by doing so = Going to heaven. As Sour alludes to maybe it is time we as a Nation of people decided enough is enough with this kind of thing? If these people want to kill British people then go back to the middle east, pick up arms and attack soldiers who are armed and can defend themselves. Not attack random civilians on the street who have done nothing towards them. It is not racist not xenophobic to suggest people who move to this country, live in this country must drop old beliefs from their previous countries IF those beliefs are of hate towards people in that country. That is what I will never understand about these hate clerics and ****ed off Arabs in London. They hate us with so much passion but yet they are happy to live in the country they hate and use all the services in that country. That always strikes me as being slightly ****ed up no? Totally agree with above but don't forget we give them free housing and all the other benefits. Why go back to a dump of country with no freedom when you can spout off here, slag us off and we just put up with it.
swannymere Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Absolutely shocking. Condolences to the victims family.
Sour Mash Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Wonder how long before America launches a preemptive strike? On Woolwich? Fingers crossed.
bridge too far Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 It's being suggested that the men were high on drugs and also that they didn't seem to have a 'Muslim appearance', whatever that is. Also, the guy on the video has a broad south London accent so probably British.
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 And bleeding liberals wonder why there's a rise in interest ,in groups like the EDL and NF. And to some degree UKIP!!!
Sour Mash Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 No different to the amount of British people who have behaved like this. All its taken is for someone to get on the wrong side of a baron, whose recruited a few jobbers coked up to the eyeballs. How many British people have beheaded someone for wearing a t-shirt they disagree with? And just because British people may have behaved like this in the past, doesn't mean we should be comfortable with importing people with such views? Have you been to Woolwich recently?
SuperMikey Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 And bleeding liberals wonder why there's a rise in interest ,in groups like the EDL and NF. And to some degree UKIP!!! Bigotry and racism?
Sour Mash Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 It's being suggested that the men were high on drugs and also that they didn't seem to have a 'Muslim appearance', whatever that is. Also, the guy on the video has a broad south London accent so probably British. So when he speaks of "our lands" he's referring to his Britain is he? On an amusing note, he appears to be wearing one of those vile Stone Island Beanie hats that Puncheon loves.
holepuncture Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Bloody shocking. This is possibly the only video with the killer speaking - http://order-order.com/2013/05/22/watch-itv-footage-of-terrorist-attack-aftermath/ Appalling, it dosent seem real. These savage beasts are making the good people of their culture unwanted and unemployable. Get rid of the lot I say before it really is too late. Stay vigilant people, its feral in many areas of our capital. Stay safe.
solentstars Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Bigotry and racism?agree but what do you expect from those who love scapegoating and i believe it was far right nutter who caused mayhem with his nail bombs in soho a few years . looks like it was 2 home grown britsh citizens who have been indoctrinated with extremist views.
Crab Lungs Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Just seen the footage of one of them, possibly Sierra Leone origin? Doesn't look Somali, not spindly enough.
Batman Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 This is why UKiP are sweeping in with popularity and having an influence on British politics This is disgusting. These people are probably happy to claim benefits, have a council flat, use the NHS and have free schooling. Make no mistake, if he is British by birth he is certainly not British by design Yet. The liberals will tell you to live and let live. Unless they are from Eaton or vote Tory. About time we stopped being so tolerant of Radical Islamists. Just look at the hilarity of that qatada fella
Batman Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 agree but what do you expect from those who love scapegoating and i believe it was far right nutter who caused mayhem with his nail bombs in soho a few years . looks like it was 2 home grown britsh citizens who have been indoctrinated with extremist views. Live and let live man. Quite sad when you have more scathing things to say about farage than this!!
St Marco Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 But that is where the problem lies. These two were obviously brainwashed. The guy in the video had a strong London accent so he probably has never even been to "our lands". But the guy's teaching them this rubbish are the ones who need to be dealt with but we can't do anything about it. If we try and stop it EU law prevents us doing anything. You know things have to change when you can't remove terrorists or hate preachers from your own country. The sad thing about it is that the punishment that will be given to these two guys will be nowhere near as severe as it would be if they had done something like that in where "their lands" is. They will be fed, clothed, have tv etc. Would we get the same treatment in their country? (if they are not from Britain). If there is any justice they should be locked up in a military prison. They will get beaten up every day for the rest of their lives.
Weston Super Saint Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Bigotry and racism? Absolutely! What other reasons would you have for beheading someone?
SuperMikey Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Absolutely! What other reasons would you have for beheading someone? I don't quite understand your point..
SuperMikey Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 agree but what do you expect from those who love scapegoating and i believe it was far right nutter who caused mayhem with his nail bombs in soho a few years . looks like it was 2 home grown britsh citizens who have been indoctrinated with extremist views. Pretty much - there are radical elements in many different sects of society that prey on the weak and indoctrinate them with radical beliefs. Seems that's what to blame here.
Weston Super Saint Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 I don't quite understand your point.. Really? I thought it was more than obvious that I was turning your own comment back on you and suggesting that the racist and bigoted ones in this story are actually the guys who did the beheading. Surely you can see this?
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