Saint_clark Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Seeing as he gets a new thread everytime he plays poorly, only fair he gets a thread for today - played very well after a very slightly shaky start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Yep agreed but some will be unable to admit it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Makes you wonder if MP playing him is a way of getting proper look at him before deciding his future. Also I must say Fox seems to be more keeping shape rather than drifting in all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 He started a bit shaky but had a solid game. Good to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 crap for first twenty minutes then improved greatly well done danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintjersey Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Yup thought he had a good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 played well, kept dyer quiet for most of the game. when I hear that Fox is playing I'm not so much disappointed that he's playing specifically but more the fact that Shaw isn't playing, as we're so much more of a threat when he is on. But Fox definitely had a good game today I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Looked good, only saw on a feed but it looked like Dyer was on fire until Danny got his measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
de-fence Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Agreed, he did very well. Think he's beginning to understand his own limitations more. He's not bombing forward and trying to be creative but instead just concentrating on his defensive play. Doing him the world of good in a positional sense and I think he is now adequate back up to Shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Yep, thought he had a decent game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Thought he was pretty average actually. Poor first 20 minutes, constantly out of position. Got a lot better after that; but as the commentators I was watching said, if Dyer had any idea how to provide a final ball Swansea could have been out of sight. Luke Shaw back next week please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 He was alright today, got into it once he started listening to where Jos wanted him more, after that kept Dyer quiet and he made some good clearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Positionally he is so lacking. Every chance Swansea created came from Dyer on that side due to Fox consistently playing too narrow. It's the same every time he plays and he clearly isn't learning If shaw is fit he should be playing. We can't afford to carry Fox any longer and if we're worried about burn out for shaw then we have to get someone in this summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 I don't have a big downer on Fox and he did okay today, but it's not just about his individual performance. It's also about the fact that IMO other players fall short of their normal performances because of the need to cover for his lack of physical and mental pace. We tend to be pulled out of our normal defensive and midfield shape when he's playing, and I dread us turning the ball over when he has pushed up. These issues are far less of a concern when Shaw is playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigShadow Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 If I'm honest - my pre match prediction yesterday was for a draw, but I said if Fox and Dyer are playing we will lose. I will admit I was wrong. Happens from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Was good today. Is a decent player, mate not quite prem level and not as good as shaw but done his job well today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Was good today. Is a decent player, mate not quite prem level and not as good as shaw but done his job well today Exactly what a back-up player needs to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Why did he start? Anyone know? I think he's pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Typical SWF creating topics when players that should not be in a PL squad go through the shocking occurrence of not making match-costing mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Bloke behind me slated every bad or average thing fox did but sort of shut up when he was good IMHO fox read dyer well knew give him ball on line then retreat to box & mop up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Thought he was good today one of our best players IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Thought he was good today one of our best players IMO. well I definitely thought he had a reasonable game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 McInally on Sky was surprised Swansea were not awarded penalty for Fox handball. Haven't seen it so not able to comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 20 April, 2013 Author Share Posted 20 April, 2013 McInally on Sky was surprised Swansea were not awarded penalty for Fox handball. Haven't seen it so not able to comment. Arms at his sides and the short from Kim was straight at him. Ball to hand. Having said that, we've seen so many of them given I have no idea whether it should or shouldn't be under the letter of the law... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Arms at his sides and the short from Kim was straight at him. Ball to hand. Having said that, we've seen so many of them given I have no idea whether it should or shouldn't be under the letter of the law... Yes, they really do need to clarify it because it's becoming ludicrous. Nobody has any idea when it will be given because "the letter of the law" has been changed by interpretation directives. Newcastle were denied a penalty (or survived a penalty appeal?) last week for a more 'blatant' version of the one given against Fox when we played there. The "letter of the law" was that it had to be intentional. I can kind of see the point about not deliberately "expanding your body" but penalties are being given when players don't have a cat in hell's chance of getting out of the way, never mind seeking a deliberate advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 I don't have a big downer on Fox and he did okay today, but it's not just about his individual performance. It's also about the fact that IMO other players fall short of their normal performances because of the need to cover for his lack of physical and mental pace. We tend to be pulled out of our normal defensive and midfield shape when he's playing, and I dread us turning the ball over when he has pushed up. These issues are far less of a concern when Shaw is playing. This is exactly the point.... Fox disrupts the whole team by his lack of positioning and mental awareness. Players are constantly having to be aware that he will be out of position and the the opposition will either go past him or the cross will definately come in if he happens to be roughly in the fascinity as he never closes his player down..... By far and away our most vulnerable player..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 McInally on Sky was surprised Swansea were not awarded penalty for Fox handball. Haven't seen it so not able to comment. McInally needs to pay a trip to specsavers and if he still thinks it was a penalty he can take a one way trip to the glue factory. Biggest load of nonsense of all time if that was a penalty (especially if the Lallana/Vorm incident wasn't a goal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Thought he played well today, not easy up against someone like Dyer who is quick and moves like a wasp trying to avoid being swatted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 He had a good game today against a pacy winger with no help in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 I have got a lot of time for Fox - but he is not a top level PL left back. How many times has he headed the ball straight into the centre of our defence - he was one of the main weaknesses at the start of the season. He would do very well in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 I have more faith in MP's judgement than the arm-chair looneys on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 I thought he took good care of Dyer today.......he didn't win everything but got himself in the way on several occasions. Of course Shaw is still the first choice, but I wasn't half as nervous about Danny's performance today as when he played early season.... I think MP was taking a good look at him to decide if he stays.. .or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chestersaint Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 If we had any other left back today, we would be slating him due to the fact that every Swansea move in the first half, came from his side. We are actually judging him against previous or standard Danny Fox performances. Compared to a usual Danny Fox performance, he looked good. Compared to any other half decent left back he was ok in the second half and woeful in the first. The bloke is THE worst left back I have ever seen in the premiership and for me is the first name I hope is not on the team sheet for every game. He has liability written all over him. He didn't make any monumental mistakes today so ergo, had a 'good' game. What sort of yardstick are people on here using to judge him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge_B Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 ...is the first name I hope is not on the team sheet for every game. The first name I hope is not on the team sheet for every game is Bella Emberg. I won't go in to the reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Played a solid game by his standards today but imo he would be a good championship left winger with that sweet left foot delivery but his positioning some times makes him a liability as a defender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 thought he was brilliant today, good stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 If we had any other left back today, we would be slating him due to the fact that every Swansea move in the first half, came from his side. We are actually judging him against previous or standard Danny Fox performances. Compared to a usual Danny Fox performance, he looked good. Compared to any other half decent left back he was ok in the second half and woeful in the first. The bloke is THE worst left back I have ever seen in the premiership and for me is the first name I hope is not on the team sheet for every game. He has liability written all over him. He didn't make any monumental mistakes today so ergo, had a 'good' game. What sort of yardstick are people on here using to judge him? To be fair to Danny Fox, he's no Olivier Bernard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 Pleased to hear Danny Fox did well today. I hesitate to be critical because he did well for us last season. But in the PL it seems to me teams target him as a weakness and double up on him which means he rarely gets forward and given the importance of full backs to the way we play his inability then to get forward means we lose balance and threat down the left hand side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Saint Posted 20 April, 2013 Share Posted 20 April, 2013 We all know he's not quite up to this level but as a back up he's perfectly okay. Really annoyed me all the stick he was getting early on in the game, even getting abuse for other players' mistakes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffy Posted 21 April, 2013 Share Posted 21 April, 2013 Danny.....is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffy Posted 21 April, 2013 Share Posted 21 April, 2013 I have more faith in MP's judgement than the arm-chair looneys on this site. Danny....is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 21 April, 2013 Share Posted 21 April, 2013 Anyone know Fox's win ratio? Played ok today but still often likes to point at unmarked players rather then get near them. Really like him but no room for sentiment and without emergence of Shaw and signing of Boruc I think we could well still be very much in relegation scrap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 21 April, 2013 Share Posted 21 April, 2013 Fox may not be a world beater but he gives 100% when he plays. I get more ****ed off when our superstar players inexplicably put in half a shift. FWIW I thought Fox did well yesterday. I had to laugh when the loon sat in front of me was blaming Fox for leaving himself 1 v 2 against Dyer and Routledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintedwill Posted 21 April, 2013 Share Posted 21 April, 2013 If we had any other left back today, we would be slating him due to the fact that every Swansea move in the first half, came from his side. We are actually judging him against previous or standard Danny Fox performances. Compared to a usual Danny Fox performance, he looked good. Compared to any other half decent left back he was ok in the second half and woeful in the first. The bloke is THE worst left back I have ever seen in the premiership and for me is the first name I hope is not on the team sheet for every game. He has liability written all over him. He didn't make any monumental mistakes today so ergo, had a 'good' game. What sort of yardstick are people on here using to judge him? To be fair to Danny Fox, he's no Olivier Bernard. Graham Potter was much worse and a certain saint with a curry house must be the worst left back in pl history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 21 April, 2013 Share Posted 21 April, 2013 Spoke to him after the game, nice chap. Said the team were delighted with a point after being "battered for the first 20 mins!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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