Miltonroader07 Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 No, and cannot foresee a circumstance where I ever would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Problem is, due to there past/current actions/performances you can't vote for the 3 main parties, so that leaves Greens, monster raving loonies and UKIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 No, and cannot foresee a circumstance where I ever would. What if Farage had your dog hostage, and was slowly plucking its hair out and tickling inside its nose with it ? He then sends a threaning note saying that he will at some point sneak its balls into what appears to be an unassuming steak and kidney pudding that will be served up to you unknowingly one evening ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Dreadful party, probably the worst of a bad bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 What if Farage had your dog hostage, and was slowly plucking its hair out and tickling inside its nose with it ? He then sends a threaning note saying that he will at some point sneak its balls into what appears to be an unassuming steak and kidney pudding that will be served up to you unknowingly one evening ? I would simpy set the other 4 dogs, together with the 3 cats, 12 guinea pigs, and 10 chickens on him. ( And as all 3 male dogs are neutered he'd struggle with the pudding ). And assuming that the hostage dog wasnt the Jack Russell cross, he'd better look to his own '2 veg', as they'd be right in the firing line of the rescue party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 No because: A) There was not one on the ballot paper B) My pre-election frontal lobotomy operation was cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 no i did not but i don,t believe in fantasy island but can understand those who have lost faith in politics and those who live world which has gone voting ukip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2174300/Record-levels-immigration-lead-jam-packed-England-population-rockets-56m.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317624/Changing-face-Britain-By-2050-UK-overtake-United-States-ethnically-diverse-Western-nation.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Certainly not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Being in the possession of an IQ excludes me from voting for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2174300/Record-levels-immigration-lead-jam-packed-England-population-rockets-56m.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317624/Changing-face-Britain-By-2050-UK-overtake-United-States-ethnically-diverse-Western-nation.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Anyone trying to win an argument by quoting the daily mail has already lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 I did. Mainly because down here it's a case of vote for who you think will keep the tories out. I think UKIP will do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Posted on notorious ex SWF regular posters facebook page....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essruu Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 I would simpy set the other 4 dogs, together with the 3 cats, 12 guinea pigs, and 10 chickens on him. ( And as all 3 male dogs are neutered he'd struggle with the pudding ). And assuming that the hostage dog wasnt the Jack Russell cross, he'd better look to his own '2 veg', as they'd be right in the firing line of the rescue party. Your house must REALLY stink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 You're friends with dune on Facebook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Your house must REALLY stink. Only when the wind is blowing in from Fleetwood, ( which is most of the time ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Posted on notorious ex SWF regular posters facebook page....... So when a family of refugees arrive from a war-torn country and claim legitimate asylum, what are we supposed to do ? Send them straight back ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 So when a family of refugees arrive from a war-torn country and claim legitimate asylum, what are we supposed to do ? Send them straight back ? No way! Let everyone in and when they arrive give them everything they need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 (edited) No way! Let everyone in and when they arrive give them everything they need Question for you Glasgow : do UKIP put up candidates in Scotland ? And does anybody know what the United Kingdom Independance Party's line is on Scottish independance ? Edited 2 May, 2013 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 I consider UKIP to be the personal fiefdom of Nigel Farage (nobody else seems to matter, or even exist !) so I didn't vote for them ! Still see them as a protest vote which in principle I don't do ! Be interesting though to see how they get on when the results are announced ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 So when a family of refugees arrive from a war-torn country and claim legitimate asylum, what are we supposed to do ?don,t know why you argue with the poor mans private Frazier from dads army brigade,we are all doomed you know :)lol .me i,ve got a life to enjoy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Question for you Glasgow : do UKIP put up candidates in Scotland ? And does anybody know what the United Kingdom Independance Party's line is on Scottish independance ?i know of alot of ukip supporters who would love to get rid of the scots:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 i know of alot of ukip supporters who would love to get rid of the scots:) That is a point really isn't it as I assume the vast majority of their supporters are english? Should be called EIP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Question for you Glasgow : do UKIP put up candidates in Scotland ? And does anybody know what the United Kingdom Independance Party's line is on Scottish independance ? No idea mate, really have no clue about politics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Posted on notorious ex SWF regular posters facebook page....... Hate this sort of sh1te. Apart from the UK bit being made up ******** - do we really want to model ourselves on countries like Iran, North Korea and Afghanistan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Hate this sort of sh1te. Apart from the UK bit being made up ******** - do we really want to model ourselves on countries like Iran, North Korea and Afghanistan? Exactomundo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Did we all vote UKIP today Yes No idea mate, really have no clue about politics Sorry Glasow, that was just too easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 being in the possession of an iq excludes me from voting for them. like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Your house must REALLY stink. And yours smells of rotten apples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Posted on notorious ex SWF regular posters facebook page....... There is a certain irony in this drivel having the American spelling of 'licence' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Food stamps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 I'll never vote UKIP, and I'll never vote Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 The reason Ukip are surging at the moment is very simple, it is fear. No, not the fear of johnny foreginer that pushes people to vote for an anti immigration party, but fear displayed by the establishment and the 3 major parties. Its the fear that us peasants may not "understand" the EU and its wonderful contribution to British life and vote to leave their cosy little club. If all 3 parties committed to a straight forward in/out referendum then Nigel's fox is shot . They would still pick up a few protest votes, but the main body of their support would have no reason to vote Ukip. The establishment won't do it because they fear withdrawal from EU more than they fear Ukip. They know that fptp will exclude them from Westminster so they can continue to ignore us plebs even when Ukip top next years European elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 3 May, 2013 Share Posted 3 May, 2013 I'm probably one of the very few people that would still vote Lib Dems in a general election. As for today, I went by who was standing, not what party they were standing for. As it turned out he represented none of the parties mentioned ITT so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 3 May, 2013 Share Posted 3 May, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2174300/Record-levels-immigration-lead-jam-packed-England-population-rockets-56m.html That article answers its own question re:the population rise - 1 in 6 people in the UK are 65 or older. Give it 25 years and a large majority of those people will no longer be with us and our population will even out, barring any major changes in birth/death rates. The birth rate in the UK is relatively low on a global scale - in fact a large proportion of births in the UK are in non-British families. Without immigration/migration (whatever you want to call it) we would be facing a population crisis like Italy where their ageing population (20.2% of the Italian population are 65+) will soon have a real effect on their labour force and also the levels of government spending on welfare and pensions. You can talk about immigration being a bad thing, but ultimately we're always going to need immigrants for a variety of reasons. People complain that they're "taking British jobs", but the fact is that we've become accustomed to a very comfortable way of life here that people in other countries capitalise on. Nobody really grows up wanting to work a menial job, but we need people to work in those professions. People come to this country and perform the tasks that a lot of people feel are below them. Construction, sanitation, caring and nursing - these sectors have high levels of migrant workers because we're all wanting our cushy office jobs and fancy pushing a pencil for a living rather than a road drill. I'm one of those people, that's just what a lot of people expect now. You and a lot of others might not agree with it, but frankly that's been proven in Western civilisations like ours over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 3 May, 2013 Share Posted 3 May, 2013 Also I did not vote today, and I will continue to abstain until there's somebody worth voting for. UKIP are nutters that feed people very selective information, or just complete misinformation. Just capitalising on peoples fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 3 May, 2013 Share Posted 3 May, 2013 Also I did not vote today, and I will continue to abstain until there's somebody worth voting for. UKIP are nutters that feed people very selective information, or just complete misinformation. Just capitalising on peoples fear. You should always vote, even if that means turning up and spoiling your ballot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 May, 2013 Share Posted 3 May, 2013 You should always vote, even if that means turning up and spoiling your ballot. People should do what they want not what others think they should do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 May, 2013 Share Posted 3 May, 2013 I think you should always vote for who you want to win. Not a fan of tactical voting at all, but then, neither am I a fan of 150 or so constituencies effectively deciding the balance of power. If we must maintain a local link, we need to elect our MPs under a similar system to MEPs. Don't see why a Tory in Liverpool (for example) shouldn't have a say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 3 May, 2013 Share Posted 3 May, 2013 Also I did not vote today, and I will continue to abstain until there's somebody worth voting for. UKIP are nutters that feed people very selective information, or just complete misinformation. Just capitalising on peoples fear. Likewise, felt guilty for not spoiling my ballot instead, but not so easy to take a reasonably pointless political stance when you have to tuck the kids in. Problem I have is I would never vote Tory or Labour, and most certainly could never consider ever voting for a nasty party like UKIP. I refuse to vote Lib Dem until Clegg is replaced. Simply no sensible choice at the moment. Wish the Green party had a candidate in my area. Sent from my Lumia 800 using Board Express Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 3 May, 2013 Share Posted 3 May, 2013 People vote UKIP with some fear yes but also they remember promises by my party Labour concerning immigration numbers and the Polish and now with a possible huge number of Bulgarians and Romanians heading our way they are sceptical of possible numbers as are many experts, they simply dont know, we should control our immigration numbers because most of the Countries in the EU dont get the vast amounts of immigrants we do, sure per capita others Nations may of had more but other than Germany and France how many have they had? Also how many other European Nations have more immigration from outside the Union than us? Its only right and fair that a Nation should dictate its own immigration policy, its also only right and fair people are asked whether they wish to be in the European Union as I have never been asked either. Big business benefits hugely (cheap movement of Labour and cheap exports) from the European Union so I expect huge opposition to what is rightfully ours in the first place (an adult discussion and vote) so remain sceptical, the British worker is the one that gets screwed with the driving down of wages through perceived far competition from abroad, grossly unfair when someone starts at £10 an hour and someone is used to earning £15 an hour. Lastly when pro Europeans state we can move anywhere in Europe like others they mean this to be a bonus, our we going to sell our £300,000 houses (an example) an go and move to Romania, Portugal or France as an ecomonic migrant? Its a poor argument as people come here with no money and send the money they earn home, we leave here with money and usually take it with us once we have earnt (retirement) it over a period of years. The strain this puts at the lower end of the tier of housing is constant and hard for people lving here already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 3 May, 2013 Share Posted 3 May, 2013 (edited) ... most of the Countries in the EU dont get the vast amounts of immigrants we do, sure per capita others Nations may of had more but other than Germany and France how many have they had? Also how many other European Nations have more immigration from outside the Union than us?. Here you go: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Europe Turn out that only a few countries have taken significantly less proportionally than us, 11% of current population is about average. Edited 3 May, 2013 by Joensuu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 3 May, 2013 Share Posted 3 May, 2013 its also only right and fair people are asked whether they wish to be in the European Union as I have never been asked either. Above posted by Baz Sanchez Nobody who is not in government in the UK has been asked if they want to be part of a European Union. There was a referendum in the 70's to join the European Economic Community (Common Market). Which people allowed to vote voted for, all well and dandy not a problem with this the electorate spoke. But when the Politicians decide to integrate further with no mandate from the people that is when it is wrong. How can a person elected to Westminster to govern the UK by the people, decide that he/she will basically give that right to govern to a foreign entity based in a different country and allow them to change the laws of a country that they are not living in. It beggars belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbattigger Posted 3 May, 2013 Share Posted 3 May, 2013 So when a family of refugees arrive from a war-torn country and claim legitimate asylum, what are we supposed to do ? Send them straight back ? Surely they should request asylum from the first free country they reach not cross many other countries to get to the soft touch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 3 May, 2013 Share Posted 3 May, 2013 I think I mentioned Germany and France, I refer to other Nations, Germany has two millions born Turks approx resident in Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 May, 2013 Share Posted 3 May, 2013 its also only right and fair people are asked whether they wish to be in the European Union as I have never been asked either. Above posted by Baz Sanchez Nobody who is not in government in the UK has been asked if they want to be part of a European Union. There was a referendum in the 70's to join the European Economic Community (Common Market). Which people allowed to vote voted for, all well and dandy not a problem with this the electorate spoke. But when the Politicians decide to integrate further with no mandate from the people that is when it is wrong. How can a person elected to Westminster to govern the UK by the people, decide that he/she will basically give that right to govern to a foreign entity based in a different country and allow them to change the laws of a country that they are not living in. It beggars belief. We have an opportunity to influence the direction the country takes at general elections. Since 1970, how many people have refused to vote for a party that didn't explicitly rule out further integration into Europe in their manifesto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 May, 2013 Share Posted 3 May, 2013 We have an opportunity to influence the direction the country takes at general elections. Since 1970, how many people have refused to vote for a party that didn't explicitly rule out further integration into Europe in their manifesto? Don't agree. Our form of democracy is just the chance to pick your dictators. The only exceptions to this are the u-turns led by mob rule. Not much influence at all, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 May, 2013 Share Posted 3 May, 2013 Don't agree. It's good to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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