Dig Dig Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 :toppa: You'll get shot down like JFK for this but I like it and agree. It's a good point for sure but the only person who would shoot that point of view down is probably MLG with some stat about Chelsea in the 90's or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 MP saying he will quit too if NC goes. Fingers crossed they'll both be at SMS for the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Alex Goring Crook @alex_crook Mauricio Pochettino has told us this morning he will quit #saintsfc if Nicola Cortese retires as chairman Pochettino said: "I would not continue if Nicola Cortese was not here. It would not make any sense if I was at this club and he wasn’t." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Alex Goring Crook @alex_crook Mauricio Pochettino has told us this morning he will quit #saintsfc if Nicola Cortese retires as chairman Pochettino said: "I would not continue if Nicola Cortese was not here. It would not make any sense if I was at this club and he wasn’t." Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 (edited) Surely now people see that everything we do revolves around NC... Players would be off too, their loyalty is to NC. The immediate future of the club would drastically change if NC goes and would probably lead to relegation as major upheavals tend to in the Prem. Edited 16 May, 2013 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Surely now people see that everything we do revolves around NC... You can't say things like this on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 @solentsport: Mauricio Pochettino says he can't see himself staying at #saintsfc if chairman Nicola Cortese leaves the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 what a kiss-ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 That's a shame. Shows its just a job to him. He's working for the man who appointed him, nothing more. Hasn't fallen in love with the club I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 talkSPORT @talkSPORT1m Breaking: Southampton rocked as manager Mauricio Pochettino reveals he could quit http://bit.ly/13yAGmL SunSport Now @SunSportNow2m Southampton boss Mauricio Pochettino says he will follow executive chairman Nicola Cortese out of the club if he decides to leave. SkySportsNewsRadio @SSNRadio10s Mauricio Pochettino says he'll leave @SouthamptonFC if the chairman goes. Hear him on http://bit.ly/ioqUOy #Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 That's a shame. Shows its just a job to him. He's working for the man who appointed him, nothing more. Hasn't fallen in love with the club I guess. he works for the "project sportif" that Cortese sold to him not for a few results. For many involved in football the future is often as important as the present. Ancelotti is considering his future at PSG because he says the project is more important than this season's results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 That's a shame. Shows its just a job to him. He's working for the man who appointed him, nothing more. Hasn't fallen in love with the club I guess. Did you really expect anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 That's a shame. Shows its just a job to him. He's working for the man who appointed him, nothing more. Hasn't fallen in love with the club I guess. It shows that contrary to popular belief, the staff (players and management) love working for Nicola, his vision and ambition and their loyalties are to him, not the Liebherr family. We would fall apart without NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 That's a shame. Shows its just a job to him. He's working for the man who appointed him, nothing more. Hasn't fallen in love with the club I guess. He's an Argie not one of us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Indeed. It's another bargaining chip for Cortese. I'm all for it btw but it's not very subtle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Some players will probably want to leave as well. Everyone who has signed long term contracts has spoken about Corteses ambitions for the future as a main reason for their motivation to stay. Some people on here really seem to underestimate his influence and importance to this club, not to mention his popularity with the staff and players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Purely based on the fact that mayuka hasn't delivered, that forren hasn't featured and that IMO gaston has flattered to deceive. My comment that it was 20m wasted was a bit flippant. 20m that probably could have been better spent would be more accurate. Either way, that transfer business looks pretty poor based on what I've seen so far. Exactly. They aren't (yet) a waste of money, but they were the wrong purchases given that the team needed strengthening for this season, not some point in the future. We were in danger of going straight back down again and needed players who would make an immediate contribution. I can imagine the bloodlust on here calling for heads to roll if results just one or two tight results had gone another way and we'd been relegated. The irony is that the cheaper buys - Lambert, Boruc, Davis, Clyne have made the most contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 That's a shame. Shows its just a job to him. He's working for the man who appointed him, nothing more. Hasn't fallen in love with the club I guess. exactly he can f*.ck off then and follow Nicola around clearly he's not here because managing saints means anything to him. just working for a rich banker who's recruited him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 It shows that contrary to popular belief, the staff (players and management) love working for Nicola, his vision and ambition and their loyalties are to him, not the Liebherr family. We would fall apart without NC. good propaganda mush but Clotese is NOT the club , if players want to be loyal to him and not the club / fans then fine , see you later. the club will not end with cortese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 exactly he can f*.ck off then and follow Nicola around clearly he's not here because managing saints means anything to him. just working for a rich banker who's recruited him Name one manager in the world that would come here only because managing us would mean anything to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 good propaganda mush but Clotese is NOT the club , if players want to be loyal to him and not the club / fans then fine , see you later. the club will not end with cortese End of the day, the players and management are there because of Cortese: thats a fact. And calling him Clotese just makes you look bitter about something. Car park tax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 good propaganda mush but Clotese is NOT the club , if players want to be loyal to him and not the club / fans then fine , see you later. the club will not end with cortese There is nothing like club loyalty. Players wants success and ambitions. Cortese is a major factor for keeping our best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Name one manager in the world that would come here only because managing us would mean anything to him. You think most managers choose to come to a club because they adore the chairman rather than its a good club with good players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 exactly he can f*.ck off then and follow Nicola around clearly he's not here because managing saints means anything to him. just working for a rich banker who's recruited him That's a really silly thing to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 You think most managers choose to come to a club because they adore the chairman rather than its a good club with good players? MP only came to Saints because of Cortese and his vision for the club - 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Exactly. They aren't (yet) a waste of money, but they were the wrong purchases given that the team needed strengthening for this season, not some point in the future. We were in danger of going straight back down again and needed players who would make an immediate contribution. I can imagine the bloodlust on here calling for heads to roll if results just one or two tight results had gone another way and we'd been relegated. The irony is that the cheaper buys - Lambert, Boruc, Davis, Clyne have made the most contribution. "Somehow" you forgot JRod.....but hey, dont let the truth stand in the way of your arguement.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 MP only came to Saints because of Cortese and his vision for the club - 100%. Maybe so, but thats very different to what Tores claimed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 (edited) I didn't forget him. Given the £7m price tag he's been neither a great nor bad purchase for this season. Long term I think he'll be a star, but we can include him if you like. '£27m spent on four players, none of whom are a regular starter'. Is that better? Edited 16 May, 2013 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 I see thick Tim is continuing to have a mare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 good propaganda mush but Clotese is NOT the club , if players want to be loyal to him and not the club / fans then fine , see you later. the club will not end with cortese Why dont you really say what you want? You would rather have the club on decline and play in league two, fans owning the club, dont be able/allowed to buy players.... Well you know what, you can get that down the road, off you go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 You think most managers choose to come to a club because they adore the chairman rather than its a good club with good players? I think most sensible managers goes to clubs where the chairman has an ambition and plan for how the club can grow in the future. Good players goes hand in hand with that. We haven't had one manager in my lifetime who has come here because Saints "meant something to him". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 I think most sensible managers goes to clubs where the chairman has an ambition and plan for how the club can grow in the future. Good players goes hand in hand with that. We haven't had one manager in my lifetime who has come here because Saints "meant something to him". Okay fair enough, I agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 If only we had a fan on the board to tell NC and MP how much they mean to us and make them stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Maybe so, but thats very different to what Tores claimed. What I meant to express was that I don't think mangers take jobs because they have personal feelings for the club, and fans shouldn't expect them to stay because of it either. It's a professional relationship and thats that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 I think most sensible managers goes to clubs where the chairman has an ambition and plan for how the club can grow in the future. Good players goes hand in hand with that. We haven't had one manager in my lifetime who has come here because Saints "meant something to him". Alan Ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Name one manager in the world that would come here only because managing us would mean anything to him. I'd expect plenty of managers would, those who know and respect the club's history and would feel proud to be employed by the football club. Regardless, it's a weird old turn out that we've got our Chairman saying "Oh, I'm going to leave if this happens' and our First Team Manager saying "Oh and I'll leave if that happens', can't imagine that being acceptable at most clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Alan Ball. Do you know ToreSF´s age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 I think most sensible managers goes to clubs where the chairman has an ambition and plan for how the club can grow in the future. Good players goes hand in hand with that. We haven't had one manager in my lifetime who has come here because Saints "meant something to him". Dave Merrington? Alan Ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 cortese is an EMPLOYEE on a contract. if he leaves there is nothing to say he can't be replaced. if Pochettino wants to show loyalty to cortese and not the club then so be it. if you join a company then the boss you like leaves you at least wait to find out who your new one is going to be before having a strop and saying "wait for me Nicky I'm coming with you" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Alan Ball. Before my time. Started supporting Saints in 97. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Do you know ToreSF´s age? Nope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 cortese is an EMPLOYEE on a contract. if he leaves there is nothing to say he can't be replaced. if Pochettino wants to show loyalty to cortese and not the club then so be it. if you join a company then the boss you like leaves you at least wait to find out who your new one is going to be before having a strop and saying "wait for me Nicky I'm coming with you" People seem to forget this. It's not his club, hes doing a job and being paid handsomely for it. Do people seiously think the Liebherrs wont know anyone else who could do the job and do it well and ideally be a bit less of a c*nt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Why dont you really say what you want? You would rather have the club on decline and play in league two, fans owning the club, dont be able/allowed to buy players.... Well you know what, you can get that down the road, off you go! Who are you to say "off you go" to any of our fans, when you were embarrasing yourself with your lack of knowledge of Saints history yesterday. Why don't you support one your Swedish sides, off you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4929708/Mauricio-Pochettino-quit-threat-hits-Southampton.html Asked if he would be staying if Cortese left, the Argentinian said: "Of course not, because the person that has put his faith in me in this club and as a manager is Nicola Cortese."Nicola Cortese has basically been the reality at Southampton for the past four years. "Of course, the people that are in the club, that are part of the club, that are behind the scenes in the club were a little bit worried about what has been said. "Me on a personal sense, I would not understand a Southampton without Nicola being here." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Who are you to say "off you go" to any of our fans, when you were embarrasing yourself yesteday with your lack of knowledge of Saints history yesterday. Why don't you support one your Swedish sides, off you go. Odd isn't it that he's sitting there is Sweden telling people who go to matches to go and support another club. You couldn't make it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 Why dont you really say what you want? You would rather have the club on decline and play in league two, fans owning the club, dont be able/allowed to buy players.... Well you know what, you can get that down the road, off you go! I support the team home and away mate since the early 80s, did so before cortese and will do such afterwards , he's just an employee , he is NOT the club , he does.nt own the club. it is NOT his club (aka baby) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 I'd expect plenty of managers would, those who know and respect the club's history and would feel proud to be employed by the football club. Regardless, it's a weird old turn out that we've got our Chairman saying "Oh, I'm going to leave if this happens' and our First Team Manager saying "Oh and I'll leave if that happens', can't imagine that being acceptable at most clubs. He would save himself being hung out to dry by a new man in charge. Usually happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 That's a shame. Shows its just a job to him. He's working for the man who appointed him, nothing more. Hasn't fallen in love with the club I guess. My point above is that despite the truth, this is what most managers say, if they say anything at all. It's very unusual to say that your allegiance is with the chairman. It's almost as if it's a declaration of support for NC, which, of course, it is. It would be normal to praise your chairman at any other time but, with the current situation, it carries more meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 For NC to leave it will probably mean the intended investment is not there that he thought would be (change of mind?) MP was probably bought in thinking he would get certain amount of investment and probably thinks, I'm off before that does not happen and the new fella in charge sacks me anyway for his own man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 May, 2013 Share Posted 16 May, 2013 I'm leaning towards this being about Cortese trying to force the Liebherrs to sell (to whatever money man/men Cortese has lined up) rather than an attempt by Cortese to get the Liebherrs to commit to more spending. Just a hunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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