The9 Posted 10 May, 2013 Posted 10 May, 2013 That isn't confirmed that he isn't playing. People keep forgetting the match is Sunday, I think.
The9 Posted 10 May, 2013 Posted 10 May, 2013 I didn't say it was confirmed, but given he hasn't been training in the build up to the game this week and is travelling to England from Zambia on the day of the game - it is a safe assumption I think. Don't you? See my previous comment.
Window Cleaner Posted 10 May, 2013 Posted 10 May, 2013 If he survives, I can see myself tapping him up for future long distant away days. Watch out for Ginger then. He's been odd since Algy bought the farm.
BlakeySFC Posted 10 May, 2013 Posted 10 May, 2013 Connor Wickham now has an 'outside chance' of being fit by the way.
Appy Posted 10 May, 2013 Posted 10 May, 2013 I didn't say it was confirmed. So why did you say he WON'T be playing? Instead of Mayuka PROBABLY won't play?
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2013 Posted 10 May, 2013 So why did you say he WON'T be playing? Instead of Mayuka PROBABLY won't play? I forgot momentarily the game was on Sunday. Cue Turkish...
Batman Posted 10 May, 2013 Posted 10 May, 2013 Connor Wickham now has an 'outside chance' of being fit by the way. who cares, we are already relegated, right?
Saint Charlie Posted 10 May, 2013 Posted 10 May, 2013 Sounds from what MP says that Schneiderlin and Yoshida will be out.
Window Cleaner Posted 10 May, 2013 Posted 10 May, 2013 Sounds from what MP says that Schneiderlin and Yoshida will be out. whoscored said they're out as well. Not always right though.
Saint Garrett Posted 10 May, 2013 Posted 10 May, 2013 Shame if true, though a lot more confident after Davis and Fonte's performances last week. Hopefulyl they'll atleast make the bench though. Wonder if Guly will start.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 10 May, 2013 Posted 10 May, 2013 I forgot momentarily the game was on Sunday. Cue Turkish... Turks pulls you up on stuff, you pull everyone else up, I pull Turks up and bear pulls me up. Dems the forum rules.
Convict Colony Posted 10 May, 2013 Posted 10 May, 2013 Not sure if this has been posted but a nice tactical view of our last game, could be some interesting learnings for Sunday. http://www.eplindex.com/31750/tottenham-1-southampton-0-indepth-tactical-analysis.html
Tokyo-Saint Posted 10 May, 2013 Posted 10 May, 2013 who pulls me off? Bearsy runs the infraction gauntlet and laughs in the face of permi-bans. See you on mums net bear!
Tokyo-Saint Posted 10 May, 2013 Posted 10 May, 2013 **** the mods! Brave or stupid bear - I'm not sure which. And to stay on topic. Yeah, I hope we beat Sunderland too. I hate those horse punching Geordie, byker grove, Ant and Dec wannabes. I will never forgive them for stealing Sheara off us.
Dark Munster Posted 10 May, 2013 Posted 10 May, 2013 (edited) A point for Sunderland means they are safe as long as Wigan don't beat Arsenal AND Villa (alternatively one of Norwich or Newcastle pick up less than 2 points). A point for us means we only need at most a draw against Stoke to be safe. And we can lose* to Stoke if Wigan fail to beat Arsenal and Villa, OR Villa lose against Chelsea, OR Newcastle fail to win one of their last 2 matches, OR Norwich fail to win one of their last 2 matches, OR Sunderland lose to Spurs, OR we lose by only 1 goal to Stoke and Sunderland fail to beat Spurs. This has 0-0 written all over it. * Non-cricket score. Edited 10 May, 2013 by Dark Munster Losing by 2 or more against Stoke means Sunderland can overtake us with a draw against Spurs
DuncanRG Posted 10 May, 2013 Posted 10 May, 2013 Shame if true, though a lot more confident after Davis and Fonte's performances last week. Hopefulyl they'll atleast make the bench though. Wonder if Guly will start. I think & hope he will, though if we're being given time in the middle of the park I'd like to see Puncheon come on for a bit longer and see what he can do.
SNSUN Posted 10 May, 2013 Posted 10 May, 2013 We will WIN on Sunday. I don't know why I think that, just an inkling in my heart. I'm feeling overwhelmingly confident about this one. The Di Canio transformation is wearing off, they've got big players out, and after stuttering form I reckon our lot will want to perform. Long journey up, great journey back for our loyal fans. Or a draw, which I'd take now if offered. Head says a draw. But 3 points would be sweet, keep us in touch with the mid-table clubs, make us mathematically safe, AND set us up lovely for the Stoke game. Let's finish the season in style.
BlakeySFC Posted 10 May, 2013 Posted 10 May, 2013 who cares, we are already relegated, right? Why So Serious?
SaintBobby Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Why So Serious? Relegation is a serious business. Fair play to you, mate, you were one of the few to stand up and point out the truth. What do you think we should do when you're proven right and the inevitable happens? Cos the rest of us are going to look like utter schmucks. Help me here. Please?
EBS1980 Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 A Q&A on the saints here http://www.sunderlandworld.com/2013/05/opponents-talk-southampton-home/
ericofarabia Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 What a line up we had. Keegan, Channon, George, Williams, Nichol, Golac and Watson etc. Had forgotten what a aster piece The Kat's tache was ... can see why it's worthy of being a posters name!!
Pilchards Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Not quite what I had in mind - but good luck. I will keep an eye out for you up there Keep an eye out for me? well I may put a call out for you on the tannoy once I get used to the controls of the plane your in Kp
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 What a line up we had. Keegan, Channon, George, Williams, Nichol, Golac and Watson etc. Had forgotten what a aster piece The Kat's tache was ... can see why it's worthy of being a posters name!! Why, thank you! Check the avatar, the tache is still alive and well even now...
Professor Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Lucky Saints haven't played in stripes this year. Less risk of accidental passes to the opposition.
John Boy Saint Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Not sure if this has been posted but a nice tactical view of our last game, could be some interesting learnings for Sunday. http://www.eplindex.com/31750/tottenham-1-southampton-0-indepth-tactical-analysis.html Having read that, it shows how increasingly intricate football has become, and how intelligent you actually have to be to carry out the managers pitch management. Those numpties in the stand crying out for the team to hoof it forwards all the time would be totally puddled reading that. Sorry for the deviation.
sandwichsaint Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Having read that, it shows how increasingly intricate football has become, and how intelligent you actually have to be to carry out the managers pitch management. Those numpties in the stand crying out for the team to hoof it forwards all the time would be totally puddled reading that. Sorry for the deviation. What an interesting read, never seen this website before so well done to whoever posted this up. And Davis filling in as a front sweeper to cover Cork's surges fd, well I never.
Forester Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Having read that, it shows how increasingly intricate football has become, and how intelligent you actually have to be to carry out the managers pitch management. Those numpties in the stand crying out for the team to hoof it forwards all the time would be totally puddled reading that. Sorry for the deviation. Not a deviation at all - you are absolutely right. MP is undoubtedly a very shrewd tactician and what I like, despite a disappointing (and undeserved) result at Spurs is that he fixes problems. If you watch that West Brom game again, you will see Jos being sucked into the hole between defence and midfield and this way out of position for the through ball. This was also our problem early on in the season when we just could not cope with the ball being pinged around our centre backs. I thought our defence was superb at Spurs and this article highlights a key reason why. Lastly, as a huge Rickie fan, I do feel he has tired recently and we should consider more frequently bringing him off the bench a la Man City, Chelsea more often away from home. His fitness understandably isn't as high as you would want for a striker playing the way that this tactical approach demands. we need to strengthen in that area in the summer big time
dvaughanwilliams Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Not sure if this has been posted but a nice tactical view of our last game, could be some interesting learnings for Sunday. http://www.eplindex.com/31750/tottenham-1-southampton-0-indepth-tactical-analysis.html A very interesting read and gives an insight into the tactical preparation that must go on behind the scenes. I haven't really paid much attention to Sunderland's performances, but I expect we'll look to take advantage of Johnson's lack of tracking back. Also, after Di Canio's statements it wouldn't surprise me if Sunderland were a little bit too pumped up for the match and gave away a lot of fouls. Playing a lot of short, fast passes making the Sunderland midfield chase the ball, getting them frustrated might lead to winning a lot of free kicks. I think that Sessegnon being injured is the biggest thing in our favour, he seems to create a lot of chances and link the forwards and midfield. Not sure who they'll get to do this job with him out. The only other alternative is to go for long balls direct to Graham or Wickham and hope that the wingers can pick up the flick ons.
DuncanRG Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Not sure if this has been posted but a nice tactical view of our last game, could be some interesting learnings for Sunday. http://www.eplindex.com/31750/tottenham-1-southampton-0-indepth-tactical-analysis.html Can we sticky this and link to it whenever anyone calls a manager clueless or acts like they know better?
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 No idea how to call this one. Spurs performance we probably win, WBA performance we lose. Depends which Saints turn up on the day.
Wade Garrett Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 We'll win 3-1, Di Canio will push the ref over, who'll do a comedy tumble then fall on his arse. MP will then put a brown trench coat on and do a Bob Stokoe comedy dance all over the pitch. Looking forward to it.
Convict Colony Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Having read that, it shows how increasingly intricate football has become, and how intelligent you actually have to be to carry out the managers pitch management. Those numpties in the stand crying out for the team to hoof it forwards all the time would be totally puddled reading that. Sorry for the deviation. Agree the complexity and the ability for each player to react to gaps or runs is immense, you can see though how half time and fatigue could impact the concentration levels which leads to more half time and late goals. Another good website is this, lots of tactical and fact based predictions, its going for a 1-1 tomorrow. http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/615309/Preview
SaintBobby Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 It does seem that a draw would be pretty damned acceptable to both sides. It would leave Sunderland hoping that Wigan don't beat both Arsenal and Villa, but that would seem to be a reasonable assumption.
Convict Colony Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 oh my god, oh my god, runs round room like a little girl about to meet justin beiber. Just found this article on the best 5 european teams at pressing and guess who's in it with the best teams in europe, a full pre-season, some more signings and we could be proper good :-) http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1632355-bayern-munich-and-the-5-of-the-best-high-pressing-teams-in-european-football
davefoggy Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 My first visit to Sunderland tomorrow, any pub suggestions?
Professor Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 For a decent pint try Fitzgerald's, owned by the Sir John Fitzgerald group. Specialises in fantastic selection of Real Ale, with beers from local micro breweries. Its in Green Terrace in the City Centre. Usually very busy and lively.
dannysfc Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Will be my 2nd time to Sunderland as the last time I went I couldn't remember the score but I think Paul Jones got KO'd though and had to be taken off so will be good to go there again as I like the Stadium Of Light too as well!!! For those who are going what time Train are you getting as I would have gone from Chandlers Ford near where I live but am going from Winchester to Waterloo, Tube to Kings Cross and Kings Cross to Newcastle and on to Sunderland so am thinking of maybe grabbing a drink near the ground or something so am looking forward to it tbh!!! Am going for either a 2-1 Saints Win or a 2-2 Draw with goals from Lambert & Schneiderlin/Rodriguez for Saints & Graham for Sunderland for 2-1 or the same scorers for Saints & Graham & O'Shea for 2-2 as I'd take a Draw tbh and 3 points v Stoke in the last game but we'l see!!! It will also be interesting with the Touchline Battle between Di Canio & Poch as well so Bring It On!!! Finally what kit will be in and where are people pre drinking too as well!?! COYR!!!
dan abnormal Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Clyne vs Rose should be a great battle. Two of the paciest fullbacks in the league. I would play Puncheon just for the great link up play between him and Clyne to try and keep rose in his own half. Punch is also our 3rd highest goalscorer this season, and we have been struggling for them recently whilst he sits on the bench Boruc Clyne Fonte Hooiveld Shaw Davis Cork Punch j rod lallana srl (presuming yoshi and morgan are still out)
Appy Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Will be my 2nd time to Sunderland as the last time I went I couldn't remember the score but I think Paul Jones got KO'd though and had to be taken off so will be good to go there again as I like the Stadium Of Light too as well!!! For those who are going what time Train are you getting as I would have gone from Chandlers Ford near where I live but am going from Winchester to Waterloo, Tube to Kings Cross and Kings Cross to Newcastle and on to Sunderland so am thinking of maybe grabbing a drink near the ground or something so am looking forward to it tbh!!! Am going for either a 2-1 Saints Win or a 2-2 Draw with goals from Lambert & Schneiderlin/Rodriguez for Saints & Graham for Sunderland for 2-1 or the same scorers for Saints & Graham & O'Shea for 2-2 as I'd take a Draw tbh and 3 points v Stoke in the last game but we'l see!!! It will also be interesting with the Touchline Battle between Di Canio & Poch as well so Bring It On!!! Finally what kit will be in and where are people pre drinking too as well!?! COYR!!! I don't understand your predictions Ben.
SaintBobby Posted 11 May, 2013 Posted 11 May, 2013 Will be my 2nd time to Sunderland as the last time I went I couldn't remember the score but I think Paul Jones got KO'd though and had to be taken off so will be good to go there again as I like the Stadium Of Light too as well!!! For those who are going what time Train are you getting as I would have gone from Chandlers Ford near where I live but am going from Winchester to Waterloo, Tube to Kings Cross and Kings Cross to Newcastle and on to Sunderland so am thinking of maybe grabbing a drink near the ground or something so am looking forward to it tbh!!! Am going for either a 2-1 Saints Win or a 2-2 Draw with goals from Lambert & Schneiderlin/Rodriguez for Saints & Graham for Sunderland for 2-1 or the same scorers for Saints & Graham & O'Shea for 2-2 as I'd take a Draw tbh and 3 points v Stoke in the last game but we'l see!!! It will also be interesting with the Touchline Battle between Di Canio & Poch as well so Bring It On!!! Finally what kit will be in and where are people pre drinking too as well!?! COYR!!! What was the middle bit, again?
Lighthouse Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Up at 4am and about to set off up the motorway with JusticeMike. Saints, you had better win this, or else!!!
rick1976.4.38 Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 about to leave,get behind the lads leave your fancy dress at home coys
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Will be my 2nd time to Sunderland as the last time I went I couldn't remember the score So you're going again because you can't remember what the score was last time?! Make sure you write it down this time!!
sammysaint Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Knowing there missing 3 1st team players 2 of which are there best strikers, should prevent them from scoring and causing a 3-0 defeat like WBA, keep Johnson and Larrson quiet and were not going to concede, bar Rose there defence lacks pace, Jay Rod should have a good game today.
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