View From The Top Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 MP has spoken about getting our business done early, by July 1st. Personally I'd be over the moon about that as our pi.ssing about last summer, regarding CBs, IMHO, seriously impacted on the 1st 1/3 of the season. Nice to get bodies in early and a proper pre-season done this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 Indeed, though it could mean a rather tedious wait until August if there's no rumours flying about. Remember that not all players will be available for transfer right at the start as some have contract negotiations that go well into the summer so I'd hope we at least have our eyes open in case a bargain crops up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 RVP didnt join Man U until August 15th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 18 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 18 May, 2013 RVP didnt join Man U until August 15th! Good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 I think every club intends on getting it done early, but I guess it's hard to get deals done with the backwards & forwards deal making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 I think that we will see a couple of players join early but as usual, one or two will drag out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 Obviously, in a perfect world all dealings would be done for the first day of pre-season. In the real world, these things take time, and often rely on a whole chain of other transfers, and with the increased money involved in transfers as we progress, there are more stakeholders to placate. Despite Alpines annual petulant strop, it's no coincidence that in every transfer window the busiest period is the last week. It's just how it works. I don't really get how people constantly knock our transfer dealings. Since the take over, we have started every season stronger than we ended the previous one. I hope we get it sorted soon, of course. But I would rather exercise some patience and get the right players in. This is going to be an exciting pre-season I think. Bring on the rumours. COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints boy in Leeds Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 I think every club intends on getting it done early, but I guess it's hard to get deals done with the backwards & forwards deal making. And players going on thier jollys ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 Obviously, in a perfect world all dealings would be done for the first day of pre-season. In the real world, these things take time, and often rely on a whole chain of other transfers, and with the increased money involved in transfers as we progress, there are more stakeholders to placate. Despite Alpines annual petulant strop, it's no coincidence that in every transfer window the busiest period is the last week. It's just how it works. I don't really get how people constantly knock our transfer dealings. Since the take over, we have started every season stronger than we ended the previous one. I hope we get it sorted soon, of course. But I would rather exercise some patience and get the right players in. This is going to be an exciting pre-season I think. Bring on the rumours. COYS Totally agree. People will say that our start was because we didn't buy a CB, but we did......it just took everyone a little bit longer to adapt, it wasn't down to our lack of signings. As we saw as the season progressed, our signings were excellent on the most part. And the same can be said for the last 3 years. Some of our fans act like petulant spoilt brats. They don't know how lucky we are. There are so many clubs in the world who can't buy anyone until they sell, or can't buy anyone full stop. We can, we are and we will sign players. If that's by the 1st of July, August or September, I couldn't care. If they continue their track record then who can complain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 I will be amazed if we actually got everything done early, but it would certainly make a nice change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 Every club has grand intentions of "getting our business done early" but it very rarely pans out like that. You only have to look at the number of deals that are done in the last few days of the transfer window to see the evidence of it, and it's because of that the transfer window should close the day before the season starts IMO. The problem is that, while teams want to sign players as soon as possible, they don't want to sell them early, so there's a massive chain reaction when one team finally blinks and releases a player for transfer which then allows a load of other transactions to take place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 If they continue their track record then who can complain? Lots and lots, you wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 don't think there will be too much to be done anyway and as Mauricio seems to have identified his targets perhaps we can be hopeful that the "transfer committee" is a thing of the past and that the job will be got on with asap. Expect just 2 or 3 myself and a lot of outs if we can find any takers of course.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 I'll go for four signings in and a **** load out. The quality of the signings will of course be key and I doubt they will disappoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 I think you will see a lot of clubs doing good early business as they want one get as much prep done before the preseason kicks off . Liverpool have come out said they want it do e early. The winds of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 I think Alpine is right. This has been a disaster and no one will sign for Saints and we will probably still get relegated this season! LMAO. I'm guessing/hoping Astori is an early signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 It is now clear that last summer's lethargy in the transfer market was because NC knew NA was temporary and didn't want to buy a load of NA's targets, rather wanted to wait for 1) MP and 2) secure Premier League status. Expect some serious outlay on serious players this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 It is now clear that last summer's lethargy in the transfer market was because NC knew NA was temporary and didn't want to buy a load of NA's targets, rather wanted to wait for 1) MP and 2) secure Premier League status. Expect some serious outlay on serious players this summer. Was there lethargy? We didn't seem too lethargic getting Rodrigiuez very early in the summer for what was a then club record fee. We didn't seem too lethargic chasing Ramirez all summer long before finally snaring him as the window was closing. There didn't seem to be a lack of effort; just a debatably questionable issue of prioritising high spending in certain positions of the pitch over others. Which kinds of makes it even more interesting to see where our piriorities will be seen to lie this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 the right players on the right wages more important than getting them in early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 I disagree with the OP. Yes, early signings are good, but the right signing is better. Getting both is a very rare scenario. You see, any player who is good enough to be the 'right' player, is likely to be good enough to receive a number of offers, as such they are likely to delay their decision while they weigh up their options. To get the 'right' player in early, you either need to have better scouts than your opposition, or make far more attractive (aka expensive) offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 I disagree with the OP. Yes, early signings are good, but the right signing is better. Getting both is a very rare scenario. You see, any player who is good enough to be the 'right' player, is likely to be good enough to receive a number of offers, as such they are likely to delay their decision while they weigh up their options. To get the 'right' player in early, you either need to have better scouts than your opposition, or make far more attractive (aka expensive) offers. Ah but it's not just about having better scouts, it's also about having better knowledge of the top end market, how much players are on (ball park wise) who has a buy out clause, who's chairman might be open to offers and roughly how much. Great advantage of having a manager who's been there and done that. Last season we started with a handicap on that front and we had the ridiculous transfer committee because of it. Now we seem to have a management team with a bit of savvy beyond Wigan and S****horpe, blokes who've been involved in International football and the contacts that go with it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 MP has spoken about getting our business done early, by July 1st. Personally I'd be over the moon about that as our pi.ssing about last summer, regarding CBs, IMHO, seriously impacted on the 1st 1/3 of the season. Nice to get bodies in early and a proper pre-season done this year. I've always been a fan of getting your targets signed asap to remove the chance of them going anywhere else where possible, but until this season we've always been in a situation where our options have been limited by our status, either as "just promoted" or "waiting to see who's not loaned out/in financial trouble". Certain posters' bed-wetting over our lack of early signings has always been hilarious given the prevailing conditions, but this time around it's a stated goal to get them in early - which has certainly been the case with Forren if you believe him, signed 4 months before the season even finished to add to us next year. This year may be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 (edited) Can we not **** about like we did last year. In Quality European Centre backs with pace for our European adventure a must. A break the bank centre forward for Marseille away Out Hooiveld Fonte FOX Guly Gazzaniga De Ridder Seabourne Mayuka Lee Barnard Forte Martin Dickson Butterfield El pronto and a real statement of intent is printing 2014-2015 European shirts and selling them now. Edited 18 May, 2013 by Barry Sanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 the right players on the right wages more important than getting them in early. Completely agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 Can we not **** about like we did last year. In Quality European Centre backs with pace for our European adventure a must. A break the bank centre forward for Marseille away El pronto and a real statement of intent is printing 2014-2015 European shirts and selling them now. pfff you could find about 80 tyro league strikers in the SO postal district that could score against Marseille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 Assuming that the people of the club are of an equal intellect to most of the posters on this forum, I have a feeling that they may have worked out what they need to buy. I also think that the work for the 2 or 3 main targets has been done, MP joining us AND of course the clever PR game of the past few days all point to them coming on board pdq. It will be the opportunist signings that will drag. The "We need someone better than JP/AL" We need another SRL IF one becomes available. Those may take some time. Plus it will take Messi a month or so to sort out all his image rights deals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 I'm looking forward to seeing what kind of signings Mauricio and Nicola bring in. A couple of grafters to strengthen in key areas (full back and on the wing) and a quality CB and striker will do me. 4 or 5 signings and getting rid of some of the dead wood in the squad. Out: Forecast (gone already) Butterfield Forte Fox Chaplow Seaborne Martin Hooiveld (providing we bring in another CB) Sharp (providing we bring in another ST) Barnard Richardson (see Hooiveld and Sharp) Still think Guly, Mayuka etc are good squad options. Should see the likes of Chambers, Isgrove, Stephens etc involved in the squad more too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 According to a Dutch football website we are interested in Anderlecht CB Bram Nuytinck (yes the same guy we were interested in last summer, then playing for NEC Nijmegen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 According to a Dutch football website we are interested in Anderlecht CB Bram Nuytinck (yes the same guy we were interested in last summer, then playing for NEC Nijmegen) Link to article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 According to a Dutch football website we are interested in Anderlecht CB Bram Nuytinck (yes the same guy we were interested in last summer, then playing for NEC Nijmegen) I think the Belgium and Dutch Leagues are a great place for us to look at, their Leagues are a good standard and the teams at the top are all pretty good, bargains to be had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 Why the rush? We left some of our business late last summer and our league position suggests we didn't suffer because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 Link to article? Its not Nuytinck, its his Cheikhou Kouyate we are supposed to be interested in (my mistake, didn,t read the article properly) http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/130515/newcastle-and-southampton-keen-anderlecht-star-197615 @Barry Sanchez, The Dutch league is certainly a good league for us to scout players in, the Dutch football academies are good and players get good training from a young age. The players to look out for are Wilfred Bony (Vitesse), Viktor Fisher (Ajax), Feyenoord defenders Bruno Martins-Indie and Stefan de Vrij, Virgil van Dijk (FC Groningen) and Kevin Strootman (PSV). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 Why the rush? We left some of our business late last summer and our league position suggests we didn't suffer because of it. I wouldn't read too far into it but it's fair to say that the early signings have made a bigger impact than the later ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 Assuming that the people of the club are of an equal intellect to most of the posters on this forum, ... God I hope they're brighter than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 The Dutch league is certainly a good league for us to scout players in, the Dutch football academies are good and players get good training from a young age. The players to look out for are Wilfred Bony (Vitesse), Viktor Fisher (Ajax), Feyenoord defenders Bruno Martins-Indie and Stefan de Vrij, Virgil van Dijk (FC Groningen) and Kevin Strootman (PSV). Mertins at PSV is pretty good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 18 May, 2013 Share Posted 18 May, 2013 I think Strootman has been linked with Chelski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 May, 2013 Share Posted 19 May, 2013 MP has spoken about getting our business done early, by July 1st. Personally I'd be over the moon about that as our pi.ssing about last summer, regarding CBs, IMHO, seriously impacted on the 1st 1/3 of the season. Nice to get bodies in early and a proper pre-season done this year. What a truly outrageous opinion and what a display of lack of footballing knowledge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 May, 2013 Share Posted 19 May, 2013 What a truly outrageous opinion and what a display of lack of footballing knowledge... i doubt he will go into hyper melt down about it. will you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 May, 2013 Share Posted 19 May, 2013 i doubt he will go into hyper melt down about it. will you? Possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 May, 2013 Share Posted 19 May, 2013 Possibly. definitely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 19 May, 2013 Share Posted 19 May, 2013 It's a lot easier to get the business done early if we're trying to sign players that no other teams are chasing. The high appeal and high value players always seem to take longer, and - frankly - I'd rather see us slug it out for real quality. Having said that, it's probably going to be easier to address the key central D problem, so I'd like to see that one done early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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