Georgie Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 If Wigan win later, back to square 1. With one game less to play. Although it would be nice if everyone below us could lose we can't help what happens else where
Saintandy666 Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 I meant in terms of points from 18th! The more the better really, and 4 is a bit too close for comfort.
Ohio Saint Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Losing to Wigan early in the season is STILL p1ssing me off.
OttawaSaint Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 I meant in terms of points from 18th! The more the better really, and 4 is a bit too close for comfort. But remember it is not just the points gap but ALL the teams that have to pass us to put us in 18th. The chances are miniscule, relax man!
Lighthouse Posted 7 April, 2013 Author Posted 7 April, 2013 If Wigan win later, back to square 1. I see where you're coming from but it's not that bad. We won so we will be better off whatever happens. Worst case scenario we will have... - Dropped Reading and QPR completely out of contention, however unlikely they were to catch us before. - Dropped Stoke 3 points behind. - Gained 2 points on Swansea - Dropped Norwich another 2 points behind - Gained 3 points on Fulham OR dropped Newcastle another 3 behind OR gained 2 points on both of them - Gained 2 points and jumped above West Ham - We've improved our GD relative to Arsenal I'll be honest, I wont be putting too much money on Sunderland holding on to their lead either. I reckon draw. It also mean time is running out for the scenario to change. The teams below us now only have 6 games to pull it back.
Saintandy666 Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 But remember it is not just the points gap but ALL the teams that have to pass us to put us in 18th. The chances are miniscule, relax man! That's very true. We'd have to do worse than 7 other teams. Still, it's possible, if unlikely given current form. I accept I may have been being a little bit pessimistic!
Ohio Saint Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Funny, in the past I have ALWAYS worried until mathematical certainty. Not this time..........I'm actually starting to wonder if I miss the relegation battles to the last day like we used to have.
Chez Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 (edited) Losing to Wigan early in the season is STILL p1ssing me off. Wigan were first class in the second half and deserved their victory. With Kone they are a different side. The Swansea and Norwich home games are the ones that bug me most. We murdered Swansea and threw it away. Norwich, we obviously conceded a woeful goal. They would never have scored otherwise and we would have won. Edited 7 April, 2013 by Chez
shurlock Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Losing to Wigan early in the season is STILL p1ssing me off. The Wigan draw away was worse - we were poor in the home fixture and they were good value in the second half.
Ohio Saint Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Wigan were first class in the second half and deserved their victory. With Kone they are a different side. The Swansea and Norwich home games are the ones that bug me most. We murdered Swansea and threw it away. Norwich we conceded a woeful goal. They would never have scored to oterwise and we would have won. I was referring mainly to the points loss. They played well in the 2nd half for sure, but we still had the players and ability to do better......Ah well, sewage under the fatpipes and all that..
Ohio Saint Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 As much as I love red and white stripes, teams that wear them always seem to be on the losing side.
Lighthouse Posted 7 April, 2013 Author Posted 7 April, 2013 Wigan have trips to Man City, West Ham, WBA and Arsenal. Being fairly realistic I'd say 2 points from that, possibly a win at one of the 'West' clubs. They also have Swansea Spuds and Villa at home. I'd have a guess at 5 points from that. I'll go out on a limb and say we have to lose all our remaining games to go down if QPR won today. Still want a draw really.
Ohio Saint Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Come on QPR! Don't waste your typing fingers. Wigan will survive.
Chez Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 I was referring mainly to the points loss. They played well in the 2nd half for sure, but we still had the players and ability to do better......Ah well, sewage under the fatpipes and all that.. I think we underestimated them as a set of fans. They had won a shed load of games at the end of the previous season and teas do carry form across with them to the new season. It was a tough game and we had no right to think we would waltz it. The same could be said any Prem game. All teams have quality players that can hurt you on their day. Come on Chelsea/QPR...
Ohio Saint Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 With Cech's headgear, Torre's face mask, Chelsea are half way to making their own Batman!!
trousers Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 With Cech's headgear, Torre's face mask, Chelsea are half way to making their own Batman!! Rafa = The Penguin...?
Ohio Saint Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 I think we underestimated them as a set of fans. . Very true, and I think we are still underestimating them. This is their part of the season to come good, which is why I think they will survive.
VectisSaint Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Wigan were first class in the second half and deserved their victory. No they weren't, they were truly awful but managed to score twice (the second one didn't matter but was awful by Fonte). I still think Wigan that day were a disgrace to the PL, and we lost to them.
Ohio Saint Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 How did Chelse not score there? Are they playing Guly?
trousers Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Zamora karate kicks Wigan player's head! That's gotta be a red...
Lighthouse Posted 7 April, 2013 Author Posted 7 April, 2013 Harry must be delighted, that's his excuse for anything that happens sorted already.
Jimmy_D Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Don't think he was intentionally trying to kick him in the head, but the ref had no choice there.
shurlock Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Needless but deserved sending off. Wigan lucking out again.
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 I'm hopeless with maths - when is the soonest QPR or Reading can be relegated?
Ohio Saint Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 I'm hopeless with maths - when is the soonest QPR or Reading can be relegated? I'm crap at maths too, so I'm just gonna guess at last week
Lighthouse Posted 7 April, 2013 Author Posted 7 April, 2013 I'm hopeless with maths - when is the soonest QPR or Reading can be relegated? If Wigan win they will be 10 points off safety with 18 to play for. So in 2 games time I think.
mcjwills Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Well thats QPR's leading goalscorer missing for 3 games, time to resign Harry, or its another relegation on your CV.
markr27 Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Well thats QPR's leading goalscorer missing for 3 games, time to resign Harry, or its another relegation on your CV. What do you mean another relegation? There's been nothing in the papers about that...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 If Wigan win they will be 10 points off safety with 18 to play for. So in 2 games time I think. Simples!
Ohio Saint Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Chelsea are playing a crap team at home and still don't look as good as Saints in the last few games. I'm not worried about relegation for NEXT season at the moment.
trousers Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Newcastle take the lead. 3rd minute of injury time FFS
Ohio Saint Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Newcastle take the lead. 3rd minute of injury time FFS I'm happy with that. I'm looking up
Sheaf Saint Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 If Wigan win they will be 10 points off safety with 18 to play for. So in 2 games time I think. Not quite. They will still only be 8 points behind Sunderland (barring a miraculous injury-time comeback in their game at Chelsea.)
trousers Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 FT: Chelsea 2 Sunderland 1 FT: Newcastle 1 Fulham 0
Mattio Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Townsend looks decent down that right wing, would he be worth a punt next season?
Lighthouse Posted 7 April, 2013 Author Posted 7 April, 2013 Not quite. They will still only be 8 points behind Sunderland (barring a miraculous injury-time comeback in their game at Chelsea.) Being above Sunderland would only put you 18th. Safety would be Villa on 33.
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