Batman Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 My team (assuming everyone is fit) Boruc Clyne Shaw Fonte Hooiveld Morgan JWP Puncheon Davis Rodriguez Lambert subs - Davis, Forren, Yoshida, Mayuka, Lallana, Guly, Cork Forren to get at least 30 mins game time With the pressure now effectively off, I think we will see a good performance and a 3-1 win
Saint Garrett Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 For me.... Boruc; Clyne Fonte Forren Shaw; Morgan Cork; Puncheon JWP J-Rod; Lambert.
Dalek2003 Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 I think we are already on the beach, but a nasty shock is in store. Saints 0 Stoke 17 means we are crying into our ice creams.
RobM Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 I'd like to see Forren and Puncheon start. Forren because it's a chance for competitive football without risk or pressure, Puncheon because he looked so good today.
Dr Who? Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 I think we are already on the beach, but a nasty shock is in store. Saints 0 Stoke 17 means we are crying into our ice creams. Even if so, Wigan will go down with 35 or 38 points. Which means, yes you guessed it, we were safe on 39 points..... I know you really want Wigan to win there last 2 so you can say the opposite!
Dalek2003 Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Even if so, Wigan will go down with 35 or 38 points. Which means, yes you guessed it, we were safe on 39 points..... I know you really want Wigan to win there last 2 so you can say the opposite! Yes, I could be very smug.
Shroppie Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Three points will be very important. Not only for the league position and prize money but to make sure we don't finish the season with 6 games without a win.
Dr Who? Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Yes, I could be very smug. You still have very very small chance to be, and in a way, I would like to see Wigan stay up, and Sunderland go down!
trousers Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Boruc Clyne - Fonte - Forren - Shaw Cork Schneiderlin Puncheon Davis Lallana Rodriguez Subs: Davis, Hooiveld, Yoshida, JWP, Lambert, Mayuka, Guly Saints 3 Stoke 1 Final league position: 10th
SNSUN Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Strong team please, there's still quite a lot at stake. Boruc Clyne Yoshida Forren Shaw Morgan Cork JRod Davis Puncheon Rickie Forren to make his debut now we're safe. Should be interesting. A win would see us seriously fly up the table, based on looking at other teams' fixtures. Even a draw would see us perhaps jump a spot or two. Lose and there's a good chance of 16th place. 17th spot should be covered by Sunderland, Wigan or Villa, so we should finish higher than that. We're good enough to beat Stoke though. I really think we are.
Badger Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Strong team please, there's still quite a lot at stake. Boruc Clyne Yoshida Forren Shaw Morgan Cork JRod Davis Puncheon Rickie Forren to make his debut now we're safe. Should be interesting. A win would see us seriously fly up the table, based on looking at other teams' fixtures. Even a draw would see us perhaps jump a spot or two. Lose and there's a good chance of 16th place. 17th spot should be covered by Sunderland, Wigan or Villa, so we should finish higher than that. We're good enough to beat Stoke though. I really think we are. CB pairing looks a bit too shortarse against Stoke to be honest, but Forren alongside Fonte might be an experiment to make. Agree we should beat Stoke, but expect the retiring 'English Marian Pahars' to get a sentimental goal, probably giftwrapped by our defence. Add in a Jos og , and we'll just need three to win.
UpweySaint Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 JWP is worth a start and it'd be nice to see a couple from the academy on the bench instead of the likes of de ridder.
Wiggles31 Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 I think we are already on the beach, but a nasty shock is in store. Saints 0 Stoke 17 means we are crying into our ice creams. Me and my old man laughed out loud at that.
Badger Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 JWP is worth a start and it'd be nice to see a couple from the academy on the bench instead of the likes of de ridder. Good point.
Dark Munster Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Premier_League_highest_scoring_games Looks like we're safe.
krissyboy31 Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Charlie Adam was sent off today, so he's suspended.
AussieDog Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Need to be strong at the back against the aeriel onslaught so I still expect Hooiveld to play. I would have liked to see one of Academy/U21 step up...maybe Isgrove? but Puncheon deserves a place after his little cameo yesterday. Be nice to have a surprise on the bench too, like Seager, but let's not have too many changes. The fans deserve a good performance to end the season, so lets hope the players haven't started their end of season party already.
SaintBobby Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 (edited) I recklessly suggested we could afford to experiment against Sunderland. Truth is that with so much prize money at stake, we should play our best starting XI. Not against some experimentation on the bench, but we should only use untried players if we have definitely won or definitely lost (and if we've definitely lost then to be confident we aren't risking heading for a 12-0 defeat!) Edited 12 May, 2013 by SaintBobby
fanimal Posted 13 May, 2013 Posted 13 May, 2013 Jos must play, his type of game; only change JP for Adam. Simple. Need to win ti finish as high as possible, money at stake.
Dr. Kucho Posted 13 May, 2013 Posted 13 May, 2013 Would rest a few players, Lambert, Schneiderlin and Shaw have looked tired lately. Maybe also use this game to include some youngsters in the squad. ------------- Boruc ---------- Clyne --- Fonte --- Hooiveld --- Forren ------ Ward-Prowse --- Cork ------- Puncheon ---- Davis ----- Lallana ------------- Rodriquez -------- Subs: K.Davis, Stephens, Schneiderlin, Lambert, Targett, Isgrove, Chambers
Andyb1 Posted 13 May, 2013 Posted 13 May, 2013 Can anyone offer a lift back to London after the game? Not really keen on the 35 quid one way trains on offer!! arbro@hotmail.co.uk if anyone can help, obviously i'd be more than happy to pay petrol.
Window Cleaner Posted 13 May, 2013 Posted 13 May, 2013 Would rest a few players, Lambert, Schneiderlin and Shaw have looked tired lately. Maybe also use this game to include some youngsters in the squad. ------------- Boruc ---------- Clyne --- Fonte --- Hooiveld --- Forren ------ Ward-Prowse --- Cork ------- Puncheon ---- Davis ----- Lallana ------------- Rodriquez -------- Subs: K.Davis, Stephens, Schneiderlin, Lambert, Targett, Isgrove, Chambers side will be as per usual. MP wants to win.
Appy Posted 13 May, 2013 Posted 13 May, 2013 Strongest possible team, as it should be for every game.
Window Cleaner Posted 13 May, 2013 Posted 13 May, 2013 Strongest possible team, as it should be for every game. who knows, a couple of them might be saying goodbye.
Matthew Le God Posted 13 May, 2013 Posted 13 May, 2013 Would rest a few players, Lambert, Schneiderlin and Shaw have looked tired lately. Maybe also use this game to include some youngsters in the squad. ------------- Boruc ---------- Clyne --- Fonte --- Hooiveld --- Forren ------ Ward-Prowse --- Cork ------- Puncheon ---- Davis ----- Lallana ------------- Rodriquez -------- Subs: K.Davis, Stephens, Schneiderlin, Lambert, Targett, Isgrove, Chambers Each place in the league is worth £800k in prize money, so I doubt we'll be messing around. A huge difference in money for the club as we could finish 10th to 17th (technically 18th but that won't happen). The higher we finish the easier it will be to attract players as well.
skintsaint Posted 13 May, 2013 Posted 13 May, 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Premier_League_highest_scoring_games Looks like we're safe. Blimey we are on there with two wins...I was expecting a few drubbings of ours to be on there...just the one lol
UpweySaint Posted 13 May, 2013 Posted 13 May, 2013 Ok "best team" but is it possible that young players with points to prove may play better then players who are tired after a long season and have secured safety? Understand players are pro's but psychological aspects can play a part so, in theory at least, the team most likely to beat stoke on the day (the best) may not be the most technically gifted proven ones
SuperMikey Posted 13 May, 2013 Posted 13 May, 2013 -----------------BORUC------------------ CLYNE-----FONTE-----HOOIVELD----SHAW ---------MORGAN-----CORK-------------- PUNCH----------LAMBERT---------JAYROD ----------------MAYUKA----------------- Subs: K.Davis, Forren, Yoshida, JWP, S.Davis, Lallana, De Ridder
Lighthouse Posted 13 May, 2013 Posted 13 May, 2013 I'd go with ------------------Boruc Clyne -----Yoshi -------Forren -------Shaw -------------Morgan -----Cork ---- Puncheon-----Davis ---- Mayuka ---------------------JRod I'd give it a go with Lambert and Lallana coming off the bench. Neither have really done it recently so I'd be inclined to try something different.
stug76 Posted 13 May, 2013 Posted 13 May, 2013 Browsing around and I found this from a Liverpool fan on a build up thread before playing Liverpool: "I ******* hate Stoke. Usually I just hate them in the build-up and aftermath to us playing them, but take great pleasure in other teams struggling against them. No more. Maybe it's some newly found solidarity from other teams, or maybe it's just after however many years, I resent having to watch Tony Pulis' black arts. Like Sam Allardyce on Red Bull, trying to push the envelope and tour the ugliest back alleys for any way to get through a football match. Maybe each human being has a finite amount of space in their lives they can accept Stoke being part of, and I've exceeded mine. Whatever it is, I ******* hate Stoke. I ******* hate their alehouse tactics. I ******* hate that a Stoke shirt seems to grant players a certain immunity. I hate that because referees expect Stoke to be overly physical, that seems to allow them - in their own tiny little minds - the excuse for Stoke to be overly physical. I'm sick of their ******* back four, all of whom look like proper Rugby League Town *****, smacking their way around the league. Wilkinson's elbows, Huth's stamp, Ryan Shawcross and his peculiar brand of footballing Jiu-Jitsu. In midfield you've got cynical *****s ******* Whitehead, who takes great pleasure in mastering the poorly timed trip, or Charlie Adam who is just tugboat slow and reckless. Top it off with that **** Waters upfront. God I hate him. He's got the face of a badger baiter. Just a horrible, horrible collection players. It's not a surprise though is it? In Tony Pulis you've got a really vile manager. Him and his stupid ******* baseball cap. All his pundit mates laugh off his teams; "well if you knew Tony as a player you'd know what his teams are like" - there's a ******* reason no one knows what sort of player he was. They simply don't care to remember some lower league yard dog, and cringe that they have to watch a team in his image. I'll give Pulis some credit though, never has a manager captured the essence of a town and it's people so well in how their team plays football than Stoke. He's such a horrible, overly macho ****. The poster boy for British footballing culture, where a dive is sneaky and insidious and thus far worse than breaking a players leg with a horror tackle, elbowing someone in the face or stamping on their chest. The man has managed to usurp Mark Hughes and Sam Allardyce as the Wannabe Alpha of the league. The fans, in amongst it all, I have some twisted sense of sympathy for. Tony Pulis' own personal Volkssturm of outcasts, trudging along every (other) week out of some misplaced sense of duty. Duty to protect their birth place. All off on a march to their death. A football death. A football death that couldn't be further removed from the one Rodgers speaks of. Off to the windy vortex of misery, void of hope. the great architecture of schadenfreude. "If we can't enjoy football then neither can you". The essence of Stoke. Stoke. That horrible ******* verb. 1) Stoke. To remove joy and purpose from the occasion Tony Pulis was delighted to stoke Liverpool at the football match Just **** off, Stoke. Not even down the lower leagues, because if that happens some poor **** will be stuck paying to watch his team run the Stoke gauntlet, being told to 'embrace' the challenge. Nah. **** that. **** this idea that defeating Dr Pulis' Monster is some kind of footballing achievement. They're removed almost entirely from the sport. Stoke a horrid mixture of shotput, 11 players cynically fouling on rotation, and set pieces. That's the ******* Stoke credo right there. If it's not a set play you can't control what's happening, so you foul, and get another set play. I'm not against physicality in football. I'm not against the odd bit of cynicism. But I'm not having the defence of Stoke. It's pure anti-football. They routintely turn up to games against any team to make sure the ball is out of play as much as possible. That is not a worthwhile tactic. Wouldn't wish it on anyone. **** off you oatcake munching *****." :lol:
100% Saint Posted 13 May, 2013 Posted 13 May, 2013 Boruc Clyne - Fonte - Forren - Shaw Cork Schneiderlin Puncheon Davis Lallana Rodriguez Subs: Davis, Hooiveld, Yoshida, JWP, Lambert, Mayuka, Guly Saints 3 Stoke 1 Final league position: 10th Agree with that apart from some of the subs instead of Mayuka Omar Rowe, Targett for Hooiveld and Isgrove for Guly and our position being 11th as Wet Spam might get a point.
Crab Lungs Posted 13 May, 2013 Posted 13 May, 2013 Browsing around and I found this from a Liverpool fan on a build up thread before playing Liverpool: "I ******* hate Stoke. Usually I just hate them in the build-up and aftermath to us playing them, but take great pleasure in other teams struggling against them. No more. Maybe it's some newly found solidarity from other teams, or maybe it's just after however many years, I resent having to watch Tony Pulis' black arts. Like Sam Allardyce on Red Bull, trying to push the envelope and tour the ugliest back alleys for any way to get through a football match. Maybe each human being has a finite amount of space in their lives they can accept Stoke being part of, and I've exceeded mine. Whatever it is, I ******* hate Stoke. I ******* hate their alehouse tactics. I ******* hate that a Stoke shirt seems to grant players a certain immunity. I hate that because referees expect Stoke to be overly physical, that seems to allow them - in their own tiny little minds - the excuse for Stoke to be overly physical. I'm sick of their ******* back four, all of whom look like proper Rugby League Town *****, smacking their way around the league. Wilkinson's elbows, Huth's stamp, Ryan Shawcross and his peculiar brand of footballing Jiu-Jitsu. In midfield you've got cynical *****s ******* Whitehead, who takes great pleasure in mastering the poorly timed trip, or Charlie Adam who is just tugboat slow and reckless. Top it off with that **** Waters upfront. God I hate him. He's got the face of a badger baiter. Just a horrible, horrible collection players. It's not a surprise though is it? In Tony Pulis you've got a really vile manager. Him and his stupid ******* baseball cap. All his pundit mates laugh off his teams; "well if you knew Tony as a player you'd know what his teams are like" - there's a ******* reason no one knows what sort of player he was. They simply don't care to remember some lower league yard dog, and cringe that they have to watch a team in his image. I'll give Pulis some credit though, never has a manager captured the essence of a town and it's people so well in how their team plays football than Stoke. He's such a horrible, overly macho ****. The poster boy for British footballing culture, where a dive is sneaky and insidious and thus far worse than breaking a players leg with a horror tackle, elbowing someone in the face or stamping on their chest. The man has managed to usurp Mark Hughes and Sam Allardyce as the Wannabe Alpha of the league. The fans, in amongst it all, I have some twisted sense of sympathy for. Tony Pulis' own personal Volkssturm of outcasts, trudging along every (other) week out of some misplaced sense of duty. Duty to protect their birth place. All off on a march to their death. A football death. A football death that couldn't be further removed from the one Rodgers speaks of. Off to the windy vortex of misery, void of hope. the great architecture of schadenfreude. "If we can't enjoy football then neither can you". The essence of Stoke. Stoke. That horrible ******* verb. 1) Stoke. To remove joy and purpose from the occasion Tony Pulis was delighted to stoke Liverpool at the football match Just **** off, Stoke. Not even down the lower leagues, because if that happens some poor **** will be stuck paying to watch his team run the Stoke gauntlet, being told to 'embrace' the challenge. Nah. **** that. **** this idea that defeating Dr Pulis' Monster is some kind of footballing achievement. They're removed almost entirely from the sport. Stoke a horrid mixture of shotput, 11 players cynically fouling on rotation, and set pieces. That's the ******* Stoke credo right there. If it's not a set play you can't control what's happening, so you foul, and get another set play. I'm not against physicality in football. I'm not against the odd bit of cynicism. But I'm not having the defence of Stoke. It's pure anti-football. They routintely turn up to games against any team to make sure the ball is out of play as much as possible. That is not a worthwhile tactic. Wouldn't wish it on anyone. **** off you oatcake munching *****." :lol: That is superb.
CWD Posted 13 May, 2013 Posted 13 May, 2013 I'd keep the same team but with Guly in for Adam if he's fit. If not then Puncheon.
SNSUN Posted 13 May, 2013 Posted 13 May, 2013 -----------------BORUC------------------ CLYNE-----FONTE-----HOOIVELD----SHAW ---------MORGAN-----CORK-------------- PUNCH----------LAMBERT---------JAYROD ----------------MAYUKA----------------- Subs: K.Davis, Forren, Yoshida, JWP, S.Davis, Lallana, De Ridder I do like the look of Lambert in a deeper role like that, dictating play from an attacking midfield point of view, and then having a pacier striker up front. Lambert has the creativity and brain to play that role in my opinion, and as he gets older I wonder if that will be the sort of position he ends up playing... or even deeper like Mark Hughes with us.
Dalek2003 Posted 13 May, 2013 Posted 13 May, 2013 Sad thing is, however hard you try you'll never be the most tedious troll on the forum while the grand master is still alive. Yes he is 'the real thing' and I am just a Pepsi !
del boy Posted 13 May, 2013 Posted 13 May, 2013 Yes, I could be very smug. broken clock scenario again
Saint Without a Halo Posted 13 May, 2013 Posted 13 May, 2013 1000/1 to be relegated, dalek. If you fancy it Real odds 0.01% or 1 in 10000 see http://www.sportsclubstats.com/England/Southampton.html Also interesing to note still a 7% chance ot 10th and a whopping 30% chance of 11th
tajjuk Posted 14 May, 2013 Posted 14 May, 2013 Would like to see Puncheon in for Lallana and JWP in for Davis, be interesting to see JWP in a more advanced role. Also would like to see Chambers given a go on the bench.
alpine_saint Posted 14 May, 2013 Posted 14 May, 2013 I expect Michael Owen to tear us a new arsehole, what with it being his last game. 0-2.
SNSUN Posted 14 May, 2013 Posted 14 May, 2013 Real odds 0.01% or 1 in 10000 see http://www.sportsclubstats.com/England/Southampton.html Also interesing to note still a 7% chance ot 10th and a whopping 30% chance of 11thBased on the final day fixtures, ANY win we get, even if it's 1-0 should see us finish 11th unless Newcastle or Norwich pull off a remarkable win. Sadly West Ham have Reading at home and I can't see them losing that. Saints 0-11 Stoke We'll cut it fine. But we'll all need fresh underwear and therapy throughout the summer. We could lose 30-0 and it wouldn't matter, as Wigan's bid for safety will end tonight. IMHO of course.
Mowgli Posted 14 May, 2013 Posted 14 May, 2013 Would rest a few players, Lambert, Schneiderlin and Shaw have looked tired lately. Maybe also use this game to include some youngsters in the squad. ------------- Boruc ---------- Clyne --- Fonte --- Hooiveld --- Forren ------ Ward-Prowse --- Cork ------- Puncheon ---- Davis ----- Lallana ------------- Rodriquez -------- Subs: K.Davis, Stephens, Schneiderlin, Lambert, Targett, Isgrove, Chambers Rest for what exactly - its the last game of the season! They will all want to be at the party! Isgrove is training with the first team squad this week so will probably get a cameo. Strongest team available. Saints back to their best!
westmidlandsaint Posted 14 May, 2013 Posted 14 May, 2013 My team Boruc Clyne Forren Yoshida Shaw Schneiderlin JWP J Rod Lallana Puncheon Mayuka
angelman Posted 14 May, 2013 Posted 14 May, 2013 http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/Peter-Coates-Stoke-City-5m-riding-Southampton/story-18979896-detail/story.html This is the same for us. So while some might consider it a worthless game, it is in fact worth a fair bob or two.
doggface Posted 14 May, 2013 Posted 14 May, 2013 Stoke will be playing in their new BLACK adidas away kit.
Appy Posted 14 May, 2013 Posted 14 May, 2013 Stoke will be playing in their new BLACK adidas away kit. The9 now has a boner.
ericofarabia Posted 14 May, 2013 Posted 14 May, 2013 Seeing as I'll be making an appearance, don't plan on anything better than a 1-1 draw!! Of the 21 games I've managed to watch Live or be down the pub and watch "Live" our record is a pretty dismal P 21 W2 D9 L10. Which means the games I'v missed "Live" = P 16 W7 D4 L5 Christ it's even worse than I thought it would be. Sorry Folks.
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