Whitey Grandad Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 we are safe....Wigan's last game is against Villa, so even if Wigan win that and beat Arsenal, Villa will still be below us.....we cannot go down Only on goal difference.
CB Fry Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 The BBC have decided we're not safe yet. Clear anti-Saints agenda.
kpturner Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 we are safe....Wigan's last game is against Villa, so even if Wigan win that and beat Arsenal, Villa will still be below us.....we cannot go down It is still mathematically possible, but statistically improbable.
Holbury Saint Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 It's potentially only 12-0, if Villa lose 5-4 or 6-5 or something mental. But this is so far off into la-la land that it's really not worth considering. Worked it out! Sunderland draw at Spurs, Wigan beat Arsenal, Wigan beat Villa 4-3, we lose 12-0 to Stoke...........we go down on goals scored!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Saint Without a Halo Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 (edited) to be clear the only way we can go down is if 1) Wigan win at arsenal 2) Wigan win against villa 3) Sunderland draw or win at Spurs 4) We lose by at 11 goals more than Villa do at Stoke probably 12 if our scored goals remains higher then theirs! 5) Fulham get at least a point or lose by less goals than us. The combined probability of all of the above happening is now less than 1 in a million so technically we can still go down but in the real world we are Safe Our probability of going down is too remote a probability to consider seriously indeed we have been effectively safe since the Reading game given what needed to happen since then for us to go down and how remote the likelehood was. I continue to believe that 39 points will ultimately be enough even though we now have 40! Edited 12 May, 2013 by Saint Without a Halo
Matthew Le God Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 we are safe....Wigan's last game is against Villa, so even if Wigan win that and beat Arsenal, Villa will still be below us.....we cannot go down That isn't correct, mathematically we are not safe. Albeit it is very, very unlikely we will go down as it would require us to lose extremely heavily to Stoke (to put us below Villa) and Wigan, Sunderland and Fulham overtake us.
croydonsaint Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 You will never be taken seriously again (as though there was a risk of that anyway....)..... enjoy! There are 2 posters on here, one of whom is dalek that with not a jot of self awareness continue to post there attention seeking drivel. The other one started a thread earlier saying we were definitely going down about an hour before we proved (again) what a complete idiot he is by getting a point away and securing safety. What is obvious with these 2 is that showing yourself up with every post matters less than the attention they get. Could I propose that they are both banned so we can celebrate out teams success with out there continuous bed wetting posts.
SNSUN Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Oh Lord. We're going to have "If we lose 12-0" posts all week aren't we! (Or at least until Arsenal spank Wigan on Tuesday...)
Colinjb Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 (edited) Could I propose that they are both banned so we can celebrate out teams success with out there continuous bed wetting posts. Sadly, being a manic depressive/insane isn't grounds for banning. Or so i'm told, it's a good job I wasn't made a moderator during that last round of applications. Power corrupts and all that..... Edited 12 May, 2013 by Colinjb
Dalek2003 Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 There are 2 posters on here, one of whom is dalek that with not a jot of self awareness continue to post there attention seeking drivel. The other one started a thread earlier saying we were definitely going down about an hour before we proved (again) what a complete idiot he is by getting a point away and securing safety. What is obvious with these 2 is that showing yourself up with every post matters less than the attention they get. Could I propose that they are both banned so we can celebrate out teams success with out there continuous bed wetting posts. Banned ? Are you a member of the North Korean Government that is against free speech ?
croydonsaint Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Banned ? Are you a member of the North Korean Government that is against free speech ? No. But wouldn't it be a better place with out trolls
The Outsider Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 No. But wouldn't it be a better place with out trolls�� Amen to that!
Dalek2003 Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 No. But wouldn't it be a better place with out trolls�� Hate to say it, but you are trolling yourself, by trying to get me banned.
Saints Warrior Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 oddschecker have Saints 1000/1 and Wigan 1/30 so that 1030/1 difference Would have to be - Arsenal 0-3Wigan - Wigan 4-0 Villa - Sunderland get at least a point away at Tottenham - Fulham get at least a point away at Swansea - Southampton 0-4 Stoke I can see a realistic Wigan 3-0 Villa at most but not more than Arsenal 0-2 Wigan which means Saints 0-6 Stoke...don't think its going to happen
The9 Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 There are 2 posters on here, one of whom is dalek that with not a jot of self awareness continue to post there attention seeking drivel. The other one started a thread earlier saying we were definitely going down about an hour before we proved (again) what a complete idiot he is by getting a point away and securing safety. What is obvious with these 2 is that showing yourself up with every post matters less than the attention they get. Could I propose that they are both banned so we can celebrate out teams success with out there continuous bed wetting posts. Stick 'em on ignore, or don't, and just ignore them. I got bored with wasting my time reading almost anything from either of them about 2 years ago, it's always the same stuff, and I have no idea why anyone still bites to their repetitive nonsense.
The Outsider Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Sadly, being a manic depressive/insane isn't grounds for banning. Or so i'm told, it's a good job I wasn't made a moderator during that last round of applications. Power corrupts and all that..... Id like to state as well that I personally resent the use of the term 'manic/depressive' to describe what is evidently a Troll. This isnt aimed at you as I know these posters frustrate you too, however Id like to state that people who suffer from manic depression do not act how these posters do. Manic depression is episodes of mania and episodes of what can often result in suicidal depression. They are quite capable of being happy and often function perfectly healthily. These Trolls are exactly what they are, trolls, we would all be better off without them posting here.
Colinjb Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Hate to say it, but you are trolling yourself, by trying to get me banned. It wouldn't be an entirely unpopular move. Just saying.
Tamesaint Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 There are 2 posters on here, one of whom is dalek that with not a jot of self awareness continue to post there attention seeking drivel. The other one started a thread earlier saying we were definitely going down about an hour before we proved (again) what a complete idiot he is by getting a point away and securing safety. What is obvious with these 2 is that showing yourself up with every post matters less than the attention they get. Could I propose that they are both banned so we can celebrate out teams success with out there continuous bed wetting posts. Dalek at least has the good grace to appear on the thread even though he was so wrong. Alpy just goes off in a sulk and only appears when we lose. One is just taking the p i s s ,. The other has some serious issues to sort out.
The9 Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 oddschecker have Saints 1000/1 and Wigan 1/30 so that 1030/1 difference Would have to be - Arsenal 0-3Wigan - Wigan 4-0 Villa - Sunderland get at least a point away at Tottenham - Fulham get at least a point away at Swansea - Southampton 0-4 Stoke I can see a realistic Wigan 3-0 Villa at most but not more than Arsenal 0-2 Wigan which means Saints 0-6 Stoke...don't think its going to happen You've got that wrong. Wigan can't finish on the same points as us, so only Villa's goal difference is a factor and Wigan's doesn't matter to us. And every goal Villa lose to Wigan by is one more we have to concede for them to finish above us. Using your example (with 0-6 Stoke) we still finish 9 goals better off than Villa, who go down. In fact all the thrashing by Stoke does in that case is put us below Sunderland (if they draw). We'd have to lose 16-0 to Stoke if Wigan stuck 4 on Villa to none back !
Turkish Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Dalek at least has the good grace to appear on the thread even though he was so wrong. Alpy just goes off in a sulk and only appears when we lose. One is just taking the p i s s ,. The other has some serious issues to sort out. So do you still think my prediction that we won't finish 10th has made me look stupid, like you said few weeks ago?
Dalek2003 Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Id like to state as well that I personally resent the use of the term 'manic/depressive' to describe what is evidently a Troll. This isnt aimed at you as I know these posters frustrate you too, however Id like to state that people who suffer from manic depression do not act how these posters do. Manic depression is episodes of mania and episodes of what can often result in suicidal depression. They are quite capable of being happy and often function perfectly healthily. These Trolls are exactly what they are, trolls, we would all be better off without them posting here. I am expecting a battering I hope this does not turn into a witch hunt !
Colinjb Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 (edited) Id like to state as well that I personally resent the use of the term 'manic/depressive' to describe what is evidently a Troll. This isnt aimed at you as I know these posters frustrate you too, however Id like to state that people who suffer from manic depression do not act how these posters do. Manic depression is episodes of mania and episodes of what can often result in suicidal depression. They are quite capable of being happy and often function perfectly healthily. These Trolls are exactly what they are, trolls, we would all be better off without them posting here. It's fair comment... No offence was intended and I appologise if it was taken by anyone. The problem is, the two main culprits do not attack anyone, therefore a banning is unlikely, but they utterly annoy by stating their own feelings as fact and get irate responses from it. This just feeds them and provides a vicious spiral of reprisal and response. The ignore function only serves to do so much when they post so much and get quoted. They are trolls (Operating by expressing an extreme viewpoint with the sole aim of getting a response is trolling....), but tread a fine line that operates within the forum rules. Therefore it needs personal restraint to avoid fueling them further..... owing to the nature of the forum (it's football.... the most emotional of past-times) this is essentially impossible. Edited 12 May, 2013 by Colinjb
Dr Who? Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 I am expecting a battering I hope this does not turn into a witch hunt ! Dalek, you are a bit of a knob at times, but I find you entertaining mate
Dalek2003 Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 It's fair comment... No offence was intended and I appologise if it was taken by anyone. The problem is, the two main culprits do not attack anyone, therefore a banning is unlikely, but they utterly annoy by stating their own feelings as fact and get irate responses from it. This just feeds them and provides a vicious spiral of reprisal and response. The ignore function only serves to do so much when they post so much and get quoted. They are trolls, but tread a fine line that operates within the forum rules. Therefore it needs personal restraint to avoid fueling them further..... owing to the nature of the forum (it's football.... the most emotional of past-times) this is essentially impossible. I very rarely make personal insults and I apologise when I do. There is a saying, which I have used before, 'If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen'
Dalek2003 Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Dalek, you are a bit of a knob at times, but I find you entertaining mate Cheers, Dr Who, see you in the next season galaxy !
stknowle Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Banned ? Are you a member of the North Korean Government that is against free speech ? No, but he is a member of the Dalek is an unmitigated malaka brigade ?????????
OldNick Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Dalek, you are a bit of a knob at times, but I find you entertaining mate you're easily entertained lol
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 I very rarely make personal insults and I apologise when I do. There is a saying, which I have used before, 'If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen' I always enjoy your contributions. None of us were 'wrong', we just weren't 'right'.
Dalek2003 Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 No, but he is a member of the Dalek is an unmitigated malaka brigade ????????? Explain ?
Colinjb Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 I very rarely make personal insults and I apologise when I do. There is a saying, which I have used before, 'If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen' Close the door on your way out.
Colinjb Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 No, but he is a member of the Dalek is an unmitigated malaka brigade ????????? Havn't heard that for a while! ha!
Dalek2003 Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Close the door on your way out. Not complaining about the heat, me.
Tamesaint Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 So do you still think my prediction that we won't finish 10th has made me look stupid, like you said few weeks ago? I said that it was your sarcastic, supercilious use of the put down "we will finish tenth" that made you look stupid. As we go into the last match of the season with a chance of finishing tenth, yes I do think that you have been stupid to have used this as a put down for the last few months.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 So are we staying up? Can someone just go over the permutations one more time please?
Colinjb Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 So are we staying up? Can someone just go over the permutations one more time please? It would need a thirteen goal swing at home to Stoke (0-13) AND Wigan winning Twice AND Villa not losing by more then one goal at home to Wigan AND Fulham and Sunderland also winning. #Safe
Colinjb Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 not the time for complacency colin Oh get a beer and start dancing you silly Bear
stknowle Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 I said that it was your sarcastic, supercilious use of the put down "we will finish tenth" that made you look stupid. As we go into the last match of the season with a chance of finishing tenth, yes I do think that you have been stupid to have used this as a put down for the last few months. Supercilious, great word. Condescending, patronising, superior, and w a n k e r are also good words.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Are you counting away goals there? I heard they count double. As we are at home next, this could be a great danger for us.
Bearsy Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 this is true tokyos, if we lose 6.5 - 0 it could go to penalties
Barry Sanchez Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Quality tune and watch the dwarf fall over at the start running in the fields.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 It's fair comment... No offence was intended and I appologise if it was taken by anyone. The problem is, the two main culprits do not attack anyone, therefore a banning is unlikely, but they utterly annoy by stating their own feelings as fact and get irate responses from it. This just feeds them and provides a vicious spiral of reprisal and response. The ignore function only serves to do so much when they post so much and get quoted. They are trolls (Operating by expressing an extreme viewpoint with the sole aim of getting a response is trolling....), but tread a fine line that operates within the forum rules. Therefore it needs personal restraint to avoid fueling them further..... owing to the nature of the forum (it's football.... the most emotional of past-times) this is essentially impossible. Alpine, despite all his protestations and "it's so hard being me, everyone abuses me" nonsense, is actually capable of being rather vile when he wants to be. There was an example of such in the last week or so.
RonManager Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 So are we staying up? Can someone just go over the permutations one more time please? Ok. Halifax, late January, 1937. A howling gale funnels down the icy cobbles of Corporation Street, the last tram is long gone.....long gone. A shadowy figure stumbles into view, bent against the oncoming blizzard. Meanwhile.....
Tokyo-Saint Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 this is true tokyos, if we lose 6.5 - 0 it could go to penalties We never win on penalties, this worries me!
Bearsy Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 Ok. Halifax, late January, 1937. A howling gale funnels down the icy cobbles of Corporation Street, the last tram is long gone.....long gone. A shadowy figure stumbles into view, bent against the oncoming blizzard. Meanwhile..... gripped! Tell me more pls
Turkish Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 I said that it was your sarcastic, supercilious use of the put down "we will finish tenth" that made you look stupid. As we go into the last match of the season with a chance of finishing tenth, yes I do think that you have been stupid to have used this as a put down for the last few months. We aren't going to finish tenth though are we, so i was right and all those that said my prediction made me look stupid are the ones now trying to redeem themselves.
stknowle Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 We aren't going to finish tenth though are we, so i was right and all those that said my prediction made me look stupid are the ones now trying to redeem themselves. Gotta hand it to you, your air of superior indifference is wholly justified YET AGAIN. It must be incredible being you.
Tamesaint Posted 12 May, 2013 Posted 12 May, 2013 We aren't going to finish tenth though are we, so i was right and all those that said my prediction made me look stupid are the ones now trying to redeem themselves. The fact that we go into the last match with a chance of finishing tenth shows that it was not a very clever put down. It does make you look stupid - very stupid if we do end up tenth. Next season try something better.
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