Player Ratings 2012/13

[Saint Charlie]

Now the season has finished, how do we feel our players did? My ratings are based up performance across the season as whole and I have decided not to cop out by selecting .5 scores...

 

My ratings below assuming the following:

1- Utterly, utterly terrible

2- Awful performance over the season

3- Extremely poor performance

4- Poor – not a good season

5- Below what was needed/expected

6- Average, did ok, nothing more

7- Decent season, more good than bad

8- Very good performance, can be proud

9- Absolutely superb season

10- Bale

 

1. Kelvin Davis – Poor season. Poor start and rightly replaced, just not up to this level. Distribution is terrible – its like he thinks too slowly of what to do and ends up making the wrong choice. 4

 

2. Nathaniel Clyne – Has got better as the season went on, and our most consistent defender by far. Very good first season in the Prem. Attacking especially has become a good feature of our play as a whole. Did make some costly slips at the start but no wideman has dominated him in the second half of the season. 8

 

3. Maya Yoshida – Another good signing who did well considering he was thrown into a team lacking any real defensive shape or confidence. Got better as the season went on, and was an ever present until he picked up a knock. 7

 

4. Morgan Schneiderlin – Not much to add than hasn’t already been said. Top class midfield operator and contributed some vital goals. Seems to lead the team too. 9

 

5. Jos Hooiveld – Top bloke and always committed but just isn’t good enough, too clumsy as a defender and not great with the ball at his defeat. Has made some costly errors (although did improve initially under MP). To be honest I feel he is lucky with his career background to have had a chance to play in the PL and with some of the good players we have as he is far from their level. 5

 

6. Jose Fonte – Up and down season, at times looks very good and others looks poor. Would imagine both he and Hooiveld will find first team football a lot harder next season. 6

 

7. Rickie Lambert – Great first season as he showed everyone else what we already knew: he could score goals at this level. Some great strikes and his link up play at times has been superb. Would certainly benefit from us being able to rest him – was the only man to be involved in all 38 league games and already a Saints legend Joint top English scorer with Lampard. 8

 

8. Steven Davis – After 5 games we wondered why we had signed him, but since Cork came back in and Davis moved further up the pitch he has been decent, pretty much coinciding with Pochettino’s arrival. Neat and tidy on the ball but doesn’t show enough goal threat or creativity to be sure of a first team place in that position. 6

 

9. Jay Rodriguez – Season of two halves. First half he was struggling, out of position and getting used to a step up in class. Second half, again since MP came in, he has looked excellent. Seems to have found a yard extra pace and some performances have been top drawer (Chelsea & Liverpool home and Reading away especially). Big season next year, needs to kick on. 7

 

10. Gaston Ramirez – Huge expectation and superb performance at home to Villa probably only added to that. Clearly very talented but found the physical/fitness side tough and hasn’t been consistently what we hoped. Has all the key attributes though so hope to see more after a full pre season. 6

 

11. Billy Sharp – N/A

 

12. Paulo Gazzaniga – Tough ask to come into a PL side with such little experience (poor management somewhere along the line). Great kicking, and very athletic but just too raw which isn’t his fault. Couldn’t really have expected much more from him, hope he can develop on loan somewhere next year. 6

 

13. Danny Fox – He isn’t a defender, and has made a career because he has a very, very tidy left foot and can cross and deliver set pieces very well. Defensively though he has been exposed in nearly every game he has played and is out of his depth at this level. 3

 

14. Dean Hammond – N/A

 

15. Vegard Forren N/A

 

16. James Ward-Prowse – For a 17 year old with no real pro experience to deliver the performance he did on the opening day was brilliant and he has had other good moments. Clearly will be a decent player, just didn’t have the strength to be a regular in the holding role instead of either Cork or Morgan. Can be well pleased with his year. 7

 

18. Jack Cork – Made a massive difference when he returned from injury. Somehow wins an obscenely high amount of his 50/50 duels and uses the ball well too. Our best features are the attacking full backs and central midfield pair and he is a big part of this. Never likely to score or directly create, but does his job very well and is super consistent. 8

 

19. Tadanari Lee- N/A

 

20. Adam Lallana – Overall he will be a little disappointed. Had some great moments, and does have so much ability on the ball but too often the end product isn’t there. He really misses that extra yard of pace to get away from a defender, and his finishing has regressed the last few years it seems. Unfairly targeted on here IMO, but we know, and he knows, that he can do better. 6

 

21. Guly Do Prado – Did ok when he played on the whole, but for an attacking player just doesn't provide enough and never looks likely to get a goal. 5

 

22. Frazer Richardson – N/A

 

23. Luke Shaw – Very, very good first season as a pro and clearly destined for the top. Superb 1v1 defender and then added to his attacking game once he got comfortable. The only downside (and one which will improve with age) is that he picks up so many knocks, viruses and colds which has meant Fox was required more than would have been ideal. 8

 

24. Emmanuel Mayuka – Hard to say. Has looked bright enough if the limited times he has been on the pitch but equally hasn’t looked outstanding. Going away to the ACON pretty much ruined his season as he was away when MP came in and struggled to get a look-in after that. 5

 

31. Artur Boruc – Very good second half of the season after a nightmare start when he had let himself go and wasn't fully fit meaning we had to take him back out the side leading to the Gazza episode and then some more ‘Komical Kelv’. Once he came back into the team he has been excellent, very good 1v1 stopper and quick throws also good. Bit of a character which helps because our team can seem quiet. Pen save at Norwich a big moment. 7

 

33. Steve De Ridder – Simple: wasn’t good enough last season so never was going to be this time. Only got brief appearances but the fact he did shows the depth wasn’t there. Was also poor in a loan spell at Bolton. Harsh to rate him because of such few apps but he did come off the bench a fair few times around Christmas/New Year. 4

 

42. Jason Puncheon – Will be disappointed not to have got more games of late as has been probably the most consistent of the wide midfielders and has scored some good and vital goals. Really turned his time at Saints around so fair play to him. 7

 

Summary

 

3: Fox

4: K. Davis, De Ridder

5: Hooiveld, Guly, Mayuka

6: Fonte, S. Davis, Ramirez, Gazzaniga, Lallana

7: Yoshida, Rodriguez, JWP, Boruc, Puncheon

8: Clyne, Lambert, Cork, Shaw

9: Schneiderlin

Edited 20 May, 2013 by Saint Charlie

[Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod]

Giving De Ridder a 4 is more than generous, would be a 1 from me. Also, I don't see how you can give Ramirez a 6, when he has definitely not lived up to expectation plus that is the same score you have given Steven Davis, which I disagree with. For me he has been very solid for us and always puts a great shift in, would give him a 7.5. Other than that, I think you have got them pretty much spot on.

[Saint Charlie]

Giving De Ridder a 4 is more than generous, would be a 1 from me. Also, I don't see how you can give Ramirez a 6, when he has definitely not lived up to expectation plus that is the same score you have given Steven Davis, which I disagree with. For me he has been very solid for us and always puts a great shift in, would give him a 7.5. Other than that, I think you have got them pretty much spot on.

 

I wasn't sure with Davis. He is a tidy player, but playing in the hole as he has, I don't seem him as a massive threat to other teams. Ramirez has more goals (5 to Davis' 2) and assists (4 to Davis' 2) and so I think its fair they get the same score. Davis also was out the side for a lot of the season, and to give him a 7.5 like you say, I would expect a little more. A 7 on the second half of the season yes, but not overall for me.

 

Ramirez has not been as good as we hoped this season but still scored 5 league goals in 20 starts - I think a 6 is fair, he was superb in a handful of games, whilst also poor in others.

Edited 20 May, 2013 by Saint Charlie

[Smirking_Saint]

Swap Lambert and Boruc and I more or less agree

[ottery st mary]

All Saints players and staff get 10/10 from me...

 

Well done you Saints..

 

AND of course the bestest fans in the land..

[Hamilton Saint]

That's a fair summary.

 

 

(You've put Gazziniga in the wrong group in that final summary - you gave him a 6.)

[Roger]

Swap Lambert and Boruc and I more or less agree

 

Why? 15 goals is enough to keep us up.

[Saint Charlie]

Swap Lambert and Boruc and I more or less agree

 

Lambert 7 and Boruc 8 as a reflection of the whole season?

 

Not for me.

[Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod]

I wasn't sure with Davis. He is a tidy player, but playing in the hole as he has, I don't seem him as a massive threat to other teams. Ramirez has more goals (5 to Davis' 2) and assists (4 to Davis' 2) and so I think its fair they get the same score. Davis also was out the side for a lot of the season, and to give him a 7.5 like you say, I would expect a little more. A 7 on the second half of the season yes, but not overall for me.

 

Ramirez has not been as good as we hoped this season but still scored 5 league goals in 20 starts - I think a 6 is fair, he was superb in a handful of games, whilst also poor in others.

 

Fair enough but I think Davis has consistently performed well and we would miss his work rate - something which you can't rely on Gaston for.

[Smirking_Saint]

Lambert 7 and Boruc 8 as a reflection of the whole season?

 

Not for me.

 

Yes, Boruc when relied upon has had a fantastic season, not his fault he was sat on the bench for so long.

 

Lambert has been ok, but at times been completely abject. He did as expected for me, no more, certainly not up there with cork and clyne.

[Saint_clark]

Do Prado set up Lamberts goal V Stoke earlier in the season.

[pingwing]

De Ridder and Fox very over rated in that synopsis, both deserved 1's for being so monumentally not up to it this year.

 

Steven Davis probably deserves a 7 now we have worked out how to deploy a proper box to box player now as well.

 

Oh and Guly got an assist and did a decent job when asked.

[Saint Charlie]

Do Prado set up Lamberts goal V Stoke earlier in the season.

 

He did indeed.

[Saint Charlie]

Yes, Boruc when relied upon has had a fantastic season, not his fault he was sat on the bench for so long.

 

Lambert has been ok, but at times been completely abject. He did as expected for me, no more, certainly not up there with cork and clyne.

 

Boruc wasn't fit enough for professional football when he joined, which is something he could have done something about IMO. Took him too long to get up to speed for him to be worthy of an 8 for me, but I get what you mean.

 

If Lambert had a few less goals I could also probably agree but 15 league goals speaks for itself.

[The9]

My summary

3: Fox

4: De Ridder

5: Gazzaniga, Guly, Mayuka

6: K Davis, Hooiveld, Fonte, Ramirez, Ward-Prowse, Lallana

7: Yoshida, S Davis, Shaw, Puncheon

8: Clyne, Lambert, Rodriguez, Cork, Boruc

9: Schneiderlin

Edited 20 May, 2013 by The9

[The Kraken]

Not bad young Charles, but I would change the following:

 

Lallana 5; by his own high standards I think he has been consistently below par.

Cork 8; a night and day change of fortune since he came in.

Rodriguez 5; probably won't be popular but I think his last 4 or 5 games have regressed from the improvement shown initially under MP.

Gazzaniga 5; it's a by product that keepers will get judged predominantly on mistakes made that lead to conceded goals.

Clyne 9; he has been consistently brilliant.

[The9]

Fair enough but I think Davis has consistently performed well and we would miss his work rate - something which you can't rely on Gaston for.

 

Davis has a great workrate but Gaston's is certainly passable, plus you get his creativity - Davis seems to suit the transitional pressing game better though, because whilst Gaston is more creative and a better incisive passer, Davis' skill set includes more defensive ability to get the ball back to begin with, and if we're winning the ball high up the pitch with the defence out of position, the need to play a really accurate pass forward is reduced because there's more space to work in. Horses for courses really, we've moved away from pure pressing in the last few matches and it'll be interesting to see how it develops further.

[Dig Dig]

My summary:

 

2- Fox

4- K Davis, Gazzaniga

5- Hooiveld, Mayuka

6- Fonte, Guly, S. Davis, Lallana, JWP

7- Yoshida, Rodriguez, Ramirez (based on when he has been fit/hand a run of games), Puncheon

8- Shaw, Boruc, Lambert

9- Cork, Schneiderlin

Edited 20 May, 2013 by Dig Dig

[JackFrost]

My summary

 

2: De Ridder

3: Fox

4: K Davis, Gazzaniga,

5: Hooiveld, Ramirez,

6: Fonte, Ward-Prowse, Lallana, Guly, Mayuka

7: Yoshida, S Davis, Puncheon, Clyne,

8: Shaw, Lambert, Rodriguez, Boruc

9: Schneiderlin. Cork,

[tajjuk]

Now the season has finished, how do we feel our players did? My ratings are based up performance across the season as whole and I have decided not to cop out by selecting .5 scores...

 

My ratings below assuming the following:

1- Utterly, utterly terrible

2- Awful performance over the season

3- Extremely poor performance

4- Poor – not a good season

5- Below what was needed/expected

6- Average, did ok, nothing more

7- Decent season, more good than bad

8- Very good performance, can be proud

9- Absolutely superb season

10- Bale

 

1. Kelvin Davis – Poor season. Poor start and rightly replaced, just not up to this level. Distribution is terrible – its like he thinks too slowly of what to do and ends up making the wrong choice. 4

 

2. Nathaniel Clyne – Has got better as the season went on, and our most consistent defender by far. Very good first season in the Prem. Attacking especially has become a good feature of our play as a whole. Did make some costly slips at the start but no wideman has dominated him in the second half of the season. 8

 

3. Maya Yoshida – Another good signing who did well considering he was thrown into a team lacking any real defensive shape or confidence. Got better as the season went on, and was an ever present until he picked up a knock. 7

 

4. Morgan Schneiderlin – Not much to add than hasn’t already been said. Top class midfield operator and contributed some vital goals. Seems to lead the team too. 9

 

5. Jos Hooiveld – Top bloke and always committed but just isn’t good enough, too clumsy as a defender and not great with the ball at his defeat. Has made some costly errors (although did improve initially under MP). To be honest I feel he is lucky with his career background to have had a chance to play in the PL and with some of the good players we have as he is far from their level. 5

 

6. Jose Fonte – Up and down season, at times looks very good and others looks poor. Would imagine both he and Hooiveld will find first team football a lot harder next season. 6

 

7. Rickie Lambert – Great first season as he showed everyone else what we already knew: he could score goals at this level. Some great strikes and his link up play at times has been superb. Would certainly benefit from us being able to rest him – was the only man to be involved in all 38 league games and already a Saints legend Joint top English scorer with Lampard. 8

 

8. Steven Davis – After 5 games we wondered why we had signed him, but since Cork came back in and Davis moved further up the pitch he has been decent, pretty much coinciding with Pochettino’s arrival. Neat and tidy on the ball but doesn’t show enough goal threat or creativity to be sure of a first team place in that position. 6

 

9. Jay Rodriguez – Season of two halves. First half he was struggling, out of position and getting used to a step up in class. Second half, again since MP came in, he has looked excellent. Seems to have found a yard extra pace and some performances have been top drawer (Chelsea & Liverpool home and Reading away especially). Big season next year, needs to kick on. 7

 

10. Gaston Ramirez – Huge expectation and superb performance at home to Villa probably only added to that. Clearly very talented but found the physical/fitness side tough and hasn’t been consistently what we hoped. Has all the key attributes though so hope to see more after a full pre season. 6

 

11. Billy Sharp – N/A

 

12. Paulo Gazzaniga – Tough ask to come into a PL side with such little experience (poor management somewhere along the line). Great kicking, and very athletic but just too raw which isn’t his fault. Couldn’t really have expected much more from him, hope he can develop on loan somewhere next year. 6

 

13. Danny Fox – He isn’t a defender, and has made a career because he has a very, very tidy left foot and can cross and deliver set pieces very well. Defensively though he has been exposed in nearly every game he has played and is out of his depth at this level. 3

 

14. Dean Hammond – N/A

 

15. Vegard Forren N/A

 

16. James Ward-Prowse – For a 17 year old with no real pro experience to deliver the performance he did on the opening day was brilliant and he has had other good moments. Clearly will be a decent player, just didn’t have the strength to be a regular in the holding role instead of either Cork or Morgan. Can be well pleased with his year. 7

 

18. Jack Cork – Made a massive difference when he returned from injury. Somehow wins an obscenely high amount of his 50/50 duels and uses the ball well too. Our best features are the attacking full backs and central midfield pair and he is a big part of this. Never likely to score or directly create, but does his job very well and is super consistent. 8

 

19. Tadanari Lee- N/A

 

20. Adam Lallana – Overall he will be a little disappointed. Had some great moments, and does have so much ability on the ball but too often the end product isn’t there. He really misses that extra yard of pace to get away from a defender, and his finishing has regressed the last few years it seems. Unfairly targeted on here IMO, but we know, and he knows, that he can do better. 6

 

21. Guly Do Prado – Did ok when he played on the whole, but for an attacking player just doesn't provide enough and never looks likely to get a goal. 5

 

22. Frazer Richardson – N/A

 

23. Luke Shaw – Very, very good first season as a pro and clearly destined for the top. Superb 1v1 defender and then added to his attacking game once he got comfortable. The only downside (and one which will improve with age) is that he picks up so many knocks, viruses and colds which has meant Fox was required more than would have been ideal. 8

 

24. Emmanuel Mayuka – Hard to say. Has looked bright enough if the limited times he has been on the pitch but equally hasn’t looked outstanding. Going away to the ACON pretty much ruined his season as he was away when MP came in and struggled to get a look-in after that. 5

 

31. Artur Boruc – Very good second half of the season after a nightmare start when he had let himself go and wasn't fully fit meaning we had to take him back out the side leading to the Gazza episode and then some more ‘Komical Kelv’. Once he came back into the team he has been excellent, very good 1v1 stopper and quick throws also good. Bit of a character which helps because our team can seem quiet. Pen save at Norwich a big moment. 7

 

33. Steve De Ridder – Simple: wasn’t good enough last season so never was going to be this time. Only got brief appearances but the fact he did shows the depth wasn’t there. Was also poor in a loan spell at Bolton. Harsh to rate him because of such few apps but he did come off the bench a fair few times around Christmas/New Year. 4

 

42. Jason Puncheon – Will be disappointed not to have got more games of late as has been probably the most consistent of the wide midfielders and has scored some good and vital goals. Really turned his time at Saints around so fair play to him. 7

 

Summary

 

3: Fox

4: K. Davis, De Ridder

5: Hooiveld, Guly, Mayuka

6: Fonte, S. Davis, Ramirez, Gazzaniga, Lallana

7: Yoshida, Rodriguez, JWP, Boruc, Puncheon

8: Clyne, Lambert, Cork, Shaw

9: Schneiderlin

 

 

Agree with most of this. I would probably give Gazza one less, Boruc one more and Jay Rod one less. Jay Rod had a purple patch but faded of late, over the whole season probably not a 7 so similar to Gaston lots of promise but not enough conistent good games.

[saints_is_the_south]

Good post, and I would agree with most, but i fail to understand how Hooiveld gets a 5, but Gazzaniga a 6? Nor how SDR even gets a vote at all, when others with a similar amount of games get a N/A. I've added .5's to my vote.

 

Mine would be:

 

1. Kelvin Davis – 4.5

 

2. Nathaniel Clyne – 8

 

3. Maya Yoshida – 7

 

4. Morgan Schneiderlin – 9

 

5. Jos Hooiveld – 6

 

6. Jose Fonte – 5.5

 

7. Rickie Lambert – 8.5

 

8. Steven Davis – 6.5

 

9. Jay Rodriguez – 7

 

10. Gaston Ramirez – 6

 

11. Billy Sharp – N/A

 

12. Paulo Gazzaniga – 4.5

 

13. Danny Fox – 3

 

14. Dean Hammond – N/A

 

15. Vegard Forren N/A

 

16. James Ward-Prowse – 6.5

 

18. Jack Cork – 8

 

19. Tadanari Lee- N/A

 

20. Adam Lallana – 6

 

21. Guly Do Prado – 5

 

22. Frazer Richardson – N/A

 

23. Luke Shaw – 8.5

 

24. Emmanuel Mayuka – 4.5

 

31. Artur Boruc – 7.5

 

33. Steve De Ridder – N/A

 

42. Jason Puncheon – 7.5

[Dellman]

Gazza's errors cost us a lot of points, how can he be 6 and Kelvin only 4, I would swop them around; otherwise pretty much agree

[Window Cleaner]

Gazza's errors cost us a lot of points, how can he be 6 and Kelvin only 4, I would swop them around; otherwise pretty much agree

 

4 points and 3 places in the League, about 2.5 million £. Still it's not his fault that he was thrown in at the deep end when he could only doggy paddle, that's Adkins fault because he had a perfectly capable goalkeeper at his disposal.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

De Ridder 0.01

[Window Cleaner]

De Ridder 0.01

 

and that's generous

[Saint Charlie]

Gazza's errors cost us a lot of points, how can he be 6 and Kelvin only 4, I would swop them around; otherwise pretty much agree

 

Only just based upon the fact that IMO Gazza wasn't signed to be in the team. He is a rookie keeper and IMO did pretty much what would be expected for someone at that stage in their career. He wasn't poor so much as clearly not ready for the first team, and had KD not been so awful then he wouldnt have been near it.

 

Davis IMO has been worse than Gazza when you consider the relative stages of their career and what you could have hoped from them.

[Saint Charlie]

Good post, and I would agree with most, but i fail to understand how Hooiveld gets a 5, but Gazzaniga a 6? Nor how SDR even gets a vote at all, when others with a similar amount of games get a N/A. I've added .5's to my vote.

 

Mine would be:

 

 

2. Nathaniel Clyne – 8

 

5. Jos Hooiveld – 6

 

6. Jose Fonte – 5.5

 

23. Luke Shaw – 8.5

 

 

 

I think Clyne has been consistently better than Shaw and Fonte better than Jos who has certainly been a big weakness and has to get a below average score.

 

See my above post re Gazza, but would say when you think of age, experience etc that Hooiveld has lowered his reputation this season more than Gazzaniga has.

[de-fence]

My summary:

 

3: Fox

4: K. Davis, Mayuka, Gazzaniga

5: Hooiveld

6: Fonte, Lallana, Guly, Ramirez

7: Yoshida, Rodriguez, JWP, Boruc, S. Davis

8: Clyne, Lambert, Shaw, Puncheon

9: Schneiderlin, Cork

[Andre]

Only counting players who made appearances in the league (and Sir Forren)...

 

1 - none

2 - none

3 - Fox

4 - Hooiveld

5 - Gazzaniga, De Ridder, Sharp, Reeves

6 - K. Davis, Fonte, Guly, Richardson, Mayuka, Chaplow

7 - S. Davis, Ramírez, Ward-Prowse, Lallana

8 - Yoshida, Lambert, Rodriguez, Cork, Boruc, Puncheon

9 - Clyne, Schneiderlin, Shaw (just)

10 - Forren

[Saint Charlie]

Can't believe there are a few rating K. Davis as a 6 which basically means he has done ok.

 

He has been poor. Unquestionably.

[Saint Charlie]

Jay Rod seems to divide opinion - been rated between 5 (too low) and 8 (too high).

[Dig Dig]

Only counting players who made appearances in the league (and Sir Forren)...

 

1 - none

2 - none

3 - Fox

4 - Hooiveld

5 - Gazzaniga, De Ridder, Sharp, Reeves

6 - K. Davis, Fonte, Guly, Richardson, Mayuka, Chaplow

7 - S. Davis, Ramírez, Ward-Prowse, Lallana

8 - Yoshida, Lambert, Rodriguez, Cork, Boruc, Puncheon

9 - Clyne, Schneiderlin, Shaw (just)

10 - Forren

 

De Ridder, Sharp, Reeves and Gazza ahead of Hooiveld?

[Glasgow_Saint]

Guly, de ridder and Fox are lucky to get 1 combined

[Scummer]

Jay Rod seems to divide opinion - been rated between 5 (too low) and 8 (too high).

 

He had a good spell when Pochetinno arrived but since the Reading game he seems to have gone backwards again.

[Smirking_Saint]

Hmm interesting, Im the only one who thinks that Lambert doesnt deserve an 8. For me our main striker not being in the box enough is scandalous. He has done well, but not in the same league as Cork, Morgan, Clyne and Shaw and Boruc.

 

That is a key area I would like to see strengthened next year

[Dellman]

How can De Ridder be rated so high, what has he done? Because I support all Saints players I would be generous and give him 2

[Jimmy_D]

Hmm interesting, Im the only one who thinks that Lambert doesnt deserve an 8. For me our main striker not being in the box enough is scandalous. He has done well, but not in the same league as Cork, Morgan, Clyne and Shaw and Boruc.

 

That is a key area I would like to see strengthened next year

 

I don't think he's been deployed as a main striker for quite a while now.

[Appy]

3. Fox, Mayuka, De Ridder,Richardson

 

4: Guly, Gazzaniga, KD

 

5- Hooiveld

 

6- Yoshida, Fonte, JWP,Steven Davis,Lallana,

 

7- Boruc,Rodriguez, Puncheon

 

8- Clyne,Shaw,Lambert

 

9- Schneiderlin,Cork

[Smirking_Saint]

I don't think he's been deployed as a main striker for quite a while now.

 

Then we havnt had one for a while now..... Possibly why we have been so woeful infront of goal

[CFSFC]

Hmm interesting, Im the only one who thinks that Lambert doesnt deserve an 8. For me our main striker not being in the box enough is scandalous. He has done well, but not in the same league as Cork, Morgan, Clyne and Shaw and Boruc.

 

That is a key area I would like to see strengthened next year

 

Name me another striker that has 15 goals in prem league for saints?

[JackFrost]

4 points and 3 places in the League, about 2.5 million £. Still it's not his fault that he was thrown in at the deep end when he could only doggy paddle, that's Adkins fault because he had a perfectly capable goalkeeper at his disposal.

 

I don't get this myth that Adkins made some big mistake by not playing Boruc because he was apparently easily our best keeper since the day he signed.

 

Boruc was overweight and nowhere near match sharp when he was given his first run in the team and was dropped for a very good reason (see highlights of our defeat to Spurs for one example) and we had 3 equally poor keepers in KD, Gazza and Boruc.

 

Boruc only came good when Davis continued to struggle and AB was put in as a last resort just before the January transfer window, and thankfully started to produce somewhere near his best form, because he was fit and had sharpness.

 

During late 2012 he was no better than our other two keepers.

[Saint Garrett]

My ratings below assuming the following:

 

3- De Ridder, Richardson

4- Fox, Mayuka, K Davis, Gazza

6- Guly, Lallana, Fonte, Yoshida

7- Davis, Ramirez, J-Rod, Puncheon, JWP,

8- Lambert, Boruc

9- Schneiderlin, Cork, Shaw, Clyne

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Lol at giving Sharp a 5.

[Sour Mash]

Hmm interesting, Im the only one who thinks that Lambert doesnt deserve an 8. For me our main striker not being in the box enough is scandalous. He has done well, but not in the same league as Cork, Morgan, Clyne and Shaw and Boruc.

 

That is a key area I would like to see strengthened next year

What mark would you give Lambert out of interest?

[norwaysaint]

I agree with most but:

 

9. Jay Rodriguez – As a striker who's figured heavily this season, he hasn't scored enough goals for the chances he's had, despite the team providing possession and chances that should have made it straight forward for him. If we have the ball in attacking positions as much as we did, whose fault is it we're not scoring if not his? I hope he'll improve, but he's flattered to deceive a bit imo. I think his good run of games has blinded people to a mediocre season overall. 6

I think people wanting to bump up Boruc's rating are forgetting how vulnerable he was in his early games. If he hadn't been such a liability when he came in, we wouldn't have had to experiment with Gazzaniga. Such an experienced keeper shouldn't have been so jittery. Glad he proved himself in the end, but a 7 across the season is about right. The 8 will be for next season.

[Appy]

I agree with most but:

 

9. Jay Rodriguez – As a striker who's figured heavily this season, he hasn't scored enough goals for the chances he's had, despite the team providing possession and chances that should have made it straight forward for him. If we have the ball in attacking positions as much as we did, whose fault is it we're not scoring if not his? I hope he'll improve, but he's flattered to deceive a bit imo. I think his good run of games has blinded people to a mediocre season overall. 6

I think people wanting to bump up Boruc's rating are forgetting how vulnerable he was in his early games. If he hadn't been such a liability when he came in, we wouldn't have had to experiment with Gazzaniga. Such an experienced keeper shouldn't have been so jittery. Glad he proved himself in the end, but a 7 across the season is about right. The 8 will be for next season.

 

If Adkins had stuck with Boruc, we would've potentially had about 6 more points.

[Saint Garrett]

Boruc really wasnt that bad vs Spurs or WHU in my opinion.

[Window Cleaner]

Boruc really wasnt that bad vs Spurs or WHU in my opinion.

 

Boruc said himself that Adkins didn't want him here and used the bottle throwing to cast him aside.

Don't know why people just won't accept that this is the situation that got Adkins sacked.

[Sour Mash]

Boruc said himself that Adkins didn't want him here and used the bottle throwing to cast him aside.

Don't know why people just won't accept that this is the situation that got Adkins sacked.

when did Boruc say that? Not seen this quote.

[Manuel]

Broadly agree. Puncheon is an 8 for me though. Hope to see him next season.