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Les Kellet (Kallet).

 

Short bloke, but two foot wide. My Dad pointed out that he might in fact be Francis Lee out of disguise. Thought this odd,until I realised Saturday wrestling on World of Sport was filmed from the midweek before.

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Bullsh1t,they sit together in rugby why is football different,why do a small majority become bellends at football

 

if you don't know the answer to that you're wasting your time at football. go and support London Irish home and away

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I was at the Reading game last week sat in the Reading end as my company have season tickets, and I must confess for the first goal I was able to keep stumm, but the second my hand rose to say yes, but remembering where I was I turned it into a fist and shouted 'Fking Lallana'. You may get carried away, but you do need some sort of restraint.

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Maggie May

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You don't cheer if you're in the home end. Just like you don't cheer if you're a West Ham fan in a Southampton pub; a guy I was sat near today nearly got ****ed up.

 

No. Pubs are totally different. In case you haven't noticed, cities/towns contain people of all walks of life, and that includes football fans supporting other clubs. I suggest the people threatening a fight were similar Neanderthals to those kicking off in the ground.

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Anybody throwing a punch in or around a football ground should be given an immediate life ban from all football league grounds. Utter scum.

 

But it's perfectly acceptable on a Saturday night out in a city centre for example. Tw*t.

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What a load of bo££ocks and usual stereotypical belief of rugby fans.

 

I regularly go to watch England play rugby home and away and enjoy a good beer before, during and after the game. Happily sit with all fans at rugby, England v France in this years Six Nations sat next to an Irish fan (god knows why he was there) and had French fans behind us. Great banter and plenty of passion when your team scores and not a hint of trouble. Went to Croke Park Dublin for the last Ireland v England game there, sat in the stands amongst all the green shirted Irish fans with my England shirt on, not a hint of trouble. Don't you find it strange that rugby allows 85,000 people at Twickenham to take alcohol to their seats and watch the game yet at football if you want to take a bottle of water to your seat you are not allowed to have a lid on it!!

 

The anti-social behaviour you speak about is more readily seen week in week out at football, see above images of Millwall 'fans' at Wembley yesterday, the reports of trouble at Waterloo station, and the few idiots at SMS as well yesterday.

 

Drunken idiots at football ruining it yet again for the vast majority of fans. Did you hear the Wigan fan on 606 last night? He was almost in tears having been to Wembley with his daughter, she was scared stiff and does not want to go to football again because of what happened. How is that right? This sort of thing just does not happen at rugby. Lovely to hear the Leicester fan come on just after and offer to pay for the guys daughter's ticket to the Cup Final.

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CHAPEL END CHARLIE

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I saw some West Ham fans in one of the fast food outlets before the game - obviously with many young children about the place - effing and blinding away to each other at full volume as if they were in a car together. The East End clubs do seem to attract more than their fair share of the type of scummy fan you wouldn't really want to see sitting next to you.

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Indeed. If you heard tales of a Saints fan who went away and cheered a goal in the home end I'd be amazed if they didn't come away with a slap for their troubles at best. It doesn't necessarily make it right, but you should know well enough to not do it in the first place, or you will get yourself in trouble.

 

Tribalism was introduced by the authorities when segregation was inflicted on us. A couple of years ago I went to Millwall and bought a seat in the front row of the upper Cold Blow Stand. When RL scored in front of me I accidentally raised my arms and cheered then sheepishly lowered them. To my amazement nothing happened, in fact I was able to converse pleasantly to those around me for the rest of the game.

This is how it show be.

 

Mancsaint

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...absolutely no excuse for violence...unfortunately accepting that this is inevitable is harboring future football hooliganism,..is why I still don't take my daughter with me to football...and is why violence is still linked to football....thought the game had moved on...

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Tribalism was introduced by the authorities when segregation was inflicted on us. A couple of years ago I went to Millwall and bought a seat in the front row of the upper Cold Blow Stand. When RL scored in front of me I accidentally raised my arms and cheered then sheepishly lowered them. To my amazement nothing happened, in fact I was able to converse pleasantly to those around me for the rest of the game.

This is how it show be.

 

Mancsaint

 

But there's a massive difference between sheepishly letting slip you're an away fan and brazenly and provocatively celebrating a goal in the home end.

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I saw some West Ham fans in one of the fast food outlets before the game - obviously with many young children about the place - effing and blinding away to each other at full volume as if they were in a car together. The East End clubs do seem to attract more than their fair share of the type of scummy fan you wouldn't really want to see sitting next to you.

 

Um i hate to break it to you but plenty of people in southampton (and every single other place in the world) swear loudly in public places in front of children. Personally i think this over the top "protecting" our precious little children is rubbish.

 

First of all you make swearing mean something (i mean who's ever actually been offended by a swear word? Not the intent, but the word?) and secondly those kids WILL have heard it before, will hear it again and won't turn into raging monsters who rob grannies and rape every woman they see just because of a few people swearing!

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Um i hate to break it to you but plenty of people in southampton (and every single other place in the world) swear loudly in public places in front of children. Personally i think this over the top "protecting" our precious little children is rubbish.

 

First of all you make swearing mean something (i mean who's ever actually been offended by a swear word? Not the intent, but the word?) and secondly those kids WILL have heard it before, will hear it again and won't turn into raging monsters who rob grannies and rape every woman they see just because of a few people swearing!

 

If you feel is it perfectly OK to loudly employ the F word in front of young children (age 6 or 7) while they are in the setting of a restaurant (if we dignify a fast food outlet with that term) then that shipmate is a pretty telling insight into how you were brought up. But perhaps it's a generational thing I suppose.

 

But I must admit that I've too have been known to utter the odd expletive under my breath while actually at the match - normally when I see Guly getting ready to come on - but there's a time and a place for that kind of thing ...

 

... and a restaurant just ain't one of them.

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I was sat next to a West Ham fan who, when they equalised, gave a single clap and promptly apologised.

 

I've been in with the home fans when Saints have played away. If you shut up, you don't get into plunder.

 

As for Rugby comparisons, we should be looking at making only the Captain able to talk to the ref like Rugby to stop Andy F*cking Caroll mouthing off at every break in play!

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Rugby is a sh1t sport with sh1t atmosphere. Been to a few games and almost fell asleep. I love the passion at football games that you get nowhere else.

 

Doesnt mean that football should end with violence....I love the banter and highly charged atmospheres during a game, but as soon as you leave the ground and mix outside with the opposition fans you should be able to continue a bit of verbal banter (win, lose or draw) without leading to any physical altercations. Not just at football but in all walks of life, people need to be able to take and give banter without feeling it necessary top raise their fists. Unfortunately some people are too stupid to be able to cope with banter and cant reply so feel it necessary to use their physical attributes to make up for their lack of brain cells. I even have mates who get aggressive and personal when being bantered, even though their banter is a lot more personal and provocative then what they receive.

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One of the Saints fans on twitter was sitting the row in front with her 10 year old son, with these two drunken West Ham fans behind them.

 

Apparently they were absolutely para and stumbled over on top of her and her son when they scored and started gloating, she protected her son (obviously) by pushing/hitting them back and then the Saints fans sitting around them waded in to protect them both from any further harm.

 

They were alright though, think the West Ham fans were a bit worse for wear but nothing major, were still gloating and goading everyone whilst being escorted out of the stadium apprently.

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slightly off thread but in Frog and Parrot after game a lad with a Millwall shirt was on his own watching game and loads of West Ham fans giving him **** - fair play to him though he was standing up to them but got ejected for his own safety.

Plenty here saying fighting ok but so many 'hard men' at football only prepared to have a go when numbers stacked with them.

Although said Millwall fan did appear to have a screw loose.

 

To all those saying they expect away fans to get a kicking for celebrating it think depends on the fan and circumstance- a dad with his kid celebrating teh football is not the same as someone taken the p1ss provoking and gets what he deserves/should expect. Often cowards will attack the dad type fan not the proper thug so not as principled as they like to state.

 

Also curious that so often doesn't kick off in pubs with rival fans any more - what is difference btween the tribal non-rugby approach? Bottle? TBH i have grown out of it but still irks me.

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Saddest thing is some seem to think its 'acceptable' or 'he got what was comming to him' simply for cherering his own sides goal... it may be what happens, 'what else can he expect', but read all that you have written again, and tell me you cant see how pathetic it is... why in football, should we accept this 'excuse' for violence, simply because someone sat next to you supports the other side?

 

Sure the seperation of fans is good for atmosphere, banter etc, but if some still think someone celebrating a goal is worth a 'kicking' simply because they are sat in the wrong end... you need to ask yourslef some serious questions. Pretty pathetic.

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Saddest thing is some seem to think its 'acceptable' or 'he got what was comming to him' simply for cherering his own sides goal... it may be what happens, 'what else can he expect', but read all that you have written again, and tell me you cant see how pathetic it is... why in football, should we accept this 'excuse' for violence, simply because someone sat next to you supports the other side?

 

Sure the seperation of fans is good for atmosphere, banter etc, but if some still think someone celebrating a goal is worth a 'kicking' simply because they are sat in the wrong end... you need to ask yourslef some serious questions. Pretty pathetic.

 

as usual Frank you fail to understand and spectacularly get it wrong, but this shouldn't surprise us, it's par the course these days isn't it. In your eageress totype and type and type and type you miss the entire theme of the post and most of the responses. Take a step back, Read the post and comprehend what people are saying. I dont think a single person has said that simply sitting next to someone that supports the opposition means you deserve to get at the very least, a giant foam hand slapped round your cannister. It's the acting up, goading and winding up of home fans whilst in their end, usually after celebrating a goal in a provocative manner that causes the problems, which is exactly how the people who witnessed the event described it. The saddest thing is you dont seem to be able to comprehend the difference.

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All this reminds me of an occasion inn the early 70's when I was at University up north.

 

I went to Elland Road by myself to see Saints play Leeds and stood on the terraces around the half way line.

 

The referee gave a very dodgy penalty after Gerry Gurr was adjudged to have fouled Billy Bremner and I yelled out in protest and then realised that all around me there was silence and Leeds fans looking amazed.

 

Fortunately nothing was said as they were mainly laughing at their good fortune and probably surprised at seeing one of the very few Saints fans at the game.

 

I suppose being away from the 'hard core' fans also helped.

 

Jasper Carrott does a couple of good pieces about being a Birmingham fan at Old Trafford and an England fan at Hampden, again back in the 70's

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The girls just read something funny on the echo site. Chelsea fans run - but West Ham fans are too stupid to run. same story in Itchen North with lots of evictions and the inevitable fights. 2 west ham fans in the chapel had a lucky day and only the generosity of the Saints Fans meant they were evicted and sent on their way.

 

overall a good day for girls but deflated after letting in a soft goal.

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as usual Frank you fail to understand and spectacularly get it wrong, but this shouldn't surprise us, it's par the course these days isn't it. In your eageress totype and type and type and type you miss the entire theme of the post and most of the responses. Take a step back, Read the post and comprehend what people are saying. I dont think a single person has said that simply sitting next to someone that supports the opposition means you deserve to get at the very least, a giant foam hand slapped round your cannister. It's the acting up, goading and winding up of home fans whilst in their end, usually after celebrating a goal in a provocative manner that causes the problems, which is exactly how the people who witnessed the event described it. The saddest thing is you dont seem to be able to comprehend the difference.

 

+1 no-one is condoning what happened - I witnessed it as it was about 60 yards away - these 2 were acting like complete ****s - they were jumping around for several minutes - not just after the goal they then started beckoning anyone to take them on for several minutes.

It took ages for anyone to react and all showed restraint then a few just had enough of them and it then kicked off.

This is not 2 fans in the home end this is 2 idiots taking the mickey and goading fans - you may find that ok Frank personally I think its pathetic and asking for what they got.

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as usual Frank you fail to understand and spectacularly get it wrong, but this shouldn't surprise us, it's par the course these days isn't it. In your eageress totype and type and type and type you miss the entire theme of the post and most of the responses. Take a step back, Read the post and comprehend what people are saying. I dont think a single person has said that simply sitting next to someone that supports the opposition means you deserve to get at the very least, a giant foam hand slapped round your cannister. It's the acting up, goading and winding up of home fans whilst in their end, usually after celebrating a goal in a provocative manner that causes the problems, which is exactly how the people who witnessed the event described it. The saddest thing is you dont seem to be able to comprehend the difference.

 

Oh I Do Turkish... just find it a bit fricken pathetic that because some ****s are acting up 'goading' or whatever, some feel they 'deserve' a what they got - however you want to paint it, the choice of whether to repsond to the goading is down the the individual - you steam in for a ruck like an idiot, or you laugh at the pathetic losers who think they are big an clever. Ultimately its abvout what you feel is morally justifiable - these are pathetic fans thinking they are 'ard at football, its not like someone is threatening you kids or missus in the street... make all the 'excuses' you want, its still an individual choice how to respond, and repsonding in the way some of our fans did makes them equally as stupid as those goading in the first place..... 'hey but its all OK, cus they was asking for it'.... :facepalm:

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Oh I Do Turkish... just find it a bit fricken pathetic that because some ****s are acting up 'goading' or whatever' date=' some feel they 'deserve' a what they got - however you want to paint it, the choice of whether to repsond to the goading is down the the individual - you steam in for a ruck like an idiot, or you laugh at the pathetic losers who think they are big an clever. Ultimately its abvout what you feel is morally justifiable - these are pathetic fans thinking they are 'ard at football, its not like someone is threatening you kids or missus in the street... make all the 'excuses' you want, its still an individual choice how to respond, and repsonding in the way some of our fans did makes them equally as stupid as those goading in the first place..... 'hey but its all OK, cus they was asking for it'.... :facepalm:[/quote']

 

How does it feel up there on the moral highground btw ? Looking down on the peasants, damn them and their backward ways, how have they not managed to shift their callous manners into the peace loving guru that you are ?

 

FWIW I have sat next to those supporting the other side, not a massive issue, you shouldnt be there granted but its not a massive problem generally. Cant see how some do not realise that a guy stood up goading is more than likely gonna get a slap. Rightly or wrongly some people will accept being dissrespected by another, others will not.

 

I for one, am very glad that we have those such as yourself to point out our moral pathways, god knows where we would end up otherwise

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How does it feel up there on the moral highground btw ? Looking down on the peasants, damn them and their backward ways, how have they not managed to shift their callous manners into the peace loving guru that you are ?

 

FWIW I have sat next to those supporting the other side, not a massive issue, you shouldnt be there granted but its not a massive problem generally. Cant see how some do not realise that a guy stood up goading is more than likely gonna get a slap. Rightly or wrongly some people will accept being dissrespected by another, others will not.

 

I for one, am very glad that we have those such as yourself to point out our moral pathways, god knows where we would end up otherwise

 

Very Droll...forget moral highground, try simple legal perspectives.... Jeez. This thread is about views on that incident, mine are simple. Laugh at the ****s making dicks of themselves because they think they are hard... if some have such sensitive egos that they feel they have been 'disrespected' ...jeez.. am laughing - so now its alright to give someone a kicking because your ego has been bruised by some ****s shouwing 'disrespect... it just gets fricken sadder :facepalm:

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