patred44 Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 were you given permission to publish this list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 Nice article but you might want to change the Cortese/Liebherr takeover year from 2010 to 2009 (and if I was being really pedantic it's 'fazed' not 'phased') Whoops! Trying to give him even more credit than necessary. Thanks for pointing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 (edited) Has anyone else considered this may just be a PR stunt for Cortese to repair his public image with the fanbase. All the signs point to a specific reporter being given an exclusive quote by the man himself (unusual unless intended. Why would he want people talking about something so personal to him when normally he can't stand to make even the slightest press remark on bull ?) The actual wording of the quote can be interpreted as something serious or not very much at all. The one thing it guarantees is that all the saints fans who support him come out of the woodwork highlight his achievements, outweigh his shortcomings and forgive to a large extent the manner of what he did earlier in the year for fear of losing him. PR company tactic= you don't know what you've got 'til its gone. Why would he care? Public Relations. He has a PR company and a PR manager paid to make him and Saints Fc look good. Makes sense that the season is over from a risk point of view and he gives them a chance to try a tactic or two. All for the small price of this Ben Smith journo fella getting a few transfer or news exclusives over the next couple of months. Edited 14 May, 2013 by Mallagroth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 were you given permission to publish this list? it´s public, anyone can open it, just click the number for each option up right and you´ll open it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 Has anyone else considered this may just be a PR stunt for Cortese to repair his public image with the fanbase. All the signs point to a specific reporter being given an exclusive quote by the man himself (unusual unless intended. Why would he want people talking about something so personal to him when normally he can't stand to make even the slightest press remark on bull****) The actual wording of the quote can be interpreted as something serious or not very much at all. The one thing it guarantees is that all the saints fans who support him come out of the woodwork highlight his achievements, outweigh his shortcomings and forgive for what he did earlier in the year for fear of losing him. Pr company tactic= you don't know what you've got 'til its gone. Why would he care? Public Relations. He has a PR company and a PR manager paid to make him and Saints Fc look good. makes sense that the season is over and he gives them a chance to try a tactic or two. All for the small price of this Ben Smith journo fella getting a few transfer or news exclusives over the next couple of months. No wrong. His contracts up and they don't want to renew it. Simple. They want a new CEO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 Has anyone else considered this may just be a PR stunt for Cortese to repair his public image with the fanbase. All the signs point to a specific reporter being given an exclusive quote by the man himself (unusual unless intended. Why would he want people talking about something so personal to him when normally he can't stand to make even the slightest press remark on bull****) The actual wording of the quote can be interpreted as something serious or not very much at all. The one thing it guarantees is that all the saints fans who support him come out of the woodwork highlight his achievements, outweigh his shortcomings and forgive for what he did earlier in the year for fear of losing him. Pr company tactic= you don't know what you've got 'til its gone. Why would he care? Public Relations. He has a PR company and a PR manager paid to make him and Saints Fc look good. makes sense that the season is over and he gives them a chance to try a tactic or two. All for the small price of this Ben Smith journo fella getting a few transfer or news exclusives over the next couple of months. No chance. Based on the fact that we're approaching a key time for new signings, you're suggesting it is a PR tactic to leak information about instability at the club and issues with funding? You've got to be joking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 were you given permission to publish this list? What on earth are you talking about? Anyone can view it... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/poll.php?pollid=262&do=showresults Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 The talk of instability at the club and issues with funding has not come from Cortese or the original source. That is speculation. The other fact we do know is that all debating comes to an end before June and the transfer window opens. This is from Cortese mouth again. We are talking about it, whether it's fear and speculation or not. And from a long term damage point of view, it will mean nothing if Cortese turns round in two weeks and says the equivalent of dont' worry it's all sorted and in an even better way if he turns round and says dont worry its all fine and while you were all panicking I went and signed two players, am i your hero or what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 No wrong. His contracts up and they don't want to renew it. Simple. They want a new CEO. Please point me to a statement by the Leibherrs to this end. Many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 (edited) Only because "duncan" seems to fit an anti-Cortese niggle into a lot of his posts. It irritates me that some see "duncan" as some sort of in the know just because hes knocked a couple of hagiograhies together. Clearly hes just another of the left wing loon clique (ala Chorley) who would like to see the club in turmoil to see if they could benefit from it. I see, unlike me, manji you have failed to show your support for NC in the poll? I can only deduce that you are a closet left wing loon looking to see your club in turmoil? Edited 14 May, 2013 by Fitzhugh Fella sp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 Please point me to a statement by the Leibherrs to this end. Many thanks. Didn't realise they had to make a statement. Please tell me where it says otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 The talk of instability at the club and issues with funding has not come from Cortese or the original source. That is speculation. The other fact we do know is that all debating comes to an end before June and the transfer window opens. This is from Cortese mouth again. We are talking about it, whether it's fear and speculation or not. And from a long term damage point of view, it will mean nothing if Cortese turns round in two weeks and says the equivalent of dont' worry it's all sorted and in an even better way if he turns round and says dont worry its all fine and while you were all panicking I went and signed two players, am i your hero or what. No, the whole point of PR is about what reaction you will get by putting information out. By putting this out in the public, it has increased talk of instability around the club and possible lack of funding - the last thing you would want when negotiating buying top draw players that will be in demand elsewhere - which is what we're supposedly planning on doing over the next few weeks. You think Cortese would run that risk just so he might feel a bit of popularity from the fans? Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 What on earth are you talking about? Anyone can view it... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/poll.php?pollid=262&do=showresults i expect he was slightly disturbed to find a load of skates & mentalists on his side of fence. I can't decide which way to vote yo! I'm mostly in it for the lols and i can see lols on both sides. It's a dilema! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 Didn't realise they had to make a statement. Please tell me where it says otherwise? Well, you are stating it like it is a fact. Isn't it? Is it really just your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 No one can touch this site for speculation Couple of points - to those few who wish him gone, be careful what you wish for. the list of clubs with money who have NOT delivered on targets is far greater than those that have... Blackburn, Leicester, QPR, Man City even. For a variety of reasons, but usually because of internal compromise or poor strategy and implementation... Mr Cortese has more then delivered, most likely due to a singleminded determination , and I for one am happy to accept no one is perfect and it comes with a few idiosyncracies. As to emotional committment, there are a few that are stronger than wishing to deliver on your Friend's ambition. From takeover on -10 in L1 to prem survival in 4 seasons - not bad for a 'Swiss banker' Careful what we wish for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 Well, you are stating it like it is a fact. Isn't it? Is it really just your opinion? Okay. It is rumoured his contract is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 I see, unlike me, manji you have failed to show your support for NC in the poll? I can only deduce that you are a closet left wing loon looking to see your club in turmoil? Duncs, know we dont always agree, but always respected your opinion... how do you see it now, brinkmanship and resolution or a parting of the ways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 were you given permission to publish this list? Stand by your convictions man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 No chance. Based on the fact that we're approaching a key time for new signings, you're suggesting it is a PR tactic to leak information about instability at the club and issues with funding? You've got to be joking? The tactic would be to unite and create positivity after the 'event'. At the moment people are talking and are indeed talking of achievements and ambition and Saints potential. The talk of issues with funding and even the idea that the quote means Cortese wants to leave has not come from Cortese or the original journalist source. That is speculation. The other fact we do know is that all debating comes to an end before June and before the transfer window opens. This is from Cortese own mouth again. So this could be designed to be a two week little stunt which wouldn't have any serious lasting repercussions. again from a long term damage point of view, it will mean nothing if Cortese turns round in two weeks and says the equivalent of dont' worry it's all sorted and in an even better way if he turns round and says dont worry its all fine and while you were all panicking I went and signed two players, am i your hero or what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 The tactic would be to unite and create positivity after the 'event'. At the moment people are talking and are indeed talking of achievements and ambition and Saints potential. The talk of issues with funding and even the idea that the quote means Cortese wants to leave has not come from Cortese or the original journalist source. That is speculation. The other fact we do know is that all debating comes to an end before June and before the transfer window opens. This is from Cortese own mouth again. So this could be designed to be a two week little stunt which wouldn't have any serious lasting repercussions. again from a long term damage point of view, it will mean nothing if Cortese turns round in two weeks and says the equivalent of dont' worry it's all sorted and in an even better way if he turns round and says dont worry its all fine and while you were all panicking I went and signed two players, am i your hero or what. Nice idea but not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 were you given permission to publish this list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 were you given permission to publish the poll instructions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 The tactic would be to unite and create positivity after the 'event'. At the moment people are talking and are indeed talking of achievements and ambition and Saints potential. The talk of issues with funding and even the idea that the quote means Cortese wants to leave has not come from Cortese or the original journalist source. That is speculation. The other fact we do know is that all debating comes to an end before June and before the transfer window opens. This is from Cortese own mouth again. So this could be designed to be a two week little stunt which wouldn't have any serious lasting repercussions. again from a long term damage point of view, it will mean nothing if Cortese turns round in two weeks and says the equivalent of dont' worry it's all sorted and in an even better way if he turns round and says dont worry its all fine and while you were all panicking I went and signed two players, am i your hero or what. Only the bedwetters are panicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 Here's an idea, we should have "The 6% gang" - membership of which automatically entitles you to be added to everyone's ignore list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 The tactic would be to unite and create positivity after the 'event'. At the moment people are talking and are indeed talking of achievements and ambition and Saints potential. The talk of issues with funding and even the idea that the quote means Cortese wants to leave has not come from Cortese or the original journalist source. That is speculation. The other fact we do know is that all debating comes to an end before June and before the transfer window opens. This is from Cortese own mouth again. So this could be designed to be a two week little stunt which wouldn't have any serious lasting repercussions. again from a long term damage point of view, it will mean nothing if Cortese turns round in two weeks and says the equivalent of dont' worry it's all sorted and in an even better way if he turns round and says dont worry its all fine and while you were all panicking I went and signed two players, am i your hero or what. The transfer window starts in less than a week. We're already meant to be in contact with players and their agents. Why do we need a load of "feel good factor"? What do you think the Liebherrs would mae of Cortese leaking a completely mad eup story about them to gain a bit more fan support for himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 were you given permission to publish the poll instructions? Ah, no, but I'm glad people can see it as it's the first time I've tried to direct link to an image on my google drive, yo's.. And FWIW if AC leaves it won't be the end of the world.....unless we get Lampitt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 I do, and everyone on here knows my dislike for Cortese..but I find it distastfull that the list of voters was published. I have had a few not very nice message from elsewhere because of it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 No, the whole point of PR is about what reaction you will get by putting information out. By putting this out in the public, it has increased talk of instability around the club and possible lack of funding - the last thing you would want when negotiating buying top draw players that will be in demand elsewhere - which is what we're supposedly planning on doing over the next few weeks. You think Cortese would run that risk just so he might feel a bit of popularity from the fans? Ridiculous. Hey man it's just a hypothesis cool down. I'm just exploring it. The point of PR is to change public perceptions through manipulation of image, news, services and public statements. It's not about immediate reaction, it's about the end goal. When companies change logo's they don't do it to **** off the people who like the current one as their aim. There is a campaign of set time to achieve goal. Temporary endeavours such as controversial ad campaigns are even easier as they do no lasting harm and quickly get hidden once a new campaign comes out. However people will always remember and bring it up. Just like next time Cortese does something dubious we will all be slightly more worried about shouting him down in case talk of him leaving resurfaces. I think if players are going to be joining because of Cortese's influence on them, then what other people think of him is going to be very important to these signing players that are taking his word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 (edited) I do, and everyone on here knows my dislike for Cortese..but I find it distastfull that the list of voters was published. I have had a few not very nice message from elsewhere because of it.. "Published", what are you on about? It is freely available to anyone, the same as any poll on this forum! http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/poll.php?pollid=262&do=showresults If you don't like it known what way you voted, don't vote on SWF polls! Edited 14 May, 2013 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 I do, and everyone on here knows my dislike for Cortese..but I find it distastfull that the list of voters was published. I have had a few not very nice message from elsewhere because of it.. It clearly states that it is a public vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 I do, and everyone on here knows my dislike for Cortese..but I find it distastfull that the list of voters was published. I have had a few not very nice message from elsewhere because of it.. Dude you have an opinion, be proud of it, whether the majority agree or not. Ignore the messages, people who send messages of abuse usually don't have the capacity to think for themselves and formulate their own opinion, their own insecurity of this forces them to take what they percieve to be the most popular viewpoint and enforce it with over the top reactions so they aren't questioned to explore their views openly and reveal their ignorance. Kinda like kids at school who are taking the **** as a group and one guy tries to prove he's in with the cool kids and takes it too far. Besides the point of a forum is debate and sharing opinion... even if you're obviously wrong this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 Hey man it's just a hypothesis cool down. I'm just exploring it. The point of PR is to change public perceptions through manipulation of image, news, services and public statements. It's not about immediate reaction, it's about the end goal. When companies change logo's they don't do it to **** off the people who like the current one as their aim. There is a campaign of set time to achieve goal. Temporary endeavours such as controversial ad campaigns are even easier as they do no lasting harm and quickly get hidden once a new campaign comes out. However people will always remember and bring it up. Just like next time Cortese does something dubious we will all be slightly more worried about shouting him down in case talk of him leaving resurfaces. I think if players are going to be joining because of Cortese's influence on them, then what other people think of him is going to be very important to these signing players that are taking his word. Fair enough, you think Cortese has leaked a story about instability at the club and a lack of money to improve his popularity with the fans, despite him saying on numerous occasions that his personal popularity doesn't bother him. You also think that a very well respected BBC journalist and the Football Editor of The Times have lapped up this made up story and are happily reporting it. Anyway, keep on exploring your hypothesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo Naive Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 Has anyone else considered this may just be a PR stunt for Cortese to repair his public image with the fanbase. All the signs point to a specific reporter being given an exclusive quote by the man himself (unusual unless intended. Why would he want people talking about something so personal to him when normally he can't stand to make even the slightest press remark on bull ?) The actual wording of the quote can be interpreted as something serious or not very much at all. The one thing it guarantees is that all the saints fans who support him come out of the woodwork highlight his achievements, outweigh his shortcomings and forgive to a large extent the manner of what he did earlier in the year for fear of losing him. PR company tactic= you don't know what you've got 'til its gone. Why would he care? Public Relations. He has a PR company and a PR manager paid to make him and Saints Fc look good. Makes sense that the season is over from a risk point of view and he gives them a chance to try a tactic or two. All for the small price of this Ben Smith journo fella getting a few transfer or news exclusives over the next couple of months. Can somebody point me in the direction of this "exclusive quote". As far as I can see nobody has gone on the record from either side, which is why we've got 14 pages of speculation on this thread. FWIW I my gut feeling is that NC wants to spend big bucks in the July window and the Trust are trying to reign him in a bit. Hopefully they can agree a compromise before the end of June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 I do, and everyone on here knows my dislike for Cortese..but I find it distastfull that the list of voters was published. I have had a few not very nice message from elsewhere because of it.. You didnt see the bit at the top that said it was a public vote then ?! Besides, its your opinion stick with it, would you have voted differently if you'd actually been able to read ? Man up you tit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 Didn't realise they had to make a statement. Indeed. Anyone waiting for a statement from the Liebherrs would be spending their time more productively digging up Spitfires in Burma or explaining colour to a blind man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 You also think that a very well respected BBC journalist and the Football Editor of The Times have lapped up this made up story and are happily reporting it. The Football Editor of The Times lapped up a completely made-up story by a French blog site about a Qatari Super League and ran it as a major exclusive, so I wouldn't read too much into his endorsement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 You didnt see the bit at the top that said it was a public vote then ?! Besides, its your opinion stick with it, would you have voted differently if you'd actually been able to read ? Man up you tit Yes, it may be a public vote, but it could still be interpreted as an act of mailcious mobbing to re-print the votes in such an obvious manner. Its clear the message was "Look, here are the tw*ts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 Can somebody point me in the direction of this "exclusive quote". As far as I can see nobody has gone on the record from either side, which is why we've got 14 pages of speculation on this thread. FWIW I my gut feeling is that NC wants to spend big bucks in the July window and the Trust are trying to reign him in a bit. Hopefully they can agree a compromise before the end of June. THink it's a lot more than what just happens this summer - a lot of that could already be signed off. Its the plans/approach/funding for the next five to ten years that will need agreeing and that will never be easy to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 No wrong. His contracts up and they don't want to renew it. Simple. They want a new CEO. Okay. It is rumoured his contract is up. So, it's rumoured his contract is up = his contract is up and they don't want to renew it; they want a new CEO. Quite some leap there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 (edited) The Football Editor of The Times lapped up a completely made-up story by a French blog site about a Qatari Super League and ran it as a major exclusive, so I wouldn't read too much into his endorsement Yes I know he did, but if anything that's going to make them more likely than ever to make sure what they report is correct. Edited 14 May, 2013 by Sour Mash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 I think it will all go away In a few weeks, the new kits will be released and the usual lot will go mad about it The new home kit is a deviation from the norm. Have no idea about the away kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 I think it will all go away In a few weeks, the new kits will be released and the usual lot will go mad about it The new home kit is a deviation from the norm. Have no idea about the away kit That will make a pleasant change:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 I do, and everyone on here knows my dislike for Cortese..but I find it distastfull that the list of voters was published. I have had a few not very nice message from elsewhere because of it.. Pity. As ever its not wise to step outside the sheep like orthodoxy on here. People have a pretty simplistic view - the team has done well so the man in charge must be doing well. Cortese has some good attributes, chiefly a drive to succeed and an ambitious vision. He's not a great Executive Chairman / CEO though, his people management and customer relations skills are too poor for that. Yes of the course the team have done fantastically well the past few years. Good managers being given a playing and transfer budget three times the average in Lg1 and double the average in the championship helped a bit. Buying the best players in the division tends to give you an edge. The measure of a really good chairman is - can you get your club to over perform? Swansea, Norwich, Wigan and Cardiff are the real examples of that. Cortese would have achieved very little on an average Lg1 budget without the Liebherr's money and support. The Liebherrs however would have likely achieved just as much with any other CEO who is of average or better than average competence. I don't necessarily want him to go, but he definitely needs to be reined in by an older, people savvier influence on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 The transfer window starts in less than a week. We're already meant to be in contact with players and their agents. Well you can forget any successful conclusions as a result of the revelations of the last 24hrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 The new home kit is a deviation from the norm. Yeah, because we havent had had one of those in the last 12months, have we ? Oh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 Yes, it may be a public vote, but it could still be interpreted as an act of mailcious mobbing to re-print the votes in such an obvious manner. Its clear the message was "Look, here are the tw*ts" Either way, it was a public vote, you are posting your opinions on a public forum which means you either have to stand by what you say or not at all, especially if you actually want people to listen to your opinion in the future. Whether it was posted or not people woukd have had a look, there are a few names on that list that surprise me TBH but there we go. Unless I was on a wind up I wouldnt post anything on here that I wouldnt stand by, or be prepared to admit I was wrong about if something turned out that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 Man up you tit With one hand you giveth, with the other you taketh away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 Controversial Tim. The people on here won't like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 Duncs' date=' know we dont always agree, but always respected your opinion... how do you see it now, brinkmanship and resolution or a parting of the ways?[/quote'] Million dollar question Frank, but if it was just a financial decision the family would be mad not to let NC continue as he has proved he is more than capable of "looking after" their investment. But it is a game of stick and bust for them and they might feel it can't get much better than it currently is. ie time to cash in, if (big if) a buyer is out there? On the other hand if this disagreement is based on ethical matters it may be harder to resolve. I never truly understood why ML got involved, we were a good buy and sound investment but he did not need the money. As far as I am aware he had no real previous interest or involvement in football (I could be wrong here). But he and NC made a good team - he was probably a good guiding influence on the younger man which was sadly lost when he passed away. I always felt that to have been a bigger blow than we all thought at the time and am fairly sure were Marcus still alive this contretemps would have been nipped in the bud. I very much want Cortese to stay, if only for pure footballing reasons - he has ambition, proven ability to carry it out and he has become experienced in handling a football club. I wish, like many of us, some things were done differently but there is no doubt he has more than delivered in so many areas. I just hope this is resolved quickly because no one benefits from all this uncertainty. So brinkmanship and resolution for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 14 May, 2013 Share Posted 14 May, 2013 Fair enough, you think Cortese has leaked a story about instability at the club and a lack of money to improve his popularity with the fans, despite him saying on numerous occasions that his personal popularity doesn't bother him. You also think that a very well respected BBC journalist and the Football Editor of The Times have lapped up this made up story and are happily reporting it. Anyway, keep on exploring your hypothesis. lol, okay hands up, you win, I see your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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