OldNick Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Just listened to it on ITv and was ruined by the opera singers who drowned out the fans. It was nothing compared to when the crowd sung it without the singers. Oh for 1976.
Turkish Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Dreadful wasn't it. So much better when its the crowd singing it.
Didcot Saint Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Agree. Sounded good at Cardiff in 03 made me cry!!
The Kraken Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 National anthem was utter sh*te too. Just let the band play it and the crowd sing it FFS.
Badger Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 National anthem was utter sh*te too. Just let the band play it and the crowd sing it FFS. Just the FA & ITV falsely believing that we need some "celebs" to lead us in the event to make it more spectacular. Sh!t isn't it ?
Hatch Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 should be dropped completely. No-one gives a shyte these days.
mightysaints Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Listened to it on the radio and could not here the crowd. Get rid of the singers
Stud mark of doom Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Agree. Sounded good at Cardiff in 03 made me cry!! Me too. A few too many pre match pints and that saints fan on the big screen crying was too much for me.
The9 Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Just listened to it on ITv and was ruined by the opera singers who drowned out the fans. It was nothing compared to when the crowd sung it without the singers. Oh for 1976. The fans weren't really singing either (due to the stupid harmonies). Just another nail in the FA Cup coffin, absolutely appalling.
mikee Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Unfortunately this is another americanism that has infiltrated our sports. Even happens at Twickenham now where the national anthem is sung superbly by the crowd. Used to make the hairs stand up on the back of my neck but now the crowd is just drowned out by these professional singers who just kill the emotion of it. It works in America as the crowd tend to stand with their hand on their hearts rather than sing but it shouldn't be allowed over here!
The9 Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 I have something to say about podiums emitting fire as the teams come out, as well.
Chez Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 (edited) Abide with me brought tears to my eyes too. The FA are absolutely clueless. The FA Cup should follow great sporting tournements like Wimbledon and The Maters by doing absolutely everything in their powers to keep things the same as it always has been. A trophy that has been fantastic for 100 years doesn't need `jazzing up', it needs to be kept `classic'. The more fireworks, dancing girls, adverts and pampering to TV the more americanised/same as every other tournement/cup final it becomes. Let's get it back on the BBC, have semi finals back at neutral grounds, replays throughout and have the cup final after the season has ended whereupon we are desperate for one more TV game before we hit the beach. When will football organisors learn that us 30, 40, 50 and 60 year olds all went to the football when they were young and despite their not being goal celebration music, mascots and all the other tripe aimed at improving the `match day experience', we kept coming back? Why? Because the game is ****ing brilliant and the atmosphere, noise and buzz you experience at games when you are a nipper is enough to make you want to come back forever more. Edited 11 May, 2013 by Chez
iansums Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 should be dropped completely. No-one gives a shyte these days. Errmmmm, no actually, which is why this thread was started. I love to hear Abide with me, but had to leave the room it was so bad. A band and 80,000 people, that's all you need, no bloody opera singers.
Badger Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Abide with me brought tears to my eyes too. The FA are absolutely clueless. The FA Cup should follow great sporting tournements like Wimbledon and The Maters by doing absolutely everything in their powers to keep things the same as it always has been. A trophy that has been fantastic for 100 years doesn't need `jazzing up', it needs to be kept `classic'. The more fireworks, dancing girls, adverts and pampering to TV the more americanised/same as every other tournement/cup final it becomes. Let's get it back on the BBC, have semi finals back at neutral grounds, replays throughout and have the cup final after the season has ended whereupon we are desperate for one more TV game before we hit the beach. When will football organisors learn that us 30, 40, 50 and 60 year olds all went to the football when they were young and despite their not being goal celebration music, mascots and all the other tripe aimed at improving the `match day experience', we kept coming back? Why? Because the game is ****ing brilliant and the atmosphere, noise and buzz you experience at games when you are a nipper is enough to make you want to come back forever more. Ridiculous thing is though, that the media moguls have convinced the buffoons at the FA that this is the sort of sh1t the public want or need.
Badger Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 And another thing , I heard only a passing reference to the Bradford fire today, despite the 11th May being the date of the tragedy. Had Liverpool been in the final of course we'd have had relentless reminders, pre-match vigils etc, etc.
Chez Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 should be dropped completely. No-one gives a shyte these days. if I had foam hand, my face would be in the palm of it
Chez Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Ridiculous thing is though, that the media moguls have convinced the buffoons at the FA that this is the sort of sh1t the public want or need. I struggle to understand why a sport that has lasted well over 125 years and has always been so popular needs anything other protecting the traditions and elements that have enabled it to last this long. If they gave me the job of promoting football I'd follow a "keep the game the same" philisophy.
Red and White Russ Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Wigan just won 1-0. They'll be up for Arsenal!
Sour Mash Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Enjoyed that final, good game, Wigan were excellent, pleased for them.
Sour Mash Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 The music they were playing when they went to lift the cup was worse than anything else so far.
iansums Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Can't think of anyone more deserving of that than Dave Whelan, great stuff.
Badger Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Pleased with the result, and more pleased that it actually meant something to Wigan by winning it. All too often you see an indifference amongst the big clubs on winning the FA Cup.
Badger Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 The music they were playing when they went to lift the cup was worse than anything else so far. Yes, 'Saints are coming ' by the Skids will be much better next year.
John Boy Saint Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Me too. A few too many pre match pints and that saints fan on the big screen crying was too much for me. I think that moment made even the hardest man fill up!
chestersaint Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 And another thing , I heard only a passing reference to the Bradford fire today, despite the 11th May being the date of the tragedy. Had Liverpool been in the final of course we'd have had relentless reminders, pre-match vigils etc, etc. Agree 100%. Bloody good game that despite the FA doing their best to £uck it up.
Graffito Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Abide with me brought tears to my eyes too. The FA are absolutely clueless. The FA Cup should follow great sporting tournements like Wimbledon and The Maters by doing absolutely everything in their powers to keep things the same as it always has been. A trophy that has been fantastic for 100 years doesn't need `jazzing up', it needs to be kept `classic'. The more fireworks, dancing girls, adverts and pampering to TV the more americanised/same as every other tournement/cup final it becomes. Let's get it back on the BBC, have semi finals back at neutral grounds, replays throughout and have the cup final after the season has ended whereupon we are desperate for one more TV game before we hit the beach. When will football organisors learn that us 30, 40, 50 and 60 year olds all went to the football when they were young and despite their not being goal celebration music, mascots and all the other tripe aimed at improving the `match day experience', we kept coming back? Why? Because the game is ****ing brilliant and the atmosphere, noise and buzz you experience at games when you are a nipper is enough to make you want to come back forever more. Couldn't put it better than this. Good post.
adrian lord Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Abide with me brought tears to my eyes too. The FA are absolutely clueless. The FA Cup should follow great sporting tournements like Wimbledon and The Maters by doing absolutely everything in their powers to keep things the same as it always has been. A trophy that has been fantastic for 100 years doesn't need `jazzing up', it needs to be kept `classic'. The more fireworks, dancing girls, adverts and pampering to TV the more americanised/same as every other tournement/cup final it becomes. Let's get it back on the BBC, have semi finals back at neutral grounds, replays throughout and have the cup final after the season has ended whereupon we are desperate for one more TV game before we hit the beach. When will football organisors learn that us 30, 40, 50 and 60 year olds all went to the football when they were young and despite their not being goal celebration music, mascots and all the other tripe aimed at improving the `match day experience', we kept coming back? Why? Because the game is ****ing brilliant and the atmosphere, noise and buzz you experience at games when you are a nipper is enough to make you want to come back forever more. Superb post.
John Boy Saint Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Abide with me brought tears to my eyes too. The FA are absolutely clueless. The FA Cup should follow great sporting tournements like Wimbledon and The Maters by doing absolutely everything in their powers to keep things the same as it always has been. A trophy that has been fantastic for 100 years doesn't need `jazzing up', it needs to be kept `classic'. The more fireworks, dancing girls, adverts and pampering to TV the more americanised/same as every other tournement/cup final it becomes. Let's get it back on the BBC, have semi finals back at neutral grounds, replays throughout and have the cup final after the season has ended whereupon we are desperate for one more TV game before we hit the beach. When will football organisors learn that us 30, 40, 50 and 60 year olds all went to the football when they were young and despite their not being goal celebration music, mascots and all the other tripe aimed at improving the `match day experience', we kept coming back? Why? Because the game is ****ing brilliant and the atmosphere, noise and buzz you experience at games when you are a nipper is enough to make you want to come back forever more. Sorry Chez only flicked through your post during a gap whilst cooking dinner. As My mate up in Bradford would say: Absolutley Bob on!
Lord Duckhunter Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 I think you are all being a bit harsh on the singers, one of them had a particularly nice pair of tits.
Saint Malc Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Agree 100%. Bloody good game that despite the FA doing their best to £uck it up. That's the trouble with an unelected, unaccountable FA. Look who runs the England setup. It was much better when the Football League ran the league and the FA just concentrated on England and the cup like it used to be. Football has gone downhill since the FA have had overall control.
CB Fry Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 That's the trouble with an unelected, unaccountable FA. Look who runs the England setup. It was much better when the Football League ran the league and the FA just concentrated on England and the cup like it used to be. Football has gone downhill since the FA have had overall control. Overall control? The FA still do concentrate on the Cup and the England team. And the amateur game stuff. What else do you think they are doing?
fareham saint phil Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Abide with me brought tears to my eyes too. The FA are absolutely clueless. The FA Cup should follow great sporting tournements like Wimbledon and The Maters by doing absolutely everything in their powers to keep things the same as it always has been. A trophy that has been fantastic for 100 years doesn't need `jazzing up', it needs to be kept `classic'. The more fireworks, dancing girls, adverts and pampering to TV the more americanised/same as every other tournement/cup final it becomes. Let's get it back on the BBC, have semi finals back at neutral grounds, replays throughout and have the cup final after the season has ended whereupon we are desperate for one more TV game before we hit the beach. When will football organisors learn that us 30, 40, 50 and 60 year olds all went to the football when they were young and despite their not being goal celebration music, mascots and all the other tripe aimed at improving the `match day experience', we kept coming back? Why? Because the game is ****ing brilliant and the atmosphere, noise and buzz you experience at games when you are a nipper is enough to make you want to come back forever more. 100% agreed, the strange kick off time was just ****e
GAS Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Just listened to it on ITv and was ruined by the opera singers who drowned out the fans. It was nothing compared to when the crowd sung it without the singers. Oh for 1976.Seemed like they all had different versions of it and started at different times. The breats kept me watching though. Bobby Stokes was in my mind for most of the day. Even remembered for the first time that I went to a charity cricket event some years later with my dad and here was there signing autographs. Long live the FA cup.
kenneth_kenobi Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Well said!! Abide with me brought tears to my eyes too. The FA are absolutely clueless. The FA Cup should follow great sporting tournements like Wimbledon and The Maters by doing absolutely everything in their powers to keep things the same as it always has been. A trophy that has been fantastic for 100 years doesn't need `jazzing up', it needs to be kept `classic'. The more fireworks, dancing girls, adverts and pampering to TV the more americanised/same as every other tournement/cup final it becomes. Let's get it back on the BBC, have semi finals back at neutral grounds, replays throughout and have the cup final after the season has ended whereupon we are desperate for one more TV game before we hit the beach. When will football organisors learn that us 30, 40, 50 and 60 year olds all went to the football when they were young and despite their not being goal celebration music, mascots and all the other tripe aimed at improving the `match day experience', we kept coming back? Why? Because the game is ****ing brilliant and the atmosphere, noise and buzz you experience at games when you are a nipper is enough to make you want to come back forever more.
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 (edited) One of the singers seemed to be singing a completely different song to abide with me as well. The sports world can take all of these professional singers and their artistic interpretations and shove them right up their @rses. It adds nothing, just detracts from the emotion of the day. Just strike up the band and put the words on the screen - easy. Edited 12 May, 2013 by Kingsbridge Saint
Professor Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Heard the parody of Abide With Me on the radio and as for that weird version of God Save the Queen maybe they wanted to disguise the UK National Anthem in case it offended three-quarters of the Man City team. Or did the two Robertos pay one of the singers to do the Italian National Anthem in the background.
Saint Garrett Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Great post from Chez. I was there yesterday and I didn't even realise they were singing Abide With Me. Whether that was the speaker system I don't know but wasn't great. Man city fans weren't great just seemed to want to sing about Mancini whereas Wigan actually got behind their team despite being heavily outnumbered. As for the result, Wigan were the better side all game. They fully deserved that!(especially as I had a tenner on a Wigan win)
Wade Garrett Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Abide with me brought tears to my eyes too. The FA are absolutely clueless. The FA Cup should follow great sporting tournements like Wimbledon and The Maters by doing absolutely everything in their powers to keep things the same as it always has been. A trophy that has been fantastic for 100 years doesn't need `jazzing up', it needs to be kept `classic'. The more fireworks, dancing girls, adverts and pampering to TV the more americanised/same as every other tournement/cup final it becomes. Let's get it back on the BBC, have semi finals back at neutral grounds, replays throughout and have the cup final after the season has ended whereupon we are desperate for one more TV game before we hit the beach. When will football organisors learn that us 30, 40, 50 and 60 year olds all went to the football when they were young and despite their not being goal celebration music, mascots and all the other tripe aimed at improving the `match day experience', we kept coming back? Why? Because the game is ****ing brilliant and the atmosphere, noise and buzz you experience at games when you are a nipper is enough to make you want to come back forever more. I was beginning to think that it was just me that hated all that razzmatazz, and semi finals at Wembley. Great post.
slickmick Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Abide with me brought tears to my eyes too. The FA are absolutely clueless. The FA Cup should follow great sporting tournements like Wimbledon and The Maters by doing absolutely everything in their powers to keep things the same as it always has been. A trophy that has been fantastic for 100 years doesn't need `jazzing up', it needs to be kept `classic'. The more fireworks, dancing girls, adverts and pampering to TV the more americanised/same as every other tournement/cup final it becomes. Let's get it back on the BBC, have semi finals back at neutral grounds, replays throughout and have the cup final after the season has ended whereupon we are desperate for one more TV game before we hit the beach. When will football organisors learn that us 30, 40, 50 and 60 year olds all went to the football when they were young and despite their not being goal celebration music, mascots and all the other tripe aimed at improving the `match day experience', we kept coming back? Why? Because the game is ****ing brilliant and the atmosphere, noise and buzz you experience at games when you are a nipper is enough to make you want to come back forever more. Why is it that so many agree entirely with this, that the powers that be, can't get it right ? Maybe we should start a petition and send it to the clueless FA.
Professor Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Why is it that so many agree entirely with this, that the powers that be, can't get it right ? Maybe we should start a petition and send it to the clueless FA. WHAT! The FA actually run the game for the benefit of the fans! You've lost the plot. How would the players in the FA's premier league and owners and agents make their millions if the game was run for the benefit of the fans. Talk sense.
CB Fry Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 WHAT! The FA actually run the game for the benefit of the fans! You've lost the plot. How would the players in the FA's premier league and owners and agents make their millions if the game was run for the benefit of the fans. Talk sense. The FA do not run the Premier League. Why on earth do people still think this?
Professor Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Ideas from other sports to improve the FA Cup Final even more:- From F1:- Female models to line the route from the dressing rooms to the pitch with a camera following the teams but focussing on the girls. From US sports TV:- artificial breaks in the game to allow more advertising spots in the TV coverage From motor sport:- sell advertising space on the players' shirts and shorts From horseracing - have the pitch surrounded by bookmakers From boxing: girls to walk round the pitch before the second half with boards carrying the number '2'. Any other ideas?
Legod Third Coming Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 The FA do not run the Premier League. Why on earth do people still think this? No, but it is still a major shareholder and has sanction on rules - bit like the security council of the UN is how I imagine it!
colehillsaint Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Ideas from other sports to improve the FA Cup Final even more:- From F1:- Female models to line the route from the dressing rooms to the pitch with a camera following the teams but focussing on the girls. From US sports TV:- artificial breaks in the game to allow more advertising spots in the TV coverage From motor sport:- sell advertising space on the players' shirts and shorts From horseracing - have the pitch surrounded by bookmakers From boxing: girls to walk round the pitch before the second half with boards carrying the number '2'. Any other ideas? 4 hour opening and closing ceremonies depicting the working class struggle for soccerball.
Hedgehog Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Agree Abide with me was rubbish, why do we need anyone on a stage singing, surely the band should start up and let the crowd do the rest. Those four were all trying to out do one another as if competing in the Voice sing offs! Get the semis back at neutral grounds, the final at Wembley last game of the season, and at 3pm. When watching as a neutral I like to have a few beers whilst watching, don't really fancy drinking at evening meal time. Have they actually researched whether this 5pmish kick off time attracts more viewers, and surely if done for family viewing, do adults and kids not mix at 3pm, but only when forced to eat with one another?
OldNick Posted 12 May, 2013 Author Posted 12 May, 2013 Agree Abide with me was rubbish, why do we need anyone on a stage singing, surely the band should start up and let the crowd do the rest. Those four were all trying to out do one another as if competing in the Voice sing offs! Get the semis back at neutral grounds, the final at Wembley last game of the season, and at 3pm. When watching as a neutral I like to have a few beers whilst watching, don't really fancy drinking at evening meal time. Have they actually researched whether this 5pmish kick off time attracts more viewers, and surely if done for family viewing, do adults and kids not mix at 3pm, but only when forced to eat with one another? I assume the kick off is for world wide coverage.
OldNick Posted 12 May, 2013 Author Posted 12 May, 2013 I don't do Facebook and wouldn't know how to start a campaign but it would be interesting to see if a let the crowd sing Abide with me would get big support. If it did it might make the FA think
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 I assume the kick off is for world wide coverage. Yeah right - midnight for a 3pm kick off or 2:15am this morning in Oz. Midnight I am happy with. 2:15am, see you in the morning.
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