CB Fry Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 Fanciful I know. But would be quite funny to see them fall through the trap door after a three nil hammering from us while Villa and Wigan play out a "convenient" draw elsewhere. Non entity club based in an utter toilet. Derserve a little stint back down in the Champ. We can give Kenwynne a little wave on his way down too.
Dalek2003 Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 Fanciful I know. But would be quite funny to see them fall through the trap door after a three nil hammering from us while Villa and Wigan play out a "convenient" draw elsewhere. Non entity club based in an utter toilet. Derserve a little stint back down in the Champ. We can give Kenwynne a little wave on his way down too. Are we safe yet ? Not being funny, but let's not gloat just yet !
CB Fry Posted 6 April, 2013 Author Posted 6 April, 2013 Are we safe yet ? Not being funny, but let's not gloat just yet ! Yes we are safe. Next.
John Boy Saint Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 What a nasty attack of Schadenfreude! I would have thought Newcastle would be a bit of a giggle!
Saint_Ash Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 They were my tip at the start of the season as they're just awful. They've had their time and now its time for better footballing sides to take their place. I would be pleased to see them down, alas I don't think it'll happen. I'll make do with Sunderland though.
Dig Dig Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 The Stoke model is one we should have been aspiring to all along
Glasgow_Saint Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 Are we safe yet ? Not being funny, but let's not gloat just yet ! We are safe, i can guarantee that
shurlock Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 Fanciful I know. But would be quite funny to see them fall through the trap door after a three nil hammering from us while Villa and Wigan play out a "convenient" draw elsewhere. Non entity club based in an utter toilet. Derserve a little stint back down in the Champ. We can give Kenwynne a little wave on his way down too. Changing your tune CB? Only a couple of months ago, you were calling them a model football club, one we should be emulating and aspiring to :lol: Dear oh dear. In your words, are you on crack?
Sheaf Saint Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 We are safe, i can guarantee that Yes so can I, because I just put £10 on at 100/1 for us to go down and I never win my bets.
trousers Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 Yes so can I, because I just put £10 on at 100/1 for us to go down and I never win my bets. 100/1 ? FFS... I only got 33/1 a few days ago ...
Olallana Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 100/1 ? FFS... I only got 33/1 a few days ago ... why does the odds matter on a failed bet?
Dalek2003 Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 Changing your tune CB? Only a couple of months ago, you were calling them a model football club, one we should be emulating and aspiring to :lol: Dear oh dear. In your words, are you on crack? Hahahaha ! CBFRY, Saintswebs Mr Knowitall becomes Mr Knowheswrong !
Gis Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 and to think that there was talk of Pullis coming in as Saints manager a few years ago. I reckon Stoke fans may celebrate relegation as a chance to get back to some football.
Lighthouse Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 Are we safe yet ? Not being funny, but let's not gloat just yet ! Well we would be if we beat Stoke on the last day of the season. Would be a shame to be safe before then, I want us on the pitch 3 years in a row.
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 No we are not ! Still sticking to your bizarre "Yoyo" theory then?
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 Fanciful I know. But would be quite funny to see them fall through the trap door after a three nil hammering from us while Villa and Wigan play out a "convenient" draw elsewhere. Non entity club based in an utter toilet. Derserve a little stint back down in the Champ. We can give Kenwynne a little wave on his way down too. You are not wrong in saying Stoke is an utter toilet. One of the biggest ****holes in the UK. Dire.
Andre Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 Would be interesting, but I'd rather QPR, Reading and Newcastle go down.
St Chalet Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 Lets get 100% safe before crowing over sending anyone else down.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 Would love them to go down. Their football is just disgusting.
Crab Lungs Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 We can give Kenwynne a little wave on his way down too. That would be absolutely brilliant.
View From The Top Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 Living in Staffordshire means I've had plenty of clayheads saying how they were going to relegate us at SMS. Now they are seriously worried that we'll be doing it to them. They are a well run club, which has an excellent community set up, but their brand of football is awful and many have had enough of it.
IOWSaintDaz Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 Pity we can't send all of those teams down but a must for me personally is QPR (for obvious reasons) Reading (They don't belong here) and Stoke (Cos they have been in the Prem long enough and need to produce their own players and stop nicking ours)
corky morris Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 If you look at their squad you think they should be top half. I looked at heir bench today & it's full of Internationals. I can see Pullis leaving at the end of the season.
melmacian_saint Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 Hoping we can sort ourselves out sooner rather than later so that after so many months of looking over our shoulder we can fully act as final judges for both them and Sunderland (though I think they will be fine now with Di Canios energy?). Would love to see teams ****ting their pants over games with us after months of patronizing and underestimating talk.
Matthew Le God Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 If you look at their squad you think they should be top half. Really? How many of their players would you put in the Saints best XI? Huth, Shawcross and Begovic perhaps? Little else.
shurlock Posted 6 April, 2013 Posted 6 April, 2013 If you look at their squad you think they should be top half. I looked at heir bench today & it's full of Internationals. I can see Pullis leaving at the end of the season. Not surprising given that over the past few seasons they've had the 3rd most expensive team in the league on net spend.
niceandfriendly Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Really? How many of their players would you put in the Saints best XI? Huth, Shawcross and Begovic perhaps? Little else. Agree, for the money they've spent over the last few years they've got a quite horrible squad. They bought so much dross. Was cheering Villa on yesterday as I'd love Stoke to go down. Their performance yesterday was one of the worst I've seen in a long time.
Daren W Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Agree, for the money they've spent over the last few years they've got a quite horrible squad. They bought so much dross. Was cheering Villa on yesterday as I'd love Stoke to go down. Their performance yesterday was one of the worst I've seen in a long time. How many players did Villa have on goal for their third? Shocking defending. Agree totally with the op. stoke are a club that has pretty much ruined every game they've played in. Wouldn't miss them at all if hey went own...
ericofarabia Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 After all that we have been through in the not too distant past, I wouldn't take great joy at sending any team down on the last day of the season. Of all the teams below us, I don't have any real preference who goes down in 18th spot, with the exception of Newcastle and Wigan staying up. Wigan, because when in UK it is the nearest ground to my home, so an easy trip and Newcastle as I have several good friends who follow them everywhere. I think I'd have a little smirk if WHU went down but it ain't gonna happen.
georgeweahscousin Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 After all that we have been through in the not too distant past, I wouldn't take great joy at sending any team down on the last day of the season. This. Except QPR. And not because of the club, but their myth of a manager.
pap Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 I'll go with what Pap says on this matter.... Now now, trousers; if I were to rip into someone to pieces every time they had an inexplicable u-turn of opinion, I'd never bring anyone around to my way of thinking. I therefore welcome CB Fry's new stance on Stoke. They're sh!t, ain't they, CB?
sir woody Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Fanciful I know. But would be quite funny to see them fall through the trap door after a three nil hammering from us while Villa and Wigan play out a "convenient" draw elsewhere. Non entity club based in an utter toilet. Derserve a little stint back down in the Champ. We can give Kenwynne a little wave on his way down too. Why would you wish this on any club ?
Toomer Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 For no other reason other than being the father of a shilt player we had on our books.
pap Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Why would you wish this on any club ? Now that CB Fry and I are aligned on this issue, I feel I can answer for him. Stoke are not a well-liked team because of the way they play football. For years, they got away with it because well, they were from Stoke and no-one expected them to be around for very long anyway. After surviving, they got away with it for a bit more, gaining the informal label of "plucky Stoke" in the process. Finally, someone with a calculator added up all the money they've spent, and said "hang on a moment! Stoke spend more than most teams in the League! Why do they play this sh!te?!! Why must they hurt our eyes?". The reason is simple. Pulis is the only thing that has ever worked for Stoke in the Prem. Who needs a plan B when you've got Tony P? Much like Reading, the team was built around a certain brand of football and certain types of players. I'm guessing that the Stoke board have the attitude "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", whereas a good number of football fans think "If it ain't Stoke, I'll watch it". I can't honestly say I've got that much sympathy with the Stoke City fans on this one either. For years, they've been happy to win ugly if it meant retaining Premiership status. They know they're watching sh!t. They should not be too surprised if it gets flushed, although my personal preference would be for them to scrape survival, sack Pulis and get someone in to play better football.
Danish Saint Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 No! I think this sort of thing is in the mind of small and petty. We shouldn't even consider the "Schadenfreude" in others misery....
pap Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 (edited) No! I think this sort of thing is in the mind of small and petty. We shouldn't even consider the "Schadenfreude" in others misery.... Then why even bother with relegation my Danish friend? It's part and parcel of our footballing culture. It's what separates us from the beasts in the MLS, where the only requirement to be a team in the top tier is a big pile of cash. Edited 7 April, 2013 by pap
westmidlandsaint Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 If I could automatically relegate one team from the premier league it would be Stoke, cannot stand them, **** football with a rat of a manager, I'd love it if we relegated them
adrian lord Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 No we are not ! I think the yoyo strategy is coming apart at the seams though....!
raucebysaint Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Don't think we should be so cocky !! No i wouldn't wish that on any club, many have short memories to how it feels to go down and down again. We could still be needing a result from the Stoke game so lets not p*ss off our opponents before we actually cross the line.
Graffito Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 I posted this last month. I might post it again should it come to pass and I'll quietly forget about it if it doesn't: "I did the BBC predictor and had us finishing 10th. Perhaps a bit optimistic but I think we'll finish higher than 442 does. I see that 5 of Stoke's last eight are against sides below them. You can look at this either way. That this gives them an easier run. On the other hand should they lose some of those games they could be dragged right into it. They play Sunderland, Norwich, QPR, Villa as well as Saints. Their other games are against Everton, Manu and Tottenham. Could our final game of the season be a crucial one but not, as 442 see it, for us, but for Stoke? I had them staying up, just, but their recent form is not good."
CB Fry Posted 7 April, 2013 Author Posted 7 April, 2013 (edited) Now that CB Fry and I are aligned on this issue, I feel I can answer for him. Stoke are not a well-liked team because of the way they play football. For years, they got away with it because well, they were from Stoke and no-one expected them to be around for very long anyway. After surviving, they got away with it for a bit more, gaining the informal label of "plucky Stoke" in the process. Finally, someone with a calculator added up all the money they've spent, and said "hang on a moment! Stoke spend more than most teams in the League! Why do they play this sh!te?!! Why must they hurt our eyes?". The reason is simple. Pulis is the only thing that has ever worked for Stoke in the Prem. Who needs a plan B when you've got Tony P? Much like Reading, the team was built around a certain brand of football and certain types of players. I'm guessing that the Stoke board have the attitude "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", whereas a good number of football fans think "If it ain't Stoke, I'll watch it". I can't honestly say I've got that much sympathy with the Stoke City fans on this one either. For years, they've been happy to win ugly if it meant retaining Premiership status. They know they're watching sh!t. They should not be too surprised if it gets flushed, although my personal preference would be for them to scrape survival, sack Pulis and get someone in to play better football. Stoke have a rich local owner who genuinely wants the best for the club. And they've stuck with a manager and a foemula that gas worked for them. And they have a healthy regard for their history and are a genuine community club in their toilet of a community. But their football is sh ite and they spend too much on mediocre has beens. Fu ck 'em. Edited 7 April, 2013 by CB Fry
Danish Saint Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 Then why even bother with relegation my Danish friend? It's part and parcel of our footballing culture. It's what separates us from the beasts in the MLS, where the only requirement to be a team in the top tier is a big pile of cash. In my view, this has nothing to do with relegation as such. It has more to do with hubris. We've just surfaced after the worst years in history. We're not even mathematically safe yet, and already we're gloating in the misery of others. Relegation is no laughing matter for those involved. It's a bit like laughing at the drowning kid. Also, these things have a tendency of coming back to bite you in the a*se when you least expect it. Having supporting Saints for all these years, I'm afraid of jinxing even the slightest bit of good fortune we have.
pap Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 In my view, this has nothing to do with relegation as such. It has more to do with hubris. We've just surfaced after the worst years in history. We're not even mathematically safe yet, and already we're gloating in the misery of others. Relegation is no laughing matter for those involved. It's a bit like laughing at the drowning kid. Also, these things have a tendency of coming back to bite you in the a*se when you least expect it. Having supporting Saints for all these years, I'm afraid of jinxing even the slightest bit of good fortune we have. I've seen my team relegated twice. It isn't a laughing matter, but it isn't the end of the world either, and certainly not on a par with chuckling away while a kid drowns, or even a bit like it. If relegation is so bad, perhaps we should ban it altogether so no-one gets upset.
Daren W Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 In my view, this has nothing to do with relegation as such. It has more to do with hubris. We've just surfaced after the worst years in history. We're not even mathematically safe yet, and already we're gloating in the misery of others. Relegation is no laughing matter for those involved. It's a bit like laughing at the drowning kid. Also, these things have a tendency of coming back to bite you in the a*se when you least expect it. Having supporting Saints for all these years, I'm afraid of jinxing even the slightest bit of good fortune we have. I can see where you're coming from on this... But Stoke are one of those clubs that game-wise I just don't get. It's been pointed out on here that it's a myth that they're "plucky Stoke," they've spent a lot of money on some very average players, played some decidedly ugly football and generally do little to enhance the league. That said I can think of several teams I'd like relegated above them. Reading, their fans are an absolute joke. Leaving after 75 minutes, waving back at us when we sang "cheerio" and generally being pretty ****.. QPR, need I say more Wigan, considering the money that Whelan has pumped into the club, their attendances are pathetic. You're in the Premiership, act as if it means something.. West Ham, just carrying on from last season, you're not a big club. Stop acting as if you are. Oh and Allardyce is the anti christ.
david in sweden Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 The Stoke model is one we should have been aspiring to all along .....you mean securing a good League spot.. by signing all those former Saints stars from 7 years ago ? Most of them have left the Stoke club now and they are finding their true level.
Danish Saint Posted 7 April, 2013 Posted 7 April, 2013 I've seen my team relegated twice. It isn't a laughing matter, but it isn't the end of the world either, and certainly not on a par with chuckling away while a kid drowns, or even a bit like it. If relegation is so bad, perhaps we should ban it altogether so no-one gets upset. Relegation is not bad, as long as it isn't Saints being relegated Just don't think we need to dwell on the misery of others, but rather enjoy our own good fortunes.
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