Lighthouse Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 (edited) Well, we're 3 points closer to safety after todays results. One more point and worst case safety has gone down from 47 points to 45. Wigan 31 points - beat Spurs, WBA, Swans, Arsenal - 15 points - 44 points Villa 34 points - beat Chelsea, Utd, Sunderland - 12 points - 44 points Wigan and Villa Draw Norwich 38 points - beat Villa, West Brom, City - 12 points - 47 points Stoke 37 points - beat Saints, Spurs, QPR, Norwich - 12 points - 46 points Sunderland 37 points - beat Spurs, Saints, Stoke - 12 points - 46 points Edited 20 April, 2013 by Lighthouse
stknowle Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Kraken's player ratings: Boruc: 8. Largely untroubled but superb when needed. Distribution pretty good (though seemed to kick long a bit more often than usual). Clyne: 7. Good defensive display, got forward well but once again failed to pick the right pass when getting in really good positions. Fox: 5. Torrid first 20 minutes but got a grip and sorted himself out. Failed to support the play going forwards though, Shaw must come back in next week surely. Yoshida: 6. Comfortable enough but never really got the idea the defence was fully calm at times. Hooiveld: 6. As above, lucky that Boruc bailed him out with a great save. Schneiderlin: 7. Typically good battling display. Cork: 8.5 MOTM. Second week in a row I've given him MOTM, he was absolutely superb today. If he could just add goals to his game.... Davis: 7. Good display, has definitely added a settling effect to the midfield, especially away from home. Feel like he has improved throughout the season. Lallana: 5. Poor; a few nice touches but didn't do much at all. Rodriguez: 7. Good running from JRod without too many chances for him. Has he got quicker? Aboslutely rapid at times. Lambert: 5. Not at the races today. Ramirez: 5. Pretty poor really, gave it away too much and didn't have an impact coming on. Puncheon: 5. Looked rusty, also gave it away a bit and didn't offer much going forward. Mayuka: 6. Looked lively, could have got himself a goal. Would be good if he could turn out to be a genuine sub option up front. I'm no fan of fox but to give him a 5 today mr Krakone is extremely harsh. Never really looked troubled. Other than that fair assessment. I thought we were playing safe and hoping to nick it which we almost did. A bit like Wham last week but with a lot more finesse. Anyway a point will absolutely do.
Window Cleaner Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Well, we're 3 points closer to safety after todays results. One more point and worst case safety has gone down from 47 points to 45. Wigan 31 points - beat Spurs, WBA, Swans, Arsenal - 15 points - 44 points Villa 34 points - beat Wigan, Chelsea, Utd, Sunderland - 12 points - 44 points Norwich 38 points - beat Villa, West Brom, City - 12 points - 47 points Stoke 37 points - beat Saints, Spurs, QPR, Norwich - 12 points - 46 points Sunderland 37 points - beat Spurs, Saints, Stoke - 12 points - 46 points well that's all wrong isn't it ? 4 victories out of 5 would still only give Wigan 43 points.
Avenue Saint Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Hard fought win. Lost some shape with lambert going off, no one to hold the ball up or play off. Team looked very tired for last 15 or so. Lallana doesn't look full fit. Cork played very well and toss up between him and YOSHIDA for mom who I thought was brilliant. Lots of important tackles and interceptions. Morgan not at his best and great save from Boruc who is now showing how many points can be added on to the end of the season with a decent keeper. Overall, played well in spells but Swansea are also a decent team. Futures bright, the race for top 10 is still on!
The Kraken Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 I'm no fan of fox but to give him a 5 today mr Krakone is extremely harsh. Never really looked troubled. Other than that fair assessment. I thought we were playing safe and hoping to nick it which we almost did. A bit like Wham last week but with a lot more finesse. Anyway a point will absolutely do. Never looked troubled? According to the taters I watched, if Dyer had any idea how to play a final ball Swansea could have been out of sight. His first 20 minutes was terrible, though he did do a lot better than that for the rest of the game. I'm not Fox basher for sure, I don't mind him and as a reserve full back we could do a lot worse. But he's not good enough for a starting spot and I thought he struggled at times today. Anyway, its all about opinions so I respect you feel differently
Avenue Saint Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Ps, aside to nearly conceding another penalty, Fox refreshingly didn't have another error probe game. Looked steady and did his job. Credit where it's due.
Barry Sanchez Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Well, we're 3 points closer to safety after todays results. One more point and worst case safety has gone down from 47 points to 45. Wigan 31 points - beat Spurs, WBA, Swans, Arsenal - 15 points - 44 points Villa 34 points - beat Wigan, Chelsea, Utd, Sunderland - 12 points - 44 points Norwich 38 points - beat Villa, West Brom, City - 12 points - 47 points Stoke 37 points - beat Saints, Spurs, QPR, Norwich - 12 points - 46 points Sunderland 37 points - beat Spurs, Saints, Stoke - 12 points - 46 points Lighthouse, have you been on the seed of the poppy out there mate?
Lighthouse Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 well that's all wrong isn't it ? 4 victories out of 5 would still only give Wigan 43 points. Draw with Villa too, forgot to add that in.
melmacian_saint Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 A good result no doubt under a team that plays some nice, flair football. Some cracking bargains other than Vorm and Michu in there, Pablo Hernandez is class for just under 6 million and De Guzman and Dyer are no outcasts. They are looking like the team we should be next season. Some defensive woes and I think the team are now starting to just shift to the slow lane in a run-in that we hardly expected to be such a nice stroll in the sun. All in all both teams are very similar and just fitted into each others game. Lots of neat moves, nice passing and generally pleasant football but little room for great chances and generally ambition to go for a win was frankly not there. Taking Lambert off was the only thing that changed this a bit but A point we would all take at their stadium IMO. MOM Boruc, Cork a close contender but Steven Davis just keeps impressing me.
stknowle Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Never looked troubled? According to the taters I watched, if Dyer had any idea how to play a final ball Swansea could have been out of sight. His first 20 minutes was terrible, though he did do a lot better than that for the rest of the game. I'm not Fox basher for sure, I don't mind him and as a reserve full back we could do a lot worse. But he's not good enough for a starting spot and I thought he struggled at times today. Anyway, its all about opinions so I respect you feel differently Mate the opinion respect is mutual. Tbf didn't see the first 20 and when I tuned in to discover he was on the pitch I was really concerned, but from then on he just never looked in any kind of difficulty which was a total surprise and a welcome one.
MOSaint Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Well, we're 3 points closer to safety after todays results. One more point and worst case safety has gone down from 47 points to 45. Wigan 31 points - beat Spurs, WBA, Swans, Arsenal - 15 points - 44 points Villa 34 points - beat Chelsea, Utd, Sunderland - 12 points - 44 points Wigan and Villa Draw Norwich 38 points - beat Villa, West Brom, City - 12 points - 47 points Stoke 37 points - beat Saints, Spurs, QPR, Norwich - 12 points - 46 points Sunderland 37 points - beat Spurs, Saints, Stoke - 12 points - 46 points Worrying set of fixtures for Villa given Sunderland have started to play well under Di Canio
ToreSF Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Don't know if you can blame Fox alone for our first 20 min. He didn't get a lot of help from our midfield.
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Thought it was simply a case of two good footballing teams cancelling each other out. Both defences good, Clyne in particular excellent. Cork and David superb. A good point away from home and shows how we have matured as the season has gone on.
Northant Saint Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 I only watched the last half hour but I thought Lallana and Ramirez were awful today.
LGTL Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 That was absolutely awful viewing! Good point though.
jampot Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Hard fought win. Lost some shape with lambert going off, no one to hold the ball up or play off. Team looked very tired for last 15 or so. Lallana doesn't look full fit. Cork played very well and toss up between him and YOSHIDA for mom who I thought was brilliant. Lots of important tackles and interceptions. Morgan not at his best and great save from Boruc who is now showing how many points can be added on to the end of the season with a decent keeper. Overall, played well in spells but Swansea are also a decent team. Futures bright, the race for top 10 is still on! It was a draw...
UpweySaint Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Have to say the formation didn't help in the first twenty for Fox. Often had two on one unless cork came across to help with AL being stuck up the pitch or more central to really help. Far as i'm concerned he help up Dyer pretty well most of the time and did a decent job. People seem to have thought it was dross, was I alone in enjoying it? Perhaps it's just not having to watch fearing a bad result would be a disaster for us (imagine others, that twonk dalek aside, may have felt something similar!).
CanadaSaint Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 That was absolutely awful viewing! Good point though. Yep, but as someone else said I think the teams did rather cancel eachother out. It was frustrating listening as well as watching, with Barry Horne showing his Welsh roots rather than balanced objectivity.
Window Cleaner Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Have to say the formation didn't help in the first twenty for Fox. Often had two on one unless cork came across to help with AL being stuck up the pitch or more central to really help. Far as i'm concerned he help up Dyer pretty well most of the time and did a decent job. People seem to have thought it was dross, was I alone in enjoying it? Perhaps it's just not having to watch fearing a bad result would be a disaster for us (imagine others, that twonk dalek aside, may have felt something similar!). No I thought it was a decent game to watch, both sides were singularly lacking in the final 20 yards though. Good defences I guess.
SNSUN Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 A good point. It's a shame the teams behind us are picking up points - relegation isn't a worry anymore with Wigan's defeat today but a few more points would keep us above the chasing pack and would give us a very creditable finishing position. Norwich now one point behind us, and Sunderland are creeping up with their form under Di Canio. I can see us getting 3 points against West Brom next week but the two games after that will be tough. Should finish on 43-44 points I reckon, wherever that would get us.
pingwing Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 That was absolutely awful viewing! Good point though. Not really awful, both sides made chances, gave it a really good go and didn't decent to trying to kick it from a terrible dive/cheeky hoof. Two good footballing sides playing properly and ultimately cancelling each other out.
Dalek2003 Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 A good point. It's a shame the teams behind us are picking up points - relegation isn't a worry anymore with Wigan's defeat today but a few more points would keep us above the chasing pack and would give us a very creditable finishing position. Norwich now one point behind us, and Sunderland are creeping up with their form under Di Canio. I can see us getting 3 points against West Brom next week but the two games after that will be tough. Should finish on 43-44 points I reckon, wherever that would get us. Quite frankly anything above the relegation zone has to be pleasing...but we do seem to be fizzling out.
VectisSaint Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 I only watched the last half hour but I thought Lallana and Ramirez were awful today. Bit harsh on Lallana given that he was subbed on 77 minutes.
alpine_saint Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 A good point, but because of Stoke and Sunderlands results we are getting sucked back into the mix. We need another win, preferably against one of those two.
Window Cleaner Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 A good point, but because of Stoke and Sunderlands results we are getting sucked back into the mix. We need another win, preferably against one of those two. what mix? the only mix that I can see contains Villa and Wigan. Reading and QPR gone so just Villa and Wigan to bludgeon it out on the last day.
beatlesaint Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 what mix? the only mix that I can see contains Villa and Wigan. Reading and QPR gone so just Villa and Wigan to bludgeon it out on the last day. He likes a drama though ;-)
alpine_saint Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 what mix? the only mix that I can see contains Villa and Wigan. Reading and QPR gone so just Villa and Wigan to bludgeon it out on the last day. Hope you are right.
Jimmy_D Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Quite frankly anything above the relegation zone has to be pleasing...but we do seem to be fizzling out. If being unbeaten in 6 is 'fizzling out,' I'd take fizzling out all through the season.
Suomi Saint Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Good point from a dreadful match. Saints played with zero width and tempo and were lucky that Swansea were equally as poor. Strange tactics from MP, and his dress sense was also way off the mark. Sturrock was castigated for being a scruff but this guy is even worse! It looks like we may crawl over the finish line. A long way off being a top 10 team, never mind CL. Ignoring the first 10 games, NA's and MP's records are very similar now.
pingwing Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Good point from a dreadful match. Saints played with zero width and tempo and were lucky that Swansea were equally as poor. Strange tactics from MP, and his dress sense was also way off the mark. Sturrock was castigated for being a scruff but this guy is even worse! It looks like we may crawl over the finish line. A long way off being a top 10 team, never mind CL. Ignoring the first 10 games, NA's and MP's records are very similar now. Not really giving Swansea much credit there, they played with a lot of purpose and similarly to us played the attacking players of the game very well. Both sides struggled to create chances for being good at playing football. One or two more options going forward, little bit more fitness from our attacking players and it'll get better next year.
Dalek2003 Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 A good point, but because of Stoke and Sunderlands results we are getting sucked back into the mix. We need another win, preferably against one of those two. The voice of reason. That is what I have been saying, but have been lambasted all day. Interesting that Norwich, Stoke and Sunderland talking about needing another 3 or 4 points. Just hope that Wigan lose their game in hand.
Mr Saints Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Good point. Another point and we'll be safe but can see us getting a couple of wins anyway. The teams below us have to play each other and believe it or not the reason they are down there is they don't win many games.
Lighthouse Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Good point from a dreadful match. Saints played with zero width and tempo and were lucky that Swansea were equally as poor. Strange tactics from MP, and his dress sense was also way off the mark. Sturrock was castigated for being a scruff but this guy is even worse! It looks like we may crawl over the finish line. A long way off being a top 10 team, never mind CL. Ignoring the first 10 games, NA's and MP's records are very similar now. Actually our form since the first 10 games would have put us 7th in the League last season.
spyinthesky Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Interesting that Swansea forums seem to agree that we are a decent side and did well today at the Liberty
Leicestersaint Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Disappointing result. We need to improve in quite a few areas if we are going to advance next season.
Turkish Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 If you were a neutral that is the one game today you definitely would have wanted to watch.
stknowle Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 A good point, but because of Stoke and Sunderlands results we are getting sucked back into the mix. We need another win, preferably against one of those two. Well said mate, we are right in it up to our necks again now.
Dalek2003 Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Well said mate, we are right in it up to our necks again now. True, although with Wigan losing it gives us breathing space.
doubleonothing Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Just back to the relatives place. Would have taken a point before the game. Honestly can't see what was wrong with Lallana's goal. Comical late substitution will they/won't they. Thought Fox had one of his better games. That Swansea drum was bloody annoying.
Red Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Good Point. I notice we still have the same attention seeking whores on here though, and the same people seem who bite. This! Would have posted something similar but as I said in my last post, I can't be bothered with all the usual trolls making the same predictable comments when you express your view or ask a genuine question.
stknowle Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 True, although with Wigan losing it gives us breathing space. Yes, I feel we have just about enough space to breath at the moment but if we lose all our remaining games do you think I will be breathing easily? Like **** will I.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 A decent point given we're away from home and the quality of the opposition, then plus with Wigan losing it feels good as well. Sunderland and Norwich winning mean they are right on our tails but ultimately with Villa and Wigan facing some tricky games you have to say the final relegation spot is between those two and I feel like Saints will be fine (though not all my worry will go until we're mathematically safe). Bit worrying about Pochettino mentioning Lambert struggling with injury over the last month or so. I know last season he had a hip problem we had to manage throughout the last few months of the season (same with Lallana's groin) so lets hope that clears up for the run in.
Dalek2003 Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Yes, I feel we have just about enough space to breath at the moment but if we lose all our remaining games do you think I will be breathing easily? Like **** will I. ?????
Saint Without a Halo Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Good result, but lucky that Wigan lose as very tight at the bottom. 8 points clear of Wigan and they have five to go. I think we need one more win to be safe. Chance of relegation now 0.07% and chances of 10th or better 22% http://www.sportsclubstats.com/England/Southampton.html I think we are clearly safe and have been for some time! time to look up not down!
Dalek2003 Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Chance of relegation now 0.07% and chances of 10th or better 22% http://www.sportsclubstats.com/England/Southampton.html I think we are clearly safe and have been for some time! time to look up not down! If we beat WBA and Wigan lose their game in hand I will let myself believe we are safe.
JoeShmoe Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 Thought Lallana was pretty poor again, as he was last week. Ricky as well although he can be excused at the end of a long season. I'd try and play Ramirez wide right next week, leave Davis/JRod or even give Mayuka a game Boruc brilliant again as i thought were Cork and Yoshi. Britton is an excellent player for them, i'd have him in our team tomorrow On another note Will Buckley was awesome again for Brighton, wonder if he could make the step up?
stknowle Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 ???????? No more question marks Dear Dalek. Surely you're not genuinely concerned about going down FFS(?)
Colinjb Posted 20 April, 2013 Posted 20 April, 2013 A 0.1% chance of relegation. One in a thousand. We are safe.
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