Tom8558 Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Is a liability quite frankly. Need to replace him in the summer. We have a premier league squad of about 12/13 but when one of them get's injured we're up ****s creek.
Dalek2003 Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Well I am sure we'll get round to it urgently.....end of August perhaps.
itchen_dan Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 He did absolutely nothing wrong all afternoon until that rush of blood.
jabei Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 I thought he was a liability lat season as well. He must look good in training
Barry Sanchez Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 If Danny Fox was asked to leave he would miss the door and fall out the window..........
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 TBF to him he played pretty well up until then. Then Davis sold him a hospital ball but it doesnt excuse flying in two footed and then trying not to get him head torn off by Reid. I would take a replacement on any player if one was available, but it wont be tgat easy
Tom8558 Posted 27 April, 2013 Author Posted 27 April, 2013 He did absolutely nothing wrong all afternoon until that rush of blood. Isn't that enough? Is it that hard to expect a player to keep his head and not get sent off?
MOSaint Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Yeah, some doesn't have the pace at this level get, poor going forward and he's always tucking in far too much and allowing opposition wingers acres of space.. Hooiveld is another that is no more than capable at this level, doesn't do that bad against big men with no pace, but up against anyone quick and he looks awful.
the wedge Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 He has played really well when asked the last three games. Made one rush of blood decision today, rightly gets sent off and suddenly he's enemy number one again.
Tom28 Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 TBF to him he played pretty well up until then. Then Davis sold him a hospital ball but it doesnt excuse flying in two footed and then trying not to get him head torn off by Reid. I would take a replacement on any player if one was available, but it wont be tgat easy In the game I watched, Fox was caught out of position time and time again. And offered nothing going forward. Useless. His last appearance in a Saints shirt. Will be a Reading player next season.
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Sooo, who are we going to sign thats better than fox ? But not as good as Shaw ? That will be happy to sit on the bench for most of the season and never have chance to make tge step up ?
Whitey Grandad Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Lots of errors today. Poor crossing when not under pressure and poor positioning.
CityRanger Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Sooo, who are we going to sign thats better than fox ? But not as good as Shaw ? That will be happy to sit on the bench for most of the season and never have chance to make tge step up ? Thats what managing a football club is about mate. Other teams seem to do it.
Sheaf Saint Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 (edited) He did absolutely nothing wrong all afternoon until that rush of blood. Apart from a 30-second spell in the 1st half when he gave the ball away really cheaply then lost his man completely before committing a cynical foul on him to earn a pointless yellow card. Edited 27 April, 2013 by Sheaf Saint
Monk Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Always loses his man. Shame, was excited when we first signed him. Just not good enough.
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Thats what managing a football club is about mate. Other teams seem to do it. ?! But who ? Realistically is my point ? Itll be someone that can cover or no one.
JoeShmoe Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 He did absolutely nothing wrong all afternoon until that rush of blood. I don't think you understand football if you think he did nothing wrong, look at his positioning, his tracking of runs, general awareness of where attackers are. We are SO much better defensively when Shaw plays because he does these basic things properly
The Kraken Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Poor game from Fox today. I couldn't see the tackle very well but it sounds like it was justified, I'll wait and see on MOTD later (if I bother watching). WBA clearly did their homework and targetted Fox, he plainly wasn't up to it today.
CityRanger Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Fox, Hoovield, Yosh - liabilities the three of them. Have been all year to be fair. Hopefully get two strong quick top class center backs in if we stay up. Thats where the money has to go, and where it should have gone already.
Verbal Kint Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Sooo, who are we going to sign thats better than fox ? But not as good as Shaw ? That will be happy to sit on the bench for most of the season and never have chance to make tge step up ? 1) there are plenty of left backs better than Danny ****ing fox 2) why should we sign someone who isn't as good as shaw? 3) why won't he be able to challenge for a first team place? It's a squad game these days and we need 20-25 players who are good enough. Currently we have about 14/15
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 1) there are plenty of left backs better than Danny ****ing fox 2) why should we sign someone who isn't as good as shaw? 3) why won't he be able to challenge for a first team place? It's a squad game these days and we need 20-25 players who are good enough. Currently we have about 14/15 How much are we going to spend on a left back to sit behind Shaw FFS ? Why wont he be better ? As itll stiffle the lads development and we look better when he is on the pitch Thats basically why TBH
Miltonroader07 Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 He is not Prem standard.............. FACT
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 It is embarrassing that the same old clueless know it alls still defend him. Here's 3 Facts He's Shlt He's way out of his depth He won't be here next season
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 You were ok for all of about 5 minutes MLT
Verbal Kint Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 How much are we going to spend on a left back to sit behind Shaw FFS ? Why wont he be better ? As itll stiffle the lads development and we look better when he is on the pitch Thats basically why TBH It won't stifle his development. It will improve him playing with better players and having to work harder for his place. And it will allow us to not have to rely on a young lad week in week out
S-Clarke Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 He was skinned most of the game, caught out of position, misplaced 90% of his passes. WBA played on it and is why they got in so many times down their right hand side. He lowers the quality of our team when he plays, hence why we return to our early season form when he's in it.
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 It won't stifle his development. It will improve him playing with better players and having to work harder for his place. And it will allow us to not have to rely on a young lad week in week out Good enough old enough and all that, personally I would continue playing him and use the money that it woukd cost to buy a better LB to go towards a new CB, CM, ST and winger
Sheaf Saint Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 He was skinned most of the game, caught out of position, misplaced 90% of his passes. WBA played on it and is why they got in so many times down their right hand side. He lowers the quality of our team when he plays, hence why we return to our early season form when he's in it. Spot on. It's so glaringly obvious, I can't believe some people can't see it and think he is 'OK'. A replacement for him should be our no.1 priority in the summer. And Smirking Saint, as to your question about how much we spend to get a player that will sit behind Shaw, we could get a L2 player for £50K that would be better than Fox. He really is that bad.
The Kraken Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Spot on. It's so glaringly obvious, I can't believe some people can't see it and think he is 'OK'. A replacement for him should be our no.1 priority in the summer. And Smirking Saint, as to your question about how much we spend to get a player that will sit behind Shaw, we could get a L2 player for £50K that would be better than Fox. He really is that bad. No. He really isn't. In fact its plain daft to come out with nonsense such as that. He predominantly did well in the championship but he's clearly not cut out for the Premier League. If Buttner was pretty close to coming to us for £3M then I'm sure we can find someone else suitable for that price who will be a significant step up.
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Spot on. It's so glaringly obvious, I can't believe some people can't see it and think he is 'OK'. A replacement for him should be our no.1 priority in the summer. And Smirking Saint, as to your question about how much we spend to get a player that will sit behind Shaw, we could get a L2 player for £50K that would be better than Fox. He really is that bad. Well, if its gonna cost 50k we should go out and do it, personally I reckon we will just sign a Left footed CB who can cover.
itchen_dan Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Im not defending him and I agree he isn't good enough, but there were worse players out there today and in the last few games. For someone who has sat out the majority of games this season with little to no confidence, and lack of match practice, to get thrown in at the deep end, he has done ok. What more do you want from him? As others have said, to get a quality left back to come in and sit behind Shaw won't happen.
Rebel Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Fox was f**king terrible as usual. He fully deserved the red card - hopefully that is the last we'll see of him at St Mary's. His positional sense is terrible and he nearly always laces his man. He also fails time after time to play the ball when under any pressure. Every time he has played this season the team have looked unbalanced - he ****eness puts pressure on Hooiveld who then crumbles as well. He was awful against West Ham by the way once they realised he was the weak link and attacked our left. He got away with it last season as we dominated possession so much - but when we did lose badly he normally the weak spot targeted by the opposition.
Dig Dig Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Fox is a terrible left back. Slow, weak and poor positional sense. Everything you don't want in a left back.
The Kraken Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Im not defending him and I agree he isn't good enough, but there were worse players out there today and in the last few games. For someone who has sat out the majority of games this season with little to no confidence, and lack of match practice, to get thrown in at the deep end, he has done ok. What more do you want from him? As others have said, to get a quality left back to come in and sit behind Shaw won't happen. Why not? We could easily have signed Buttner in the summer for £3M. We could easily sign someone else for a similar amount. Other clubs do it, not sure why its so hard for us. Its not as if we haven't bought players this term who have played second fidlle to others.
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 You were ok for all of about 5 minutes MLT Lol. Your pathetic.think its time wake up mate. Your boyfriend has been found out. I like your style though . Defend him to the end. You are a genius
Saint-Armstrong Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 I bet Gaston is pleased Fox joined him with the red card club. This would've been all about him if Fox hadn't... ....always has to be a scapegoat.
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Lol. Your pathetic.think its time wake up mate. Your boyfriend has been found out. I like your style though . Defend him to the end. You are a genius Yeah, your not really covering yourself in glory yourself
rshephard3 Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 He did absolutely nothing wrong all afternoon until that rush of blood. That just isn't true, he was better than he usually is but that still only manages to boost him to a reasonably s**t level. For the record, his normal level is utter gash. It's not his fault. Takes his cash, can kick a ball with his left, once in a while gets a chance when the boy wonder Shaw is out. But it doesn't change the fact he's embarrassingly out of his depth in the prem. He just had a bunch of other players down at his level today who everyone expects better from.
ToreSF Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 He did absolutely nothing wrong all afternoon until that rush of blood. Beg to differ. His positioning was awful at times. Made a lot of space available for West Brom. He just isn't a premier league full back.
tartan_saint Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 He did absolutely nothing wrong all afternoon until that rush of blood. I'll have some of what you are on...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Because in stating the obvious. And the proven And anyone that dare criticise fox, in your eyes is clueless. Wake up mate. Either you have not got a clue about the game. Your very easily pleased Or your sleeping with him
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Why not? We could easily have signed Buttner in the summer for £3M. We could easily sign someone else for a similar amount. Other clubs do it, not sure why its so hard for us. Its not as if we haven't bought players this term who have played second fidlle to others. Im not sure we were aware of how good Shaw was though and wonder if Buttner was just a good deal, basically why we never seemed desperate to get a LB in after it fell through ? I agree with you, he isnt good enough, but the way some go on is laughable. We could do with better behind Shaw, but just for piece of mind I reckon 3-5 mil etc is too much. Buy a CB who can cover there if need be, that woukd be my move
lordswoodsaints Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 (edited) Tbh he didn't do anything too wrong all afternoon until the red card ,I'm not his biggest fan but I sometimes think he gets some unjust stick......saying all that I'm sure he will be farmed out in the summer with shaw being first choice. Edited 27 April, 2013 by lordswoodsaints
S-Clarke Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 He's not as bad as people make out, but he's still pretty ****. Let's be honest. There's no denying that our entire team sinks to a lower level when he's in it. He might not affect anything directly, but just have a look at the entire back 4's positioning when he's in the side. They're either 2 far over as they're making up for him not being there, or the entire back 4 is too far across because Fox has come inside - hence the gaping holes of space on the left hand side. He's not the worst player that ever lived as some would have you believe, but he's not at a level which will enable us to be competitive in this league.
The Kraken Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Im not sure we were aware of how good Shaw was though and wonder if Buttner was just a good deal, basically why we never seemed desperate to get a LB in after it fell through ? I agree with you, he isnt good enough, but the way some go on is laughable. We could do with better behind Shaw, but just for piece of mind I reckon 3-5 mil etc is too much. Buy a CB who can cover there if need be, that woukd be my move That's the logical move; a left footed Branca Ivanovic. Thing is, those types of player are a bit thin on the ground.
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Because in stating the obvious. And the proven And anyone that dare criticise fox, in your eyes is clueless. Wake up mate. Either you have not got a clue about the game. Your very easily pleased Or your sleeping with him Do yourself a favour, put the phone down before you drop it, remember to grab a water between pints and bare in mind if you dont act like such a tit maybe one of the other lads at the pub will actually talk to you Let the bigger boys here get on with the debate
Saint Charlie Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 Fox is always the scapegoat because he is ****.
S-Clarke Posted 27 April, 2013 Posted 27 April, 2013 That's the logical move; a left footed Branca Ivanovic. Thing is, those types of player are a bit thin on the ground. I reckon we'll sign a CB...and a utility defender who can cover both full back positions and CB if required. But you're right, those players are thin on the ground...but hopefully we've been out there scouting high and low.
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