KelvinsRightGlove Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 According to our old mate Tancredi Palmeri on twitter Tancredi Palmeri @tancredipalmeri now JUST IN: QPR's Loic Remy arrested on suspicion of rape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 I suspect "only saleable asset getting caught up in potential off-field scandal" would have been pretty high on any "what else could possibly go wrong?" list drawn up by QPR this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 I suspect "only saleable asset getting caught up in potential off-field scandal" would have been pretty high on any "what else could possibly go wrong?" list drawn up by QPR this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 I suspect "only saleable asset getting caught up in potential off-field scandal" would have been pretty high on any "what else could possibly go wrong?" list drawn up by QPR this year That's probably a really long list... I don't think we have any idea just how long. There seem to be no limits to QPR's capacity for f*ckwittery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/qpr-striker-loc-rmy-held-on-suspicion-of-rape-8617137.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Nothing surprises me with footballers these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 15 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Talking of shamblesville, Barton wants to be allowed to leave on a free, having had the majority of his wages paid by QPR whilst out on loan this season. They really are a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Talking of shamblesville, Barton wants to be allowed to leave on a free, having had the majority of his wages paid by QPR whilst out on loan this season. They really are a joke. Anyone who pays Joey Barton upwards of 50k a week deserve to go bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Can we remove the "allegedly" from the title, he's definitely been arrested for rape...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 No, he's been arrested on SUSPICION of rape. Fundamental difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Talking of shamblesville, Barton wants to be allowed to leave on a free, having had the majority of his wages paid by QPR whilst out on loan this season. They really are a joke. I'd be pretty keen to stop paying him asap, so it's not that daft an idea. Just make sure he agrees to the termination of his contract before he sorts out a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 No, he's been arrested on SUSPICION of rape. Fundamental difference. There's nothing alleged about the fact he's been arrested, or the fact that the crime is rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 15 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Anyone who pays Joey Barton upwards of 50k a week deserve to go bust. Yup I'd be pretty keen to stop paying him asap, so it's not that daft an idea. Just make sure he agrees to the termination of his contract before he sorts out a move. Yeah, I don't disagree. But just shows how shambolically run that mob are. And to think people moan about how we are run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Rosie has gone into hiding, she aint gonna be blamed for this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbattigger Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 There's nothing alleged about the fact he's been arrested, or the fact that the crime is rape. There is also the possibility of innocence hence being arrested ON SUSPICION and not FOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 The9 is being facetious ( sp?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 I'm always dubious when a rape charge comes out against someone very rich and very famous for two reasons. 1: They generally don't need any help with the ladies and 2: There have been so many cases of chancers looking for an out of court payoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 I'm always dubious when a rape charge comes out against someone very rich and very famous for two reasons. 1: They generally don't need any help with the ladies and 2: There have been so many cases of chancers looking for an out of court payoff. Rape is rarely about the sex. Normally it's about control and power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Rape is rarely about the sex. Normally it's about control and power. That is.... A very good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 What always concerns me is when there are, as in this case, more than 1 person implicated. 3 lads, one girl, doesn't sound like your average one night stand (not for most people anyway), and automatically makes me wonder about what was intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 birds at work was discussing what is worse: waking up to find you've been sex-raped or waking up to find someone shaved ur head. Every one of them said they'd sooner get raped. edit - technically does this counts as consents yo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 That is.... A very good point One of your points was that they generally don't need any help with the ladies. I doubt he was doing it because he had difficulty getting women if this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 What always concerns me is when there are, as in this case, more than 1 person implicated. 3 lads, one girl, doesn't sound like your average one night stand (not for most people anyway), and automatically makes me wonder about what was intended. Bisexual gangbang? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 . Too much money too young with a lot of adulation makes them believe they are above the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 birds at work was discussing what is worse: waking up to find you've been sex-raped or waking up to find someone shaved ur head. Every one of them said they'd sooner get raped. edit - technically does this counts as consents yo? I suppose it is the quickest way to get their names in the papers, and then sell a story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 I wonder have they taken his passport. If he is charged it would make a transfer difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Nick Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 If the police or another agency is investigating a person or the person is under arrest, this makes them a crime suspect. Media organisations, though, must be careful not to publish the identity (name or another detail identifying him/her) of a suspect at this stage, if they have been able to discover such information. This is because if the police investigation does not lead to a criminal prosecution then the suspect would be able to sue the organisation for libel. This remains the case for reports or broadcasts which make it very clear that no prosecution has yet taken place (and thus the suspect could still be completely innocent). This is because such an, albeit factually correct report, creates an inference that the person might be guilty and so is defamatory to that suspect. Such an inference may turn out to be unfounded and the media organisation may be unable to defend it in a subsequent libel case. http://www.inbrief.co.uk/media-law/media-identification-of-suspects.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 @MarioBaloltelli: Loic Remy, Ched Evans and Marlon King are in a car, who's driving? The Police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 http://www.inbrief.co.uk/media-law/media-identification-of-suspects.htm Patently untrue. Publishing (only) the fact that someone has been arrested for an offence can never be defamatory, provided it is true of course. The fact that it creates an inference of guilt *in the mind of the public*, as can be seen by the rest of this thread, is an irrelevance, as this inference is driven by a lack of understanding of key terms on the part of the reader, rather than any intent to deceive on the part of the author (as below). That is why attempts to confer rights of anonymity upon arrested or even charged people prior to conviction, which generally flare up whenever there's a high profile false accusation case, end up withering on the vine. Think about it. Every single time there is a public interest case (because of the nature of the crime, the identity of the victim, or the identity of the suspect), the major news organisations invariably report an arrest. How many times are they subsequently sued for libel if the person isn't charged? Almost never. The only one I can think of offhand would be the landlord in the Jo Yeates murder - and even then it was because one particular tabloid rag blatantly overstepped the mark and all but said that he had actually done it. All the other media outlets reporting the same arrest (and the extended detention), but in a more responsible manner, were not actionable. No, he's been arrested on SUSPICION of rape. Fundamental difference. You are drawing a distinction that does not exist. Everyone who is arrested is *suspected* of committing an offence, because proof occurs in court at conviction, not before. So saying that person x has been arrested for offence y is perfectly accurate (and exactly what they are told at the time of arrest), because the purpose of arrest is to further an investigation in order to prove or disprove involvement in an offence. There is a big difference between "Loic Remy has been arrested for rape" (fine) and "Loic Remy has been arrested because he raped someone" (clearly not fine - although not actionable in this instance!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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