Glasgow_Saint Posted 21 May, 2013 Author Posted 21 May, 2013 We should just buy Burnley's best player ever year........ Fox then Jrod now Charlie
Tokyo-Saint Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 We should just buy Burnley's best player ever year........ Fox then Jrod now Charlie Good idea. We'll call it 'the Southampton way'.
SuperSAINT Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 What's the latest with Tom Ince, is he still Liverpool bound? Liverpool or Spurs, I'd imagine. Blackpool activated a 1 year contract extension in his contract.
tajjuk Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 That Austin link is probably just agent generated. Can't believe we'd be interested now, got a feeling we'll be looking more into the European market and international level players rather than championship players. If we wanted Austin, we could save our bucks and keep Sharp instead! I rate them both as pretty much similar level players. It's probably a link left over from the Adkins reign. Would be staggered if we sign any Champ players this summer. Whilst I agree somewhat I think that's a bit harsh on Austin. He's a goalscorer and has done it at every level, people said Lambert couldn't do it but he has so there is no reason why Austin couldn't. He's also only 23, so could improve even more whereas Sharp is about as good as he's going to be.
SuperSAINT Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 Whilst I agree somewhat I think that's a bit harsh on Austin. He's a goalscorer and has done it at every level, people said Lambert couldn't do it but he has so there is no reason why Austin couldn't. He's also only 23, so could improve even more whereas Sharp is about as good as he's going to be. Not seen much of Austin recently. Can he play as a lone-striker up top? He always struck me as the poacher of a 2-man strike force. (And TBF, I think we've already purchased the best striker Burnley had).
Saint_clark Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 Not seen much of Austin recently. Can he play as a lone-striker up top? He always struck me as the poacher of a 2-man strike force. (And TBF, I think we've already purchased the best striker Burnley had). Don't know much about the rest of his talents, but possible he could play as one of the three behind the striker. Fwiw, i don't believe we're interested in him.
Saint Charlie Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 Don't know much about the rest of his talents, but possible he could play as one of the three behind the striker. Fwiw, i don't believe we're interested in him. He couldn't. He is a very good finisher but his all round game is nowhere near Rodriguez for example. Austin is the kind of striker where if he isnt scoring he doesn't offer much else, similar to Sharp in that sense.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 21 May, 2013 Author Posted 21 May, 2013 Saints have had scouts watching Austin since Xmas
UpweySaint Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 Saints have had scouts watching Austin since Xmas Just on weekends or is this a twenty four seven routine?
Lighthouse Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 If Austin were to sign for another Premier League club, I would bet 3 of my testicles he scores against us again next season. He did come across as a complete helmet when he scored for Swindon against us.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 21 May, 2013 Author Posted 21 May, 2013 Just on weekends or is this a twenty four seven routine? Saints are now very big on the 'Southampton values' so personalities, behaviours ect are now as important as ability. Players off-field strengths/weaknesses will be monitored and play a major part in any signing. Saints have recently outlined a new set of values and all players have needed to sign up and agree to abide. In the next few months you will probably here a lot more about Respect, Integrity, service, excellence and stewardship. “RISES” You heard it here 1st!
VectisSaint Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 We should just buy Burnley's best player ever year........ Fox then Jrod now Charlie 50/50 chance of getting a dud then...
Batman Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 Jose Enrique - hcdajfu imho what does your source say?
Glasgow_Saint Posted 21 May, 2013 Author Posted 21 May, 2013 (edited) what does your source say? Nothing on this one Brett, this is my own suggestion. Edited 21 May, 2013 by Glasgow_Saint his name is Brett
UpweySaint Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 Saints are now very big on the 'Southampton values' so personalities, behaviours ect are now as important as ability. Players off-field strengths/weaknesses will be monitored and play a major part in any signing. Saints have recently outlined a new set of values and all players have needed to sign up and agree to abide. In the next few months you will probably here a lot more about Respect, Integrity, service, excellence and stewardship. “RISES” You heard it here 1st! Mm fair point we do seem to do our homework on the sort of characters we bring into the club, something im proud of as a fan. Do wonder how much of it is talk though, often footballing talent seems to rule over a players behaviour. How many footballers have ever recieved more then a ticking off from their clubs for assault/drink driving charges that seem to stalk the game?
Glasgow_Saint Posted 21 May, 2013 Author Posted 21 May, 2013 Mm fair point we do seem to do our homework on the sort of characters we bring into the club, something im proud of as a fan. Do wonder how much of it is talk though, often footballing talent seems to rule over a players behaviour. How many footballers have ever recieved more then a ticking off from their clubs for assault/drink driving charges that seem to stalk the game? Guly has been limited to a few substitute appearances since his drink driving escapades. He was also heavily fined by the club and given a final written warning. By all accounts the club are looking at his exit this summer – not exclusively because of his drink driving shame, but this didn’t help.
UpweySaint Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 Guly has been limited to a few substitute appearances since his drink driving escapades. He was also heavily fined by the club and given a final written warning. By all accounts the club are looking at his exit this summer – not exclusively because of his drink driving shame, but this didn’t help. Ahah he was one of the ones I was thinking of. My point, I suppose I have one somewhere, is that behaviour is subjective and a football club will struggle to define what it considers bad behaviour and how it deals with it. For example a club policy would be difficult to apply to star names should the manager also disagree with any punishment.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 Zarate - £7m Wanyama - £10m Capel - £4m Astori - £7m Done.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 21 May, 2013 Author Posted 21 May, 2013 Ahah he was one of the ones I was thinking of. My point, I suppose I have one somewhere, is that behaviour is subjective and a football club will struggle to define what it considers bad behaviour and how it deals with it. For example a club policy would be difficult to apply to star names should the manager also disagree with any punishment. good point well made. 2 reputation points
Olallana Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 Zarate - £7m Wanyama - £10m Capel - £4m Astori - £7m Done. Can we switch Zarate for Lopez? Otherwise I´m with you, and perhaps Gamez for £2.5m. (has seen that figure somewhere)
Chez Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 Saints have had scouts watching Austin since Xmas I thought he looked the better striker when we last played Burnley. He was a handful despite the service to him being terrible. I think he'd score goals at any level. Much prefer him to Sharp. Doesn't feel like a signing we will make though. I just can't see us buying championship players. Under Adkins maybe, but I would have thought we'd try to use MP's inside knowledge of Spanish football while we can to try and get another Michu gem.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 Can we switch Zarate for Lopez? Otherwise I´m with you, and perhaps Gamez for £2.5m. (has seen that figure somewhere) I really like Zarate, but to be honest they're very similar players. Yep, add Gamez and that's £30.5m spent and looking good for next season.
Chez Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 Zarate - £7m Wanyama - £10m Capel - £4m Astori - £7m Done. Would Wanyama leave Celtic for us? Without going into the whole Scottish football, Celtic bigger than Saints thing, wouldn't he want Champions league football or as close to it as possible? I've only seen him twice (in the CL) and he looked Celtic's stand out player in both games.
Chez Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 I really like Zarate, but to be honest they're very similar players. he was bloody great for Brum. Not sure he's been scoring too many in the last couple of seasons though.
Olallana Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 I really like Zarate, but to be honest they're very similar players. Yep, add Gamez and that's £30.5m spent and looking good for next season. Yep they are. I also think Zarate has the attributes but I thought he would´ve gone further in his career than he has, somewhere it´s something missing, dont know if it´s his mentality or just that he hasn´t found the perfect club and setup for him? What can we get in for the players we might offload..... £2m for Sharp? £0.5m each for Chaplow, Guly, Fox and De Ridder? Another £4m gem in your head?
UpweySaint Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 good point well made. 2 reputation points Two? Generous, even I lost track of my trail of thought Be interesting to see the values and code of conduct system come into place either way! Either way back to HCDAJU ... I'l throw in the usual one that comes up, Buckley at Brighton. I know he's signed a contract long term and some on here have suggested we wont look at the championship too much but, with all the chaos going on a Brighton recently, he may yet be an acheivable target and, imo, could do a job in a few different positions for us.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 21 May, 2013 Author Posted 21 May, 2013 Two? Generous, even I lost track of my trail of thought Be interesting to see the values and code of conduct system come into place either way! Either way back to HCDAJU ... I'l throw in the usual one that comes up, Buckley at Brighton. I know he's signed a contract long term and some on here have suggested we wont look at the championship too much but, with all the chaos going on a Brighton recently, he may yet be an acheivable target and, imo, could do a job in a few different positions for us. we were linked with him in december > http://www.ftbpro.com/posts/rob.peterson/95206/southampton-eye-brighton-hove-albion-winger-will-buckley
shurlock Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 Zarate - £7m Wanyama - £10m Capel - £4m Astori - £7m Done. Would rather have Lens than Capel, though they play on different sides. Our right hand side seems to be a bigger issue which is another argument for Lens.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 Yep they are. I also think Zarate has the attributes but I thought he would´ve gone further in his career than he has, somewhere it´s something missing, dont know if it´s his mentality or just that he hasn´t found the perfect club and setup for him? What can we get in for the players we might offload..... £2m for Sharp? £0.5m each for Chaplow, Guly, Fox and De Ridder? Another £4m gem in your head? Well, I'll have a think. Would love Wilfried Bony from Vitesse Arnham, but think he'd be a little bit expensive (£10m+). Mehdi Carcela at Anzhi, on and off the bench for them. Lamine Sane... I like Hiroshi Kiyotake as well, not sure how much he'd cost.
Olallana Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 Well, I'll have a think. Would love Wilfried Bony from Vitesse Arnham, but think he'd be a little bit expensive (£10m+). Mehdi Carcela at Anzhi, on and off the bench for them. Lamine Sane... I like Hiroshi Kiyotake as well, not sure how much he'd cost. Bony, yes please. Haven´t seen much of Carcela so cant say anything about him. Lamine Sane is a big maybe for me, think he loses his focus during games a bit too much. Kiyotake not a bad player but put that money in wages to Honda instead Maybe that weird rumour about Gabriel Torje the other week for me.... Cerci from Torino and there are some players that probably will leave Palermo like Ilicic and Dybala......Poli in Sampdoria.....Paloschi in Chievo... Brain will melt this summer....
MerceSaint28 Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 Im not convinced we are gonna go after Austin. I think the scouting remit has changed since Poch's arrival and we will be seeing him stamp his own mark on the team... As i mentioned i have heard very strong links to Aspas...but wouldn't be surprised if we went after the likes of Vela, Dos Santos, Griezmann...and maybe Moreno or Forlin from Espanyol
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 Some good, kinda under the radar players being talked about here
MerceSaint28 Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 i would be happy with Astori or Ogbanna at centre half, Naingollan or Wanyama in defensive midfield...would love a playmaker like Honda (available for around £4mill) as well Definitely think that Lens is a great shout for the wing position...Zarate (has he been linked?) is a good player and Aspas (strongly linked) would also be a good striker acquisition... Other than that i think we need a cover right back and left back...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 i would be happy with Astori or Ogbanna at centre half, Naingollan or Wanyama in defensive midfield...would love a playmaker like Honda (available for around £4mill) as well Definitely think that Lens is a great shout for the wing position...Zarate (has he been linked?) is a good player and Aspas (strongly linked) would also be a good striker acquisition... Other than that i think we need a cover right back and left back... Surely Honda isn't available for that much. If he is then we should definitely try for him. Cheeky £12m bid for Dzagoev as well
MerceSaint28 Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 I think Honda's deal runs out in December this year so they will be looking to get a fee and £4mill has been mooted or losing him on a free...would sell a lot of shirts but the boy can play too
Olallana Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 Some good, kinda under the radar players being talked about here Something is wrong with this thread at the moment since we´re discussing players and football at the moment...
Olallana Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 I think Honda's deal runs out in December this year so they will be looking to get a fee and £4mill has been mooted or losing him on a free...would sell a lot of shirts but the boy can play too Correct!
Cabrone Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 An audacious bid for 23 y.o midfield general Kevin Strootman would cause a stir. If the club want top 6 then that's the calibre they need.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 21 May, 2013 Author Posted 21 May, 2013 An audacious bid for 23 y.o midfield general Kevin Strootman would cause a stir. If the club want top 6 then that's the calibre they need. agreed - top player but can we really compete with Man Utd on players just yet?
UpweySaint Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 I suppose there is no question Honda is a talented player and I think it is likely he has the strength for the premiership but that leaves us with A) Would he come to us for a reasonable wage? B) Where would he fit into our existing tactic? C) Who else might beat us to the punch? We offer plenty as a club but i'd be surprised if we could beat off international competition for the lad ... then again I, and others, were shocked we were able to attract Ramirez ...
Olallana Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 agreed - top player but can we really compete with Man Utd on players just yet? Didn´t we let them have Büttner? And now this turn the player is ours
Glasgow_Saint Posted 21 May, 2013 Author Posted 21 May, 2013 Didn´t we let them have Büttner? And now this turn the player is ours Think we let Büttner slip throw our fingers
hypochondriac Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 I suppose there is no question Honda is a talented player and I think it is likely he has the strength for the premiership but that leaves us with A) Would he come to us for a reasonable wage? B) Where would he fit into our existing tactic? C) Who else might beat us to the punch? We offer plenty as a club but i'd be surprised if we could beat off international competition for the lad ... then again I, and others, were shocked we were able to attract Ramirez ... I think it's conceivable that Cortese could beat off numerous rivals.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 I think it's conceivable that Cortese could beat off numerous rivals. Do you have any photographic evidence of this?
SuperMikey Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 Do you have any photographic evidence of this? I think Nicola could beat off all comers if it meant us getting the right man in. With a steely determination, I think he would really go for it until the bitter end.
hypochondriac Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 If we can beat off international competition then we can beat off anyone. If we could choose one chairman who is the master at beating off then Cortese would be that man.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 I would like to dedicate my last post to bearsy. I know a joke about Cortese beating off men is what he would have wanted.
Window Cleaner Posted 21 May, 2013 Posted 21 May, 2013 RIP Bearsy. You're doing him proud Tokyos. why ? has he topped himself because he couldn't overcome his forum addiction when banned ?
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