shurlock Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Looks like i was right then and the court room and public spats are not as irrelevant as some would believe. I heard the family is worried about Cortese's erratic team selections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 @kristemple: RT @willcope: My understanding is that the Liebherr children/estate have NEVER had the same belief in Cortese that their father did #saints. Son-he-never-had rubs the daughter wrong way shocker.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 This is really a tough situation. We dont know the level of acrimony between Cortese and the Liebherr estate, and whether it can be resolved. Hopefully. I wrote on the other thread if I had to choose between NC with other funding and the Liebherrs, I would side with NC, but there is actually something nice about the aura of benevolence around the Liebherr familys ownership that I am sure we wont have with some pushy Yank, vulgar Russian or oil-saturated sheik. I really hope they find a way forwards together.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 @kristemple: RT @willcope: My understanding is that the Liebherr children/estate have NEVER had the same belief in Cortese that their father did #saints. Eh? But we were told they had a great relationship and that people who were told this had no proof and were talking rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 At least this thread has solved the "what shall we talk about now we can't worry about relegation" issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 I'm told the final straw was the decision to let Tommy Forecast go. The Liebherr's are worried that letting such a decorated player go (3 promotions in as many years) shows our club in a really negative way and may harm our chances of bringing in top class talent this summer. They hold NC directly responsible for this, as he made the final decision to let Tommy go, and want more say in the decision making following this high profile blunder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 At least this thread has solved the "what shall we talk about now we can't worry about relegation" issue. Yeah, heaven forbid we have a peaceful uneventful summer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Eh? But we were told they had a great relationship and that people who were told this had no proof and were talking rubbish. Who said they had a great relationship? Nobody has even tried to speculate on the ins-and-outs of something as intensely private. Even for the mboard, some things are pretty much off limits. Stop making s.h.i.t up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Eh? But we were told they had a great relationship and that people who were told this had no proof and were talking rubbish. Sorry for asking, but who is this Willcope?? Found his twitter but doesn´t say anything at all.....dont know the guy, therefore asking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Sorry for asking, but who is this Willcope?? Found his twitter but doesn´t say anything at all.....dont know the guy, therefore asking... He used to work on the Saint radio in the Lowe days. It is funny all these journalists "understanding" things now that the BBC/Times have reported stuff but yesterday they probably "understood" nothing. I will trust the BBC/Times source more than a twobob journalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 He used to work on the Saint radio in the Lowe days. it is funny all these journalists "understanding" things now that the BBC/Times have reported stuff but yesterday they probably "understood" nothing. Was he the one that stormed off in a huff after Gordon Watson told him he ddn't know what he was on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 I'm told the final straw was the decision to let Tommy Forecast go. The Liebherr's are worried that letting such a decorated player go (3 promotions in as many years) shows our club in a really negative way and may harm our chances of bringing in top class talent this summer. They hold NC directly responsible for this' date=' as he made the final decision to let Tommy go, and want more say in the decision making following this high profile blunder.[/quote'] That quite brilliant gag, has already been done im afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 I think we need to adapt his song for Sunday: Cortese whooooaa, Cortese whooooooaaa, his payoff will be large, if he doesn't stay in charge.... That'll warn them Liebherrs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 He used to work on the Saint radio in the Lowe days. It is funny all these journalists "understanding" things now that the BBC/Times have reported stuff but yesterday they probably "understood" nothing. I will trust the BBC/Times source more than a twobob journalist. Thnx. Found it odd that his words would proof anything......oh well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 At the end of the day, it is in the best interests of both parties to come to an arrangement. Do you really think that the Liebherrs would let Cortese walk after what he has done for them and the club? If he walks then they have to find someone with the same qualities and someone they trust. However, there is no guarantee that the new person will bring the same level of commitment and same results that Cortese has produced. The chances of the Liebherr's losing money if Cortese leaves is extremely high IMO. Same with Cortese, if he walks, he loses a very good pay packet (possibly only temporarily), his reputation goes down and has to move his kids and his family back to Switzerland / somewhere else and either find a new club / new job. As others have said, if it ain't broke, DON'T FIX IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Turkish, get on the Stoke build up thread and stop talking about the man in the suit upstairs. It doesn't matter who the chairman is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Who said they had a great relationship? Nobody has even tried to speculate on the ins-and-outs of something as intensely private. Even for the mboard, some things are pretty much off limits. Stop making s.h.i.t up Erm yeah they did. They used evidence of him being put in a position of power at one of their companies and photos of them in the directors box as proof. I was told they weren't fans of him last year by an ex player. Of course it was dismissed as rubbish on here at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Great, probably means that cringeworthy Cortese chant will be sung a few times on Sunday though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 IMO Cortese wouldn't struggle to find another job in football. Maybe not in England but his work will not have gone unnoticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 If we do lose Cortese, fingers crossed we can get Lowe back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Erm yeah they did. They used evidence of him being put in a position of power at one of their companies and photos of them in the directors box as proof. I was told they weren't fans of him last year by an ex player. Of course it was dismissed as rubbish on here at the time. Your famous "ex player" source! You'll have to forgive people if they don't believe everything you write on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJSaint Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 I don't think he will go. Markus had faith in him and he has no reason to leave. We have had a successful season as we prepare for our 2nd year back. The key was survival this year-done. Now lets build on that. Cortese knows he is a huge part of the club and personally I think it would be devastating if he left. We could end of with another Rupert Lowe and look where that got us last time. IN CORTESE WE HOPE AND TRUST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Your famous "ex player" source! You'll have to forgive people if they don't believe everything you write on here. I think you meant "anything"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Sorry for asking, but who is this Willcope?? Found his twitter but doesn´t say anything at all.....dont know the guy, therefore asking... Is he related to Mightmanage and Wontstruggle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Truth is we have absolutely no fu( king idea if there is any truth in this................ What i do know, is that Cortese is ruthless & an aggressive negotiator. Could be a negotiating strategy????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Your famous "ex player" source! You'll have to forgive people if they don't believe everything you write on here. I only know one player who I sit with in corporate on occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Cope reckons "any half decent CEO could match NC". Hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Didn't MLT allude to something like this happening a few months ago? I find it hard to believe this story has been leaked, obviously from the top, something very rare to come out of the club these days. Going to be an interesting few weeks now with the speculation running riot, something MP was quoted in one of the paper yesterday could also have been easily misconstrued, something like (from memory) my job is done now we are safe. In the same article he also said that what NA done before him is not his business (not exact quote) but suggested that all was not well. Is he a short term or long term appointment, certainly the political landscape has changed now we are safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Alan Nixon Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko Protected account 10m @markreeves999 There's a blame game going on right now. Heard NC was shaking things up last week. Maybe somebody asking about him too Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko Protected account 3m @gregvul @markreeves999 Blame game on results and lack of improvement since boss change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 I see the usual suspects are getting a bit touchy. Methinks these are the ones with egg on their faces regarding this issue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 I only know one player who I sit with in corporate on occasion. Its funny because players always say they don't know what goes on in the boardroom etc but ex players seem to know everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Its funny because players always say they don't know what goes on in the boardroom etc but ex players seem to know everything. He has spoken to a member of the Liebherr family and knows people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Cope reckons "any half decent CEO could match NC". Hmmm. Decent Being the word. What would you think if we got the chairman of Everton for example? Or Swansea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Will Cope @willcope It's the AMAZING people at #saintsfc that make the club a success. Any half decent CEO could match NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Cope reckons "any half decent CEO could match NC". Hmmm. Sounds like he's got something to be bitter about tbh. Will Cope @willcope It's the AMAZING people at #saintsfc that make the club a success. Any half decent CEO could match NC The AMAZING people...who were for the most part hired by Cortese. F*cking halfwit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so22saint Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Hoddle for chairman Dalek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 He has spoken to a member of the Liebherr family and knows people. We all know people Hypo. I'm sure you even know a few people in real life as well. Which people does this ex player know and how would an ex Southampton player have access to a member of the Liebherr family who would be happy to divulge this information? Particularly if said ex player goes off and tells people he sits next to in corporate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Decent Being the word. What would you think if we got the chairman of Everton for example? Or Swansea? Adam Blackmore from Solent reckons if NC left the "replacement would have to be a high calibre operator" and I agree - certainly someone better than decent, otherwise its a massive backwards step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Adam Blackmore from Solent reckons if NC left the "replacement would have to be a high calibre operator" and I agree - certainly someone better than decent, otherwise its a massive backwards step. What's Simon Jordan up to these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Decent Being the word. What would you think if we got the chairman of Everton for example? Or Swansea? There is no way in hell Bill Kenwright will come here Jesus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Don't be surprised to see les reed possibly depart. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 There is no way in hell Bill Kenwright will come here Jesus... It was an example of the type of proven and decent leader of a club that we could possibly go for if Cortese were to leave. Not for a moment did I suggest that we would attract Bill Kenwright. Jesus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 whats Risdale upto these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 It was an example of the type of proven and decent leader of a club that we could possibly go for if Cortese were to leave. Not for a moment did I suggest that we would attract Bill Kenwright. Jesus... Chairmen do not transfer between clubs like players, or even managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 We all know people Hypo. I'm sure you even know a few people in real life as well. He has a working relationship with many people who work at the club. He knows others socially and he is at the club on a weekly basis. Which people does this ex player know and how would an ex Southampton player have access to a member of the Liebherr family who would be happy to divulge this information? Particularly if said ex player goes off and tells people he sits next to in corporate? Because believe it or not members of the Liebherr family have attended social functions at the club and have been in boxes when the ex player has been in attendance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 i read somewhere Bill Kenwright linked with the job. CHDAJFU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 It was an example of the type of proven and decent leader of a club that we could possibly go for if Cortese were to leave. He is a major shareholder at Everton, you don't transfer chairman like you do players or managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Chairmen do not transfer between clubs like players, or even managers. I wasn't suggesting we would poach another teams chairman. I was using those as examples of successful chairman who are currently in football. I didn't think it was difficult to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 He is a major shareholder at Everton, you don't transfer chairman like you do players or managers. :facepalm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 What about that Mk Dons owner. HCDAJFU. Funny hair but knows how to run a club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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