trousers Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11700/8687439/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Mauricio Pochettino says Gareth Bale would not have been allowed to leave Southampton under the current regime. The Spurs superstar, who will face his former club on Saturday, graduated from Southampton's academy and played for the south coast club as a 16-year-old. Spurs signed him at the end of his maiden season and he has blossomed into one of the world's finest players since, this week picking up a clean sweep of gongs for the season's standout player. Theo Walcott and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain were also developed at Southampton before moving on to Arsenal and Pochettino insists that in future no young stars will need to be sold on. "With this current club's ambition, dedication and vision for the future, it would be very hard for Gareth Bale to leave this club," he said. "Right now, our mentality is to keep our best players and we spoke about that with Nicola (Cortese, executive chairman) from the first day. "We want to keep our greatest talents but at the same time now we need more time in order to develop our greatest talents as it happened with Bale, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Walcott. "Now we need to be able to keep our greatest players, our greatest talents like Luke Shaw and James Ward-Prowse, in order for them to develop their football and become top footballers. "It is a shame we don't have these three players available for Southampton now but that is our project for the future."
ericofarabia Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 Nice to hear, but easy to say. Not without the aid of his interpreter
Junior Mullet Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 This sort of project requires a great deal of stability between owners and directors. This is where a lot of clubs fail.
Webby Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 Where would Man Utd be if they had had to sell Giggs, Scholes, Beckham and the Neville's back in '92?
Turkish Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 Where would Man Utd be if they had had to sell Giggs, Scholes, Beckham and the Neville's back in '92? What do Man United have to do with it?
DuncanRG Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 What do Man United have to do with it? I'm not old enough to remember the position/financial clout of Man Utd at the time but they were a midtable team when that generation came through. Perhaps not a world away from us, who knows?
The Kraken Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 I'm not old enough to remember the position/financial clout of Man Utd at the time but they were a midtable team when that generation came through. Perhaps not a world away from us, who knows? A mid table team?! Lord above.
sussexsaint Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 Good, Shaw going nowhere then. equally importantly nor are Schneiderlin or Cork.
DuncanRG Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 (edited) A mid table team?! Lord above. 1990-91: 6th 1989-90: 13th 1988-89: 11th Probably a blip from 88-90 but that is when Giggs came through. Either way, they weren't the all-dominant powerhouse they are now and they might well have sold some of those academy players in today's climate. Edited 3 May, 2013 by DuncanRG
Pancake Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 1990-91: 6th 1989-90: 13th 1988-89: 11th Probably a blip from 88-90 but that is when Giggs came through. Either way, they weren't the all-dominant powerhouse they are now and perhaps would have sold some of those academy players in today's climate. They won the Cup Winners Cup in 90-91 ffs.
corky morris Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 If any player wants to leave any club they can..........................simple!!
Prince Jazzbo Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 In someways United created their financial clout by keeping hold of these players. Or at least they massively extended it.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 They won the Cup Winners Cup in 90-91 ffs. They weren't the team they were feom 93 onwards though...
Matthew Le God Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 They won the Cup Winners Cup in 90-91 ffs. Middlesborough and Fulham made the final of the UEFA Cup/EUROPA League in 2006 and 2010.
Bailey Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 If any player wants to leave any club they can! But that's the point - they don't want to leave! Under the current regime, there is a real belief & desire to succeed. Any young player learning their trade & experiencing first-team football would want to be a part of that. IMO, if 16-year-old Bale was at Saints now, he wouldn't want to leave due to the clubs ambition - and we're in no need to sell either.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 Chelsea did this year and we are bigger than them FFS.
Turkish Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 (edited) 1990-91: 6th 1989-90: 13th 1988-89: 11th Probably a blip from 88-90 but that is when Giggs came through. Either way, they weren't the all-dominant powerhouse they are now and they might well have sold some of those academy players in today's climate. in the 10 years prior to the three you mention they only finished outside of the top 4 twice. so that's what, 5 season outside of the top 4 in the last 34 years? Comparisons with Saints are totally valid. Edited 3 May, 2013 by Turkish
Mowgli Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 If any player wants to leave any club they can..........................simple!! Not that simple if you've signed a contract. Ask Puncheon.
Turkish Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 But that's the point - they don't want to leave! Under the current regime, there is a real belief & desire to succeed. Any young player learning their trade & experiencing first-team football would want to be a part of that. IMO, if 16-year-old Bale was at Saints now, he wouldn't want to leave due to the clubs ambition - and we're in no need to sell either. The reality is that as a potentially upper midtable club next season who appear to be showing ambition there are a lot fewer options than from a smaller premier league club or Championship one. oves to clubs like Manchester United, Chelsea and City will always happen if those clubs want them but usually it's only the very best that go there. It's making us be more attractive than clubs just below that that are the key. So the likes of Schniderlin and co dont see Everton & Newcastle as a step up career wise. If that is the case and it could well be then there are only really 4-5 clubs in the country who would be able to sign them, who are also looking all across the world at other players too.
SNSUN Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 Good news, the crown jewels are ours for keeps, especially Shaw who we'll be sweating about signing the contract when he turns 18. I still think it would have been a tough ask to keep hold of most of them had we gone down, Schneiderlin and Shaw in particular would have got bigger teams salivating. Hands off now, they're ours.
The Kraken Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 in the 10 years prior to the three you mention they only finished outside of the top 4 twice. so that's what, 4 season outside of the top 5 in the last 34 years? Comparisons with Saints are totally valid. It's one of the more bizarre posts I've seen on here in a while, that's for sure! Manchester United, the mid table team! Bloody hell that's some warped logic. I give up, I'm too tired on a Friday afternoon, yep the parallels with Saints are remarkable.
DuncanRG Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 (edited) They won the Cup Winners Cup in 90-91 ffs. Okay, my mistake! I'm not stupid enough to think they were a 'mid-table club' or anywhere near our level over history but thought their situation at that time might not have been as far away from ours as you'd first assume. But it probably was. Edited 3 May, 2013 by DuncanRG
Junior Mullet Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 Okay, my mistake! I'm not stupid enough to think they were a 'mid-table club' or anywhere near our level over history but thought their situation at that time might not have been as far away from ours as you'd first assume. But it probably was. No worries. Most people come on here without knowing the facts.
DuncanRG Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 I'm learning that pretty quickly. Gotta try and fit in haven't you!
Turkish Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 I'm learning that pretty quickly. Gotta try and fit in haven't you! Most people on here haven't got a clue what they're on about so you're doing fine mate.
ericofarabia Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 1990-91: 6th 1989-90: 13th 1988-89: 11th Probably a blip from 88-90 but that is when Giggs came through. Either way, they weren't the all-dominant powerhouse they are now and they might well have sold some of those academy players in today's climate. Can you imagine any manager being given 5 years to establish himself at a team the with aspirations and size of Man U nowadays..... 5 months more likely.
DuncanRG Posted 3 May, 2013 Posted 3 May, 2013 I don't know whether I want their next manager to be an instant success or not. On the one hand it'd be great to see a more diverse set of title-winners but on the other it would be absolutely nauseating the amount of crap fans would spout about the manager, as if Ferguson's success isn't a complete one-off.
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