Made in Southampton Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 (edited) MP will leave the club if NC leaves. Just keeps getting better. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11700/8715504/Southampton-boss-Mauricio-Pochettino-will-leave-if-Nicola-Cortese-quits Edited 16 May, 2013 by JustMike link added and title changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints boy in Leeds Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Will be a bad thing IMO if they go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 So the owner's want to get rid of Saints, NC is in a sulk so he's off and MP won't need to bother to speak English after all. Another fine mess you've got us into. We are Southampton, we do it our way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 FFS. One thing I will say, if all this happens, Cortese leaves, Pochettino leaves, possibly even the Liebherrs pull out - please can it happen ASAP so it can be resolved in some way and not drag the saga on through the summer! Events like this have the possibility to derail our season next year even before it's begun. Even before this one has ended, in fact. I really hope everything stays as it is. The future's bright as it stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 It's never a dull moment. hope this is brinkmanship to put some pressure on the Liebherrs. either way it needs to be sorted double quick.....or a summer of indecision looms. just when we appear to be on the up and on a level footing. its so infuriating. sincerely hope Cortese stays. puts a twist on Sundays atmosphere for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 If NC goes we will most likely be relegated IMO. The club, rightly or wrongly, is lead by him and the management and players are mostly there for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 MP won't need to bother to speak English after all. Change the record... Did you not see the interview with him from the club awards night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 A crisis, is just around the corner IMO, this would be very bad news, as we are moving in the right direction. New balls please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Situation just needs resolving asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonko Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 It'll be fiiiiiiiiiiiine........ Stop worrying. edit: probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 All this is media speculation. I sincerely doubt that NC will leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 I had taken this as a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 I'm just glad all this is happening after we've secured a premier league position next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 I'm just glad all this is happening after we've secured a premier league position next season. Quite convenient. Non? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 If the argie Alan Perrin wants to go then let him FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 So now we're going to be relegated because of a manager and chairman change , i wish i could get odds on this as i'd most certainly become a rich man ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downthe36 Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 I had taken this as a given. Exactly, I couldn't have ever seen Pochettino staying without the investment he was obviously promised to get him here. What's that bespectacled scouse manager with the dodgy tan up to at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomi Saint Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 No surprise. All the decent players will be off too. If the Germans are trying to sell then the valuation is plunging by the minute. This appears to be a real power play, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 No surprise. All the decent players will be off too. If the Germans are trying to sell then the valuation is plunging by the minute. This appears to be a real power play, sadly. what Germans ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 It's all politics and posturing. "Give us what we want or we are off!" Just depends on whether the threats are empty or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 No surprise. All the decent players will be off too. If the Germans are trying to sell then the valuation is plunging by the minute. This appears to be a real power play, sadly. #ahem# Swiss.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomi Saint Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 what Germans ? Our owners. Just because they are Swiss-based doesn't mean they are Swiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Our owners. Just because they are Swiss-based doesn't mean they are Swiss. It doesn't mean they're German either. HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 it is so unusually in the public eye as well. Normally all this is done internally. This is not what we need as a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Our owners. Just because they are Swiss-based doesn't mean they are Swiss. but they are; can't see what you're on about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Its all going a bit tits-up, isnt it ? If MP is now being dragged into what is developing into a very public spat between NC and the Liebherrs, both sides must be fairly deeply entrenched. This is going to take ages and seriously f**k up next season. Serious risk of relegation next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Well i am a bit more sanguine about all of this. Its all leaky stuff in the media. Known egos who want what they want. Rumours feed rumours, plus its all a bit of fun. The club is more than one person, whoever it is (apart perhaps from MLT from time to time). If MP would leave if NC goes then fine, bye bye, if that is your whole motivation for the job. Equally if NC is off because of a power struggle, then fine, i am sure there are plenty of ggod replacements. maybe not as good, but if they are not egocentric then that is a plus that doesn't seem to have been considered. In which case, in the round, maybe we are better off? What i would like is stability, and that means sane rational people running the place. It is NOT an impossible job: the fact that a fair number of basket cases are running football clubs just proves that. You need a chariman.board/senior management structure that can run things in a business-like way, a football manager/director/coaches etc who know their business, and a good squad of motivated players. The whole is bigger than every individual part. So get on with the job. If NC is posturing then get a grip. If the trust are pulling out then get on with it. If MP is spitting the dummy then go and get NA back. Or maybe they just like it the way it it. thats my experience anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynoldson!! Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Its all going a bit tits-up, isnt it ? If MP is now being dragged into what is developing into a very public spat between NC and the Liebherrs, both sides must be fairly deeply entrenched. This is going to take ages and seriously f**k up next season. Serious risk of relegation next season. :D:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suntouched Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 must have been prompted by NC to say something, which shows NC's desperation His totalitarian authority is being threatened and he's throwing his toys out of the pram. Time to go. Looking forward to seeing you sail away on your yacht (paid for by the club/Liebherrs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Don't worry, NC's been on the blower to Micky Fialka and apparently he's interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Its all going a bit tits-up, isnt it ? If MP is now being dragged into what is developing into a very public spat between NC and the Liebherrs, both sides must be fairly deeply entrenched. This is going to take ages and seriously f**k up next season. Serious risk of relegation next season. You really need to learn not to make such big knee-jerk statements. As far as we know nothing has gone "tits-up". we just know that Cortese's contract hasn't been sorted yet and that MP wants him to stay. It all sounds pretty normal to me and there's a strong chance they'll come to an agreement on his contract. Just hold your fire a bit before you make such enormous statements. It could easily be business as normal pretty soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Well i am a bit more sanguine about all of this. Its all leaky stuff in the media. Known egos who want what they want. Rumours feed rumours, plus its all a bit of fun. The club is more than one person, whoever it is (apart perhaps from MLT from time to time). If MP would leave if NC goes then fine, bye bye, if that is your whole motivation for the job. Equally if NC is off because of a power struggle, then fine, i am sure there are plenty of ggod replacements. maybe not as good, but if they are not egocentric then that is a plus that doesn't seem to have been considered. In which case, in the round, maybe we are better off? What i would like is stability, and that means sane rational people running the place. It is NOT an impossible job: the fact that a fair number of basket cases are running football clubs just proves that. You need a chariman.board/senior management structure that can run things in a business-like way, a football manager/director/coaches etc who know their business, and a good squad of motivated players. The whole is bigger than every individual part. So get on with the job. If NC is posturing then get a grip. If the trust are pulling out then get on with it. If MP is spitting the dummy then go and get NA back. Or maybe they just like it the way it it. thats my experience anyway. This.............MP has just landed a Prem job at a young age and with limited success/experience. If he doesn't wanna stay then so be it move on. Same with NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Its all going a bit tits-up, isnt it ? If MP is now being dragged into what is developing into a very public spat between NC and the Liebherrs, both sides must be fairly deeply entrenched. This is going to take ages and seriously f**k up next season. Serious risk of relegation next season. I'd say we're pretty much down already. It's even more certain than when we were losing 1-0 to Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Pinocchio really is a media muppet!! why say anything.......... concentrate on the team and speaking English you fool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Those of you trying to pass all this off as part of the contract negotiations for NC really dont get it. It looks to all intents-and-purposes like NC has taken this public, an impression made even more strong by MPs untimely and unhelpful intervention. The discussions should have been kept confidential. IF NC has caused this to leak to get some leverage for whatever reason, he is likely to find the Liebherrs dig their heels in and be even more insistent upon change. This is not looking goood... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 You really need to learn not to make such big knee-jerk statements. As far as we know nothing has gone "tits-up". we just know that Cortese's contract hasn't been sorted yet and that MP wants him to stay. It all sounds pretty normal to me and there's a strong chance they'll come to an agreement on his contract. Just hold your fire a bit before you make such enormous statements. It could easily be business as normal pretty soon. My thoughts exactly. A lot of game playing going on here. The real question is whether the Liebherrs feel qualified to replace Nicola Cortese. He's a known quantity that has proven he can run a football club and increase the value of their assets. They will be relying on a lot of external advice to make any appointment, with no guarantees that any incoming chairman would improve the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Those of you trying to pass all this off as part of the contract negotiations for NC really dont get it. It looks to all intents-and-purposes like NC has taken this public, an impression made even more strong by MPs untimely and unhelpful intervention. The discussions should have been kept confidential. IF NC has caused this to leak to get some leverage for whatever reason, he is likely to find the Liebherrs dig their heels in and be even more insistent upon change. This is not looking goood... And that's a fair point and possible reaction too. No-one knows. The public thing is almost unprecedented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 My thoughts exactly. A lot of game playing going on here. The real question is whether the Liebherrs feel qualified to replace Nicola Cortese. He's a known quantity that has proven he can run a football club and increase the value of their assets. They will be relying on a lot of external advice to make any appointment, with no guarantees that any incoming chairman would improve the situation. If NC has taken this public, he will have lost a lot of trust and respect from what is a very private family, and the working relationship is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made in Southampton Posted 16 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 16 May, 2013 I've just been going through the tweets from the official saints twitter feed its all a bit confusing really. There are statements made from MP in the stoke press conference that they want new signings in by 1st July but then he finished by saying that he'll leave if NC quits. Two very different extremes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 I've just been going through the tweets from the official saints twitter feed its all a bit confusing really. There are statements made from MP in the stoke press conference that they want new signings in by 1st July but then he finished by saying that he'll leave if NC quits. Two very different extremes. For me the management and financial uncertainties make any imminent arrivals seem unlikely, if not impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downthe36 Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 For me the management and financial uncertainties make any imminent arrivals seem unlikely, if not impossible. Alpine go and have a lie down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Alpine go and have a lie down. Address the point, FFS. Would you go to a club not knowing who is running it or coaching you in a few weeks time ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Just a thought: where would NC go? Does he want a job in football and if so does he have something lined up? If not then he is pretty dangerous ground. Whatever, the more i think about it, the less concerned I am (or is that the beers - different time zone here). more concerned to see MS and LS playing for us next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Seems a strange thing for Pochettino to say, given that his contract won't depend on Cortese's involvement, but if they want to play hardball with the Liebherrs, that's up to them. Always nice when the club's a pawn in a game of business politics. Sky Sports News is already getting boring with the lack of matches, this will at least give them something interesting to discuss other than Rooney and John Terry's Shinpads. At this point, you'd have to say continuity would be better than needing to find a new manager and Chairman and Cortese's on-pitch record has been good to this point, I just hope they can find a compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 My take on it is that Cortese has promised Tino the backing and has the vision to take Saints to regular European football, and Tino's bought into that (ie. the expected signings are part of that) Cortese leaving would throw those promises and vision out of the window, so Tino wouldn't be part of a vision any more. However, by publicly saying that, it sounded to me as if he was just answering the question as given, but wasn't expecting it to actually come to him leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vershinin Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 NC said himself the other night that he wasn't leaving- we have nothing to worry about. Looking forward to winning on Sunday and finishing 11th to cap a great season. UTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Address the point, FFS. Would you go to a club not knowing who is running it or coaching you in a few weeks time ? The whole thing is likely to be resolved one way or another before too long. It's not as if we need to sign players in the next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Just a thought: where would NC go? Does he want a job in football and if so does he have something lined up? If not then he is pretty dangerous ground. Whatever, the more i think about it, the less concerned I am (or is that the beers - different time zone here). more concerned to see MS and LS playing for us next season. I don't doubt Cortese would be in demand, he's got a bit of a higher profile than most Swiss bankers at the moment though. Don't you think this might all have a significant effect on our ability to retain said players though ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Where's everyone who said NC can just be replaced, like any other CEO? ''It won't affect the club in anyway'' Of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Address the point, FFS. Would you go to a club not knowing who is running it or coaching you in a few weeks time ? Oh honestly, none of us, including you, actually know whats going on between Cortese and the Liebherr trust. Im not suggesting head in the sand and that we should ignore it but any chance for you to predict doom and misery just so on the off chance you'r right you can be a smug tw*t about it. Honestly do bore off ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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