Dig Dig Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 I think roundly criticising all who voted no for whatever reason goes somewhat against the purpose of having an open public vote in the first place? Everyone who voted yes also has an agenda just a different one, besides, it's not like these polls mean anything. Another poster riddled with an agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Another poster riddled with an agenda. I voted yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 maybe the end of the beginning! Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 I voted yes I know, you said even the Yes people have an agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmusicdude Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 A few surpsing names amongst the "no" vote, I must say. One I could have predicted. He is the biggest attention-seeking front-bottom to frequent the site. We all know who I am talking about. We do .. but you Voted for NC to stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Originally Posted by Winston Churchill Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning. Is there a variation of Godwin's Law whereby any Internet forum thread, if running long enough, will inevitably end up including a quote from WSC ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 I think Cortese has realised that his talk of bigger stadiums and champions league football was overstating out ability and has realised it aint going to happen without hundreds of millions of pounds worth of investment. He knows that the amount of funding required is not there to see it through. He gets to walk away with his reputiation intact having established us as a premier league club having delivered early on his inital plan, without having to put up with whinging fans banging on about why we aren't signing the 3 players we need to secure 4th evey transfer window. whoever comes in to replace him wont acheive champions league football and he can always claim he would have had he stayed on and his replacement didn't do as good a job as he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 What he said ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 What he said x2 ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 We do .. but you Voted for NC to stay Very good, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 (edited) Southampton FC @SouthamptonFC PHOTO: Executive Chairman Nicola Cortese signs an autograph during last night's #SFCAwards2013 dinner. #saintsfc Dan Tiller @dantiller @SouthamptonFC Is that a Liebherr handing him a cleverly disguised contract? Edited 15 May, 2013 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Southampton FC @SouthamptonFC6m PHOTO: Executive Chairman Nicola Cortese signs an autograph during last night's #SFCAwards2013 dinner. #saintsfc Does he have a booster cushion on that seat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 What a sad state the game is coming to when chairmen are asked for autographs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 What a sad state the game is coming to when chairmen are asked for autographs... Thats true but can you rememebr when the inbred Island dwellers were getting autographs of Andrew Andronikou ha ha what a shower of bells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 What a sad state the game is coming to when chairmen are asked for autographs... Well, I do recall a former (much maligned) Chairman buying a round of beers for the lads in Chicago Rock with the London Saints after our last game at The Dell. Then stood around looking forlorn because it seemed nobody wanted his autograph, just the beer:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 I think roundly criticising all who voted no for whatever reason goes somewhat against the purpose of having an open public vote in the first place? Everyone who voted yes also has an agenda just a different one, besides, it's not like these polls mean anything. If we all have an Agenda, can't we just go straight to Any Other Business? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 edit: oh forget it yo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 If we all have an Agenda, can't we just go straight to Any Other Business? Ha ha I love those meetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Well, I do recall a former (much maligned) Chairman buying a round of beers for the lads in Chicago Rock with the London Saints after our last game at The Dell. Then stood around looking forlorn because it seemed nobody wanted his autograph, just the beer:) He was like that, Guy Askham. Nasty after a few beers too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Still not wanting to vote Turkish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Still not wanting to vote Turkish? i want him to stay. What i want or vote for wont make any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 i want him to stay. What i want or vote for wont make any difference. Statistically one vote now will not make any difference to the overwhelming result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Statistically one vote now will not make any difference to the overwhelming result. It wont effect if he stays or goes or not either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 It wont effect if he stays or goes or not either. True, but then if anyone had expected an online poll to have that effect..... More interesting to me is the support for the chairman from the fanbase. As you implied earlier, if he leaves now it will be while riding the crest of a wave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 True, but then if anyone had expected an online poll to have that effect..... More interesting to me is the support for the chairman from the fanbase. Why does it surprise you? it was always going to be an overwhelming majority that want him to stay. he's done a good job overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 It wont effect if he stays or goes or not either. It will make a difference the next you're 'shouted down' for having an anti-Nik Nak agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Why does it surprise you? it was always going to be an overwhelming majority that want him to stay. he's done a good job overall. I didn't say surprise. I said interesting. Just further proof that those who shout loudest at times do not necessarily represent the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 It will make a difference the next you're 'shouted down' for having an anti-Nik Nak agenda. Only the utter helmets on here think that as they are the ones who claim this if you critise him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 (edited) I didn't say surprise. I said interesting. Just further proof that those who shout loudest at times do not represent the majority. As i said on another thread a post of "hats off to Cortese, well done" on a thread full of gushing praise isn't going to attract any attention. A thread critisicing him for things done will do as as you can see on here the overwhelming are in support of him and will leap to defend him, which in turn will provoke reactions, so it's not a case of he who shouts loudest.. There seems to be a view on here that you aren't allowed to critise when deserved and if something he has done is questionable it's always going to be someone elses fault. Edited 15 May, 2013 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 As i said on another thread a post of "hats off to Cortese, well done" on a thread full of gushing praise isn't going to attract any attention. A thread critisicing him for things done will do as as you can see on here the overwhelming are in support of him, there seems to be a view on here that you aren't allowed to critise when deserved and if something he has done is questionable it's always going to be someone elses fault. No, I see what you are saying. But there have at times been posters on here who have been extremely vociferous in their opinions, stating to represent a majority (despite only being their own viewpoint/view of their particular clique) and being very aggressive towards those that disagree. You yourself have been very patronising towards other posters, including me (saying that Cortese must be my 'messiah...' once upon a time....) who have expressed a positive view of the chairman. You represent extreme viewpoints which you yourself often do not believe just to stir up debate on this forum.... if you want to do that it's fine, but it is essentially a form of trolling. Now there is a massive show of approval for the work that he is doing your opinion has seemingly mellowed. I wonder why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 No, I see what you are saying. But there have at times been posters on here who have been extremely vociferous in their opinions, stating to represent a majority (despite only being their own viewpoint/view of their particular clique) and being very aggressive towards those that disagree. You yourself have been very patronising towards other posters, including me (saying that Cortese must be my 'messiah...' once upon a time....) who have expressed a positive view of the chairman. You represent extreme viewpoints which you yourself often do not believe just to stir up debate on this forum.... if you want to do that it's fine, but it is essentially a form of trolling. Now there is a massive show of approval for the work that he is doing your opinion has seemingly mellowed. I wonder why. Utter nonsense Colin. I've said many times i'll praise him when he deserves it and cristise him when it's warranted. I've always been very consistent on this from day one. It does seem that all manner of excuses are made when anything negative comes to light and people cant bear to hear a bad word spoken about him, it is almost hero worship. i'll speak as i find and having had some inside information as to his behaviour and how he can be that is why you wont find me blindly defending him or making excuses for him like some do when there are negative stories about him. Sorry if that doesn't sit well with you and you consider it to be trolling but that's how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 I will be very surprised if he doesn't stay - but perhaps he might start being a bit more polite and courteous to people - unlikely but you never know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 He can be a right cu.nt to work for but produces results where it matters, on the pitch. Ideally I'd like him to be less of a cu.nt but to still produce results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 (edited) Utter nonsense Colin. I've said many times i'll praise him when he deserves it and cristise him when it's warranted. I've always been very consistent on this from day one. It does seem that all manner of excuses are made when anything negative comes to light and people cant bear to hear a bad word spoken about him, it is almost hero worship. i'll speak as i find and having had some inside information as to his behaviour and how he can be that is why you wont find me blindly defending him or making excuses for him like some do when there are negative stories about him. Sorry if that doesn't sit well with you and you consider it to be trolling but that's how it is. Fair enough, though there are times when we simply don't know what has happened -and there's a legitimate case for all sorts of interpretations, not just the mboard defending the indefensible and making itself look silly. You're right to take posters to task. But when things are ambiguous, very rarely do you give Nik Nak benefit of the doubt -and more importantly acknowledge the possibility that a rival interpretation might have some currency. Edited 15 May, 2013 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 (edited) Utter nonsense Colin. I've said many times i'll praise him when he deserves it and cristise him when it's warranted. I've always been very consistent on this from day one. It does seem that all manner of excuses are made when anything negative comes to light and people cant bear to hear a bad word spoken about him, it is almost hero worship. i'll speak as i find and having had some inside information as to his behaviour and how he can be that is why you wont find me blindly defending him or making excuses for him like some do when there are negative stories about him. Sorry if that doesn't sit well with you and you consider it to be trolling but that's how it is. Opinion isn't trolling. Your patronising and inconsistent demeanor is. Either way, getting off topic. Edited 15 May, 2013 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 edit: oh forget it yo ---Quote (Originally by trousers)--- ---End Quote--- this is why women shouldn't be allowed at footballs yo. Chairman's autograph FFS! tut tut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Utter nonsense Colin. I've said many times i'll praise him when he deserves it and cristise him when it's warranted. I've always been very consistent on this from day one. It does seem that all manner of excuses are made when anything negative comes to light and people cant bear to hear a bad word spoken about him, it is almost hero worship. i'll speak as i find and having had some inside information as to his behaviour and how he can be that is why you wont find me blindly defending him or making excuses for him like some do when there are negative stories about him. Sorry if that doesn't sit well with you and you consider it to be trolling but that's how it is. Lets be honest, this is just how the majority on the mongboard react to any and every situation. Im pretty much where you are FWIW, happy with what he has done but realise he could be less of a c*nt, the only difference being I am a bit more pro then you are (and I have had first hand exp of his ****ishness). The problem is there are a massively pro group of mongs who think that it was obvious we were CL bound with a 100k uber stadium and also a mega negative group that think that Cortese regularly rapes puppies of a wednesday night. In reality its more down the middle. If people actually tried to look at both sides it would be a lot simpler, a lot more reserved and more like real life. It would also be boring as **** though..... Long live mongboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 I'm too late to vote alas. But I would have voted NO. Corteses achievements above and beyond what any other CEO appointed by Marcus would have achieved are hugely over estimated. My advice to the Liebherr Trust (I'm sure they waiting to hear my advice), is ditch the expensive and egotistical Cortese and get another CEO in; and continue your involvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Ahh Docker, it does surprise me very much you would have voted no, considering you have been his staunchest ally and bathe in NC's positive vibes. Not seen you around since the last anti-NC thread... who would have thought lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 I'm too late to vote alas. But I would have voted NO. Corteses achievements above and beyond what any other CEO appointed by Marcus would have achieved are hugely over estimated. My advice to the Liebherr Trust (I'm sure they waiting to hear my advice), is ditch the expensive and egotistical Cortese and get another CEO in; and continue your involvement. I agree, any of us fans could have done the same job. Let's go back to a fan on the board, it's the only way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 I'm too late to vote alas. But I would have voted NO. Corteses achievements above and beyond what any other CEO appointed by Marcus would have achieved are hugely over estimated. My advice to the Liebherr Trust (I'm sure they waiting to hear my advice), is ditch the expensive and egotistical Cortese and get another CEO in; and continue your involvement. if it was that easy, how come QPR are going down? or cardiff have taken an age to go up, or leicester are just rubbish?? who are these other average people you comapre NC to? I see buctootim wont answer that either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 I agree, any of us fans could have done the same job. Let's go back to a fan on the board, it's the only way forward. Have we ever had a fan on the board? Like Cortese before he started at SFC, most fans have no experience of running a business so not a good idea. I would think the good people in Switzerland could come up with an experienced CEO to take us to the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Have we ever had a fan on the board? . you dont follow saints much, do you? if it was so easy to achieve what he has, why are there so many failures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 if it was that easy, how come QPR are going down? or cardiff have taken an age to go up, or leicester are just rubbish?? who are these other average people you comapre NC to? I see buctootim wont answer that either Shhh. This is a secret so don't tell everyone. Maybe QPR are going down because they didn't play as good football as everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 tut tut how did yo do that bob? I edit post then you come back 2 hours later with original datas! Is witchcrafts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Shhh. This is a secret so don't tell everyone. Maybe QPR are going down because they didn't play as good football as everyone else. why is that, who bought in hughes, redknapp, sanctioned signing Samba for £10m on £100k a week wages I dont even think you are a saints fan as you have no idea that we had a fan on the board a few years back. his name is Leon Crouch and that worked out brilliantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 why is that, who bought in hughes, redknapp, sanctioned signing Samba for £10m on £100k a week wages I dont even think you are a saints fan as you have no idea that we had a fan on the board a few years back. his name is Leon Crouch and that worked out brilliantly Whilst I agree with your basic point, Leon actually saved the club AND financed the current Ted Bates statue so I would say that his support did the club a hell of a lot of good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 if it was that easy, how come QPR are going down? or cardiff have taken an age to go up, or leicester are just rubbish?? who are these other average people you comapre NC to? I see buctootim wont answer that either Thats because its a vacuous dull question which you repeat ad nauseam. Heres how it would go - I list a number of Chairmen from various clubs who I think have done okay - some things well some things poorly, and then you pick one or two from the list and you argue the toss about the relative merits of somebody you know very little about and have never met. I'd rather be drowning puppies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Shhh. This is a secret so don't tell everyone. Maybe QPR are going down because they didn't play as good football as everyone else. And not because their owner/chairman had no clue what he was doing contributing to poor managerial decisions, players on huge wages who have no pride in playing for the club and came out on twitter after defeats claiming that he doesn't know what's wrong? Imagine if NC did that, you would have an absolute field day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Thats because its a vacuous dull question which you repeat ad nauseam. Heres how it would go - I list a number of Chairmen from various clubs who I think have done okay - some things well some things poorly, and then you pick one or two from the list and you argue the toss about the relative merits of somebody you know very little about and have never met. I'd rather be drowning puppies. ok just list some average chairman that NC has done no better given the circumstances not too much trouble surely. If people debate them, then you are free to ignore as for arguing the toss about someone I know very little about and never met......errr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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