CFSFC Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Need to get together our top 11 to beat this Manc idiot in my london office who is putting together his list. So far Paine, shearer, god, bale, channon, shaw, etc
Hamwic Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 One of the finest forward lines I can remember included at various times Terry Paine, Martin Chivers, Ron Davies, Mick Channon and John Sydenham, possibly the best player never to be recognised at international level. Others might include Shilton, Shearer, MLT and the rapidly emerging Luke Shaw.
FloridaMarlin Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Might be an age thing, but if we're only allowed one centre-forward, Big Ron over Shearer. You would have to get Steve Williams in there somewhere, and central defenders? The Ginger Ninjahs, Mark Wright and Killer. He may not be the finished article just yet, but I think Clyne might end up being the best right-back I've seen a Saints shirt, edging out Mick Mills and Ivan Golac.
norwaysaint Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Not entirely sure we can claim to have brough Keegan, Ron Davies, Wright, Killer and Shilton through the ranks can we?
badgerx16 Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 I think it's easier to consider the attack than the defence. What formation would this team be playing ?
Sour Mash Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Not entirely sure we can claim to have brough Keegan, Ron Davies, Wright, Killer and Shilton through the ranks can we? Exactly - loads of people missing the point of this thread I think. We'd struggle with a keeper and defenders. Loads and loads of forwards to pick from. Le Tiss, Shearer, Wallaces, Walcott, Bale.....
Cabrone Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 MLT, Niemi, Killer, Dennis, Case, Ball, Bridge, Bale, Keegan, Channon to name a few. Looking at that lot we've had a few good left backs in our time haven't we.
Dimond Geezer Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 If "through the ranks" means from youth, then I'm struggling to think of a single keeper. The best I can do is Tim Flowers, but he was 19 when he signed for us & had established himself at Wolves with 60-something appearances behind him.
Chez Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 (edited) Blackstock in nets. No he came through notts county. Blaney? Edited 22 May, 2013 by Chez
redkeith Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Middleton Kenna Waldron Agboola Bridge Paine Willlams Holmes Bale
redkeith Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Pressed enter before putting Channon and MLT up front.
Sour Mash Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Middleton Kenna Waldron Agboola Bridge Paine Willlams Holmes Bale That's not bad. I'd cheat and put FLowers in goal, no-one would know. Problem is having to leaave out so many good forwards, Wallace brothers, Walcott, Chamberlain etc.
Under Weststand Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Keeper I'm struggling not sure Blaney really counts but not got another. I'd go with a sweeper so Kenna Waldron Agboola Whitlock Bridge Paine Williams Bale Le-god in the hole Shearer or Channon up front can't make my mind up.
red&white56 Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Can we claim Mark Wright at Centre back ? I'm not quite sure of the rules but he made his name with us even though he started life at oxford???
FloridaMarlin Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 D'oh! Misread the object of the thread. Obviously can't have Big Ron in there. Keepers? Gerry Gurr? Showed great promise until he dislocated his shoulder. Defenders; Jeff Kenna, Malcolm Waldron, Garry Monk (useless with us, but developed with Swansea), Manny Andrusewski, Reuben Agboola, Like Shaw. Midfielders; Steve Williams, Nick Holmes, Bale, Paine, Le Tissier. Strikers: Shearer, Channon, Rod and Danny Wallace, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain. You could pick a decent XI out of that.
moonraker Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Others: Wayne Bridge, Martin Chivers, Chris Baird, Alf Ramsey, C B Fry, Andy Townsend & Jason Dodd (from non league), Morgan Schneiderlin , Nathan Dyer, Andrew Surman and Adam Lallana
saintquin Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Steve Mills at right back. Iknow his career ended early but, he was a cracking player and looked like getting an England cap just before the car crash!
Badger Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 If "through the ranks" means from youth, then I'm struggling to think of a single keeper. The best I can do is Tim Flowers, but he was 19 when he signed for us & had established himself at Wolves with 60-something appearances behind him. Gerry Gurr in goal.
The Cat Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Darryl Flahavan is the best of a bad bunch of recent keepers.
VectisSaint Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Others: Wayne Bridge, Martin Chivers, Chris Baird, Alf Ramsey, C B Fry, Andy Townsend & Jason Dodd (from non league), Morgan Schneiderlin , Nathan Dyer, Andrew Surman and Adam Lallana How can you claim Alf Ramsey as home grown, he played for Skates before us. CB Fry played for top amateur clubs before joining Saints as a pro. Doddsy played for Bath City, Townsend played 140 times for Welling and 40 times for Weymouth before us. Morgan joined us from Strasbourg. So most of these are not "home grown" in the true sense of the phrase. My choice: Bob Charles, Chris Baird, Malcolm Waldron, Manny Andrusewski, Wayne Bridge, Terry Paine, Steve Williams, Gareth Bale, Matt Le Tissier, Mick Channon, Martin Chivers. Sorry no room for Wallace(s), Walcott, Oakley, Shearer or Oxlade-Chamberlain amongst others. MF/Strikers we are blessed, but GK/Defenders not so. Sorry but Manutd would win this hands down.
The Kraken Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Keith Granger Jeff Kenna - Malcolm Waldron - Mark Blake - Wayne Bridge Steve Williams - Nick Holmes Rod Wallace - Matt Le Tissier - Gareth Bale Alan Shearer
moonraker Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Whilst you are right I did sate Townsend and Dodd were from non-league so included them as it was Saints who gave them chance in the full profesional ranks.
VectisSaint Posted 22 May, 2013 Posted 22 May, 2013 Whilst you are right I did sate Townsend and Dodd were from non-league so included them as it was Saints who gave them chance in the full profesional ranks. Sorry, didn't realise you meant Townsend was non-league as well.
offix Posted 23 May, 2013 Posted 23 May, 2013 Might be an age thing, but if we're only allowed one centre-forward, Big Ron over Shearer. You would have to get Steve Williams in there somewhere, and central defenders? The Ginger Ninjahs, Mark Wright and Killer. He may not be the finished article just yet, but I think Clyne might end up being the best right-back I've seen a Saints shirt, edging out Mick Mills and Ivan Golac. No-one better then Golac
Cabrone Posted 23 May, 2013 Posted 23 May, 2013 Keith Granger Jeff Kenna - Malcolm Waldron - Mark Blake - Wayne Bridge Steve Williams - Nick Holmes Rod Wallace - Matt Le Tissier - Gareth Bale Alan Shearer I don't think any other club in England could claim to have brought through a better forward 4 than SFC. Wallace\Tiss\Bale and Shearer would be totally devastating and that's not even including Paine. As far as defence is concerned best not dwell on that too much.
FloridaMarlin Posted 23 May, 2013 Posted 23 May, 2013 No-one better then Golac At the moment, true. But I think Clyne has the potential to be better than even him.
Mowgli Posted 23 May, 2013 Posted 23 May, 2013 Shame Tommy Nofingers is ineligible. Well he did play for our youth team.... ... but at the risk of some abuse I would put Aaron Flahavan in goal despite him ending up at Pompey. he tragically lost his life at the age of 25 in a car crash but like his brother Darryl was a product of Saints youth. So... Flahavan Kenna Monk Baird Shaw Paine Williams MLT Bale Shearer Channon Subs: Wallace, Wallace, Wallace, Holmes, Bridge, Moran, Godfrey
Dellman Posted 23 May, 2013 Posted 23 May, 2013 Keeper I'm struggling not sure Blaney really counts but not got another. Shearer or Channon up front can't make my mind up. Channon every time for me
The Cat Posted 23 May, 2013 Posted 23 May, 2013 There's one Saints youth player everyone has forgotten. 21 England caps, 3 x FA Cup winner, one League Cup and a Cup Winners Cup trophy. All of which possibly makes him our most decorated youth team player of all time.
Sour Mash Posted 23 May, 2013 Posted 23 May, 2013 There's one Saints youth player everyone has forgotten. 21 England caps, 3 x FA Cup winner, one League Cup and a Cup Winners Cup trophy. All of which possibly makes him our most decorated youth team player of all time. Dennis Wise? Can't be classed as coming through the ranks though, as he only made it half way through them so to speak.
The Cat Posted 23 May, 2013 Posted 23 May, 2013 Dennis Wise? Can't be classed as coming through the ranks though, as he only made it half way through them so to speak. Depends whether you think he needs to make a first team appearance to come through the ranks. He was here until he was 18 so was old enough, just didn't graduate to the first team.
Sour Mash Posted 23 May, 2013 Posted 23 May, 2013 Depends whether you think he needs to make a first team appearance to come through the ranks. He was here until he was 18 so was old enough, just didn't graduate to the first team. Probably worth claiming that one then really.
Badger Posted 23 May, 2013 Posted 23 May, 2013 Keith Granger Jeff Kenna - Malcolm Waldron - Mark Blake - Wayne Bridge Steve Williams - Nick Holmes Rod Wallace - Matt Le Tissier - Gareth Bale Alan Shearer Granger conceded something like 11 goals in two games, although of course he was young and inexperienced at the time. Blayney might be a better choice. Or Gerry Gurr.
ChicagoSaint Posted 23 May, 2013 Posted 23 May, 2013 Graham Baker was a decent player his first spell.
Badger Posted 23 May, 2013 Posted 23 May, 2013 Agree about Graham Baker. From the same era we should add Trevor Hebbard, if only as a good squad player/sub who could play in a few positions.
The Kraken Posted 23 May, 2013 Posted 23 May, 2013 Granger conceded something like 11 goals in two games, although of course he was young and inexperienced at the time. Blayney might be a better choice. Or Gerry Gurr. Yeah, I wasn't exactly being serious with that one..... Although our dearth of top level keepers and CBs from our youth system in 30 odd years is a bit mysterious.
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