skintsaint Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 just a quick browse on the Norwich and Geordie forums...they seem more resigned to their fate than us! lol
Didcot Saint Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 get that on a betting slip...would be worth a fiver. But it IS a very possible scenario, sod what the bookies odds are its football.
badgerx16 Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 After 11 games we were 19th on 5 points, Wigan had 11, ( Newcastle had 14 ! ) - yet with 2 games to go we are still in control of our own destiny.
skintsaint Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 But it IS a very possible scenario We could win the next two games 5-0....thats very possible also.
Georgie Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 After 11 games we were 19th on 5 points, Wigan had 11, ( Newcastle had 14 ! ) - yet with 2 games to go we are still in control of our own destiny. Obviously back at start of November we would all have taken this situation we are now in. But after the Reading game I really expected us to push on to a mid-table finish. Instead we are lurking dangerously above the drop zone again
OttawaSaint Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 I am glad Darlek is happy. Will still take some doing to take us down and if it happens that what do you want us to do Darlek? Give you a medal? Engrave your name into some depressive's hall of fame? Have a praise Darlek thread? I just don't know what you expect to achieve by spamming the board, day in day out with the same diatribe. It's only ****ing football, we don't have an ounce of control over it, maybe you should write to all the players?
SaintBobby Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 Been a disappointing set of results recently. But 39 points is almost certainly enough to stay up still.
Batman Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 a failure of wigan to beat swansea will pretty much guarantee prem football for us next season
iansums Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 a failure of wigan to beat swansea will pretty much guarantee prem football for us next season Here we go again, no it wouldn't. Wigan could easily get a draw at Arsenal and then beat Villa. Has the past two weeks not taught you anything? The results today could hardly have gone any worse with the exception of the Newcastle draw.
Batman Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 Here we go again, no it wouldn't. Wigan could easily get a draw at Arsenal and then beat Villa. Has the past two weeks not taught you anything? The results today could hardly have gone any worse with the exception of the Newcastle draw. I dont think this wigan team can go to the emirates, 3 days after an FA Cup final and get anything
SaintBobby Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 The way it looks to me is that, even if we lose both games, Newcastle and Norwich need to get two points. One of them at least will probably fail to. Wigan need 5 points from 3 games - that's a tough ask. Additionally, I expect us to take between 2 and 4 points from the last two games. I'm still hoping we will be safe before kick off on the last day and think we will be.
obelisk Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 I'm still hoping we will be safe before kick off on the last dayMe too. Looks more and more likely that we won't be though. How many hours is that without scoring now? It's a bit of a worry and a the idea of a fraught St Mary's on the last day isn't very appealing. I can well imagine Crouch scoring a last minute winner to bring forth the tears.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 a failure of wigan to beat swansea will pretty much guarantee prem football for us next season What was your old SWF username?
SaintBobby Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 Me too. Looks more and more likely that we won't be though. How many hours is that without scoring now? It's a bit of a worry and a the idea of a fraught St Mary's on the last day isn't very appealing. I can well imagine Crouch scoring a last minute winner to bring forth the tears. We'll obviously be safe before kick off on May 19th if we win against Sunderland next week- and probably if we draw. Alternatively, if Wigan get a point or less in their games against Swansea and Arsenal, we're safe before the last game too.
lordswoodsaints Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 Everybody apart from reading and QPR wants to stay in the prem and you can bet your life they're not going to go down without a fight,I just hope that we have enough in the locker to match them blow for blow.
Saints foreva Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 a failure of wigan to beat swansea will pretty much guarantee prem football for us next season They'll beat Swansea comfortably imo.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 They'll beat Swansea comfortably imo. Agreed! This ones going to the wire
Crab Lungs Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 It'll be between 6-7 teams on the final day I reckon, but we squeak home in a comfortable 11th/12th but with just two points difference between us and 18th. Done the predictor and had Norwich going down (draw at WBA, loss at City) with Newcastle staying up - despite having the same goal difference (not sure how it's worked out after goal difference, is it head-to-head?)
Saints foreva Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 It'll be between 6-7 teams on the final day I reckon, but we squeak home in a comfortable 11th/12th but with just two points difference between us and 18th. Done the predictor and had Norwich going down (draw at WBA, loss at City) with Newcastle staying up - despite having the same goal difference (not sure how it's worked out after goal difference, is it head-to-head?) Goals scored I think, then head to head.
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 It'll be between 6-7 teams on the final day I reckon, but we squeak home in a comfortable 11th/12th but with just two points difference between us and 18th. Done the predictor and had Norwich going down (draw at WBA, loss at City) with Newcastle staying up - despite having the same goal difference (not sure how it's worked out after goal difference, is it head-to-head?) Goals scored next. For identical records I think there's a play-off game.we were very close to doing this with Coventry a few years ago.
Crab Lungs Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 Goals scored I think, then head to head. Cheers. There was no definition of that on the predictor, so I was stumped! It'll be down to the last day though, I bloody know it. We'll need a point, I know it. I can see teams changing places in the league as the day unfolds so it should be quite exciting. Still, if Wigan and Villa are below us come the last day, we're safe, right? (that was the hypothesis of Paul Chuckle, who is far better at maths than me).
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 Cheers. There was no definition of that on the predictor, so I was stumped! It'll be down to the last day though, I bloody know it. We'll need a point, I know it. I can see teams changing places in the league as the day unfolds so it should be quite exciting. Still, if Wigan and Villa are below us come the last day, we're safe, right? (that was the hypothesis of Paul Chuckle, who is far better at maths than me). For that to happen we need two points from next week.
Dalek2003 Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 I am glad Darlek is happy. Will still take some doing to take us down and if it happens that what do you want us to do Darlek? Give you a medal? Engrave your name into some depressive's hall of fame? Have a praise Darlek thread? I just don't know what you expect to achieve by spamming the board, day in day out with the same diatribe. It's only ****ing football, we don't have an ounce of control over it, maybe you should write to all the players? I won't be happy if I am vindicated in what i have been saying for the last 4 weeks, just like I was vindicated when I said the failure to appoint Hoddle in 2004 would see us on a destiny to relegation.
The Kraken Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 I won't be happy if I am vindicated in what i have been saying for the last 4 weeks, just like I was vindicated when I said the failure to appoint Hoddle in 2004 would see us on a destiny to relegation. And just like 17th last season. You tell 'em, Nostradamus.
kpturner Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 I won't be happy if I am vindicated in what i have been saying for the last 4 weeks, just like I was vindicated when I said the failure to appoint Hoddle in 2004 would see us on a destiny to relegation. Just crawl away pleeeeeease!
Dalek2003 Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 Everybody apart from reading and QPR wants to stay in the prem and you can bet your life they're not going to go down without a fight,I just hope that we have enough in the locker to match them blow for blow. That's what I have been saying. At this stage of the season clubs like Wigan playing for their lives against clubs like WBA, where the player is not going to put a foot in or his head where it hurts. Why spend the summer on the treatment table. Unfortunately our last two games are going to be against teams fighting for their lives. Sorry to say bur we have ****ed up and that is down to complacency. I even warned Alpine that faffing around signing players when the manager should be seeing us safe iss a bloody disgrace and arrogant beyond belief !
Dalek2003 Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 Just crawl away pleeeeeease! Don't shoot the messenger.
Dalek2003 Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 And just like 17th last season. You tell 'em, Nostradamus. That old chestnut, yes I got that wrong, but I am more often proved right.
The Kraken Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 That old chestnut, yes I got that wrong, but I am more often proved right. No, you really aren't old chap. You really, really are not. And you know this. Tell us more about your match prediction skills, for instance?
Dalek2003 Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 No, you really aren't old chap. You really, really are not. And you know this. Never mind. Are you ready to change your tune yet ? After all you were hammering it home how safe we were just a few days ago !
The Kraken Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 (edited) Never mind. Are you ready to change your tune yet ? After all you were hammering it home how safe we were just a few days ago ! Was I? Can you point this out? Can't remember doing that; was I drunk? Edit: its ok, I found it. I think I was drunk. But no, we're safe. We're going to draw against Sunderland and win against Stoke. You read it here first. Edited 4 May, 2013 by The Kraken
rick1976.4.38 Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 well I for one think its great were still in the mix with sunderland away next week.long way to go if weve nothing to play for coys
Dalek2003 Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 Was I? Can you point this out? Can't remember doing that; was I drunk? Edit: its ok, I found it. I think I was drunk. But no, we're safe. We're going to draw against Sunderland and win against Stoke. You read it here first. Ok Kraken. Bring this up at the end of the season.
The Kraken Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 Ok Kraken. Bring this up at the end of the season. I never gloat.
Dalek2003 Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 I never gloat. Fine with me, but if I am right please at least have the grace to admit I was right.
The Kraken Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 Fine with me, but if I am right please at least have the grace to admit I was right. I will. So long as you'll have the grace to admit you were wrong. And do so as many times as you've spammed this board saying you're right. Although I don't think I've ever said we'd be safe on 39; just that we're safe. I can't us see us getting nothing from the next two games. And your 43 points assertion from earlier in the season, you can admit your wrongness about that one too if it comes to pass.
SaintBobby Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 Fine with me, but if I am right please at least have the grace to admit I was right. You're already wrong that between 41 and 43 will be needed for safety. It remains very likely that 39 points and a good GD will be enough. Not certain, but very likely. Of course, the likelihood is that Saints will get something from the last two games anyway.
Dalek2003 Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 You're already wrong that between 41 and 43 will be needed for safety. It remains very likely that 39 points and a good GD will be enough. Not certain, but very likely. Of course, the likelihood is that Saints will get something from the last two games anyway. Well, I certainly hope we don't have to put your '39 points will be safe' theory to the test.
Georgie Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 Well, I certainly hope we don't have to put your '39 points will be safe' theory to the test. Me too. Don't think 39 will be enough. May have been if Wigan had lost today. Must not lose game next week
SaintBobby Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 Well, I certainly hope we don't have to put your '39 points will be safe' theory to the test. Well, obviously. Everyone on here hopes we end up on 45 points. But were we to lose the last two games, it's still very likely we'll stay up. I'd say it's about 90% likely that 39 points will be enough, but also about 80% likely that we'll end up with more than 39. At least one of Norwich, Newcastle, Wigan and Sunderland is likely to end up on 39 points or less.
Pedro Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 I think we are safe but became nervous when there was talk of JR and RL being selected for England, making the stadium bigger, talk of Europe, suggesting signings for PL next season, talk of top 10 this season, all seemed a bit premature when we're not mathematically safe. Today's results just confirm that everyone can only guess and there will be some "told you so's" because someone will be right.
Dalek2003 Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 I think we are safe but became nervous when there was talk of JR and RL being selected for England, making the stadium bigger, talk of Europe, suggesting signings for PL next season, talk of top 10 this season, all seemed a bit premature when we're not mathematically safe. Today's results just confirm that everyone can only guess and there will be some "told you so's" because someone will be right. Not many 'told you so's' only a few were prepared to stand up and warn of the above.
SaintBobby Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 Not many 'told you so's' only a few were prepared to stand up and warn of the above. Do you still think Saints need 41-43 points to avoid relegation?
Dalek2003 Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 Do you still think Saints need 41-43 points to avoid relegation? 41 to be safe.
SaintBobby Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 41 to be safe. So, to be clear, you think that if Saints were to finish on 40 points, we'd be relegated?
adrian lord Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 I am concerned. We are not scoring. We could easily get no more points. The other results in that scenario that see us down are not by any means far-fetched.
Saint in Paradise Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 We better bloody not go down - I have just bought a new TV and paid to join Sky Sports so I can watch a better picture than via the internet !!! I shall write to the Club demanding money if we go down. I will also instruct my UK legal people to track down and sue that Dalek for compensation as well.
BlakeySFC Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 No one believed me when I said we were going down. Now some people are suddenly realising we are not the 'Messiah's of Football' that we thought we were and sun does not shine out of Cortese's arse.
beatlesaint Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 If Wigan beat Swansea, and I think they will, there is no way 39 points will be enough to keep us up.
kpturner Posted 4 May, 2013 Posted 4 May, 2013 No one believed me when I said we were going down. Now some people are suddenly realising we are not the 'Messiah's of Football' that we thought we were and sun does not shine out of Cortese's arse.Well, if you are ultimately proved right, what would you like us to do? Shall we get a bronze statue of you erected next to Ted or something....or maybe we can just chant your name instead of Leibherr in our Championship matches.
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