DuncanRG Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 He's on £2.6mill a year according to google, isn't that half of what Osvaldo would be? For what we be arguably the best player to ever play in the prem. He's only 33, not that old. He's nowhere near fit enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 So if you were in his position and TF was agreeing to spend money you wouldnt be taking him up on the offer and filling the team with players who personally I think are going to do v well in the NPC ? I thought that QPR have done remarkably well in reducing their salary mass. Far far better than we did back in 2005. They must have offloaded a tidy part of a milion £ a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 I thought that QPR have done remarkably well in reducing their salary mass. Far far better than we did back in 2005. They must have offloaded a tidy part of a milion £ a week. Your not thinking straight Window, you have missed an obvious opportunity to have a pop at Redknapp, shame on you. Agreed though, dumped the big wage primadonnas and picked up some very able players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 He's nowhere near fit enough. Le Tissier wasn't fit, who cares if you're that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Le Tissier wasn't fit, who cares if you're that good. Probably the most technically gifted player I have ever seen but Brazil has seen a revival in him and he still isnt fit enough, a move back to Europe would not be good for him or us. Nor would he be interested. We are looking for a striker though not an attacking midfielder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Your not thinking straight Window, you have missed an obvious opportunity to have a pop at Redknapp, shame on you. Agreed though, dumped the big wage primadonnas and picked up some very able players. I've never had any animosity towards Harry Redknapp, comes of spending 10 years or so in London in the early 70s I guess. Everyone was wheeling and dealing and sh@gging anything that moved. Guess that's why Jimmy Saville's antics leave me totally unphased as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Probably the most technically gifted player I have ever seen but Brazil has seen a revival in him and he still isnt fit enough, a move back to Europe would not be good for him or us. Nor would he be interested. We are looking for a striker though not an attacking midfielder He scored more goals then Damiao the last two seasons. Ronaldinho playing off Lambert would be orgasmic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Your not thinking straight Window, you have missed an obvious opportunity to have a pop at Redknapp, shame on you. Agreed though, dumped the big wage primadonnas and picked up some very able players. In 'Arry's mind, long-term planning means the game after the next round of the League Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 I've never had any animosity towards Harry Redknapp, comes of spending 10 years or so in London in the early 70s I guess. Everyone was wheeling and dealing and sh@gging anything that moved. Guess that's why Jimmy Saville's antics leave me totally unphased as well. Lol fair enough, Ive got no animosity towards him, infact I find it pretty cringey how much he gets vilafied on here, Im fairly confident he would be doing a much better job then Woy with England right now should he have been offered the top job. Lets just say I was closer to the club in those days and although I still have contacts at Staplewood back then I had contacts very close to board level (in fact a manager). I cant really blame Harry for what happened, we were in freefall, and if you heard the crap coming out of the boardroom back then it was damnright scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Le Tissier wasn't fit, who cares if you're that good. Pochettino, probably. He wants them all in top condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Pochettino, probably. He wants them all in top condition. Like Gaston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Tom Ince for £8mill would be a wise investment I reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 (edited) I posted this in the Osvaldo thread but it seems more relevant here. I saw Finnbogason (we were linked with him last week) play last weekend against NAC and although its was a poor match from both sides you could see he was a lot better then all the other players on the pitch. Not sure how much Heerenveen want for him but for about 5 million pounds he certainly worth a shot. Disclaimer: Any "Steve de Ridder" arguments will be ignored by me because de Ridder was never as dominant in the Dutch league as Finnbogason is. If you're claiming that Finnbogason is of a similar level to de Ridder because he comes from the same league and they both were important to their respective teams in the Dutch league then you've not seen both of them play. Edited 16 August, 2013 by Saint Martini Appy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naboo_thats_who Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Not necessarily my preference but I see that Peter Odemwinge hasn't gone anywhere? Could be trouble but proven at this level? If we get the rumours started he could be in St MAry's car park by 3pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 I posted this in the Osvaldo thread but it seems more relevant here. I saw Finnbogason (we were linked with him last week) play last weekend against NAC and although its was a poor match from both sides you could see he was a lot better then all the other players on the pitch. Not sure how much Heerenveen want for him but for about 5 million pounds he certainly worth a shot. Disclaimer: Any "Steve de Ridder" arguments will be ignored by me because de Ridder was never as dominant in the Dutch league as Finnbogason is. If you're comparing Finnbogason and de Ridder you've not seen both of them play. Didn't you just compare them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Quote on the BBC site from Manuel Pellegrini's press conference regarding Scott Sinclair He is here in the squad and he wants to play more and we will see what happens with him today or tomorrow but if he wants to go on loan then we will look into that as there are good players in his way. So could we entice him with a loan to start with (assuming we don't have to pay his full wages)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Is this true that Monaco have transfer listed Falcao due to tax issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Is this true that Monaco have transfer listed Falcao due to tax issues? We should take him on loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Is this true that Monaco have transfer listed Falcao due to tax issues? Word was that unless full tax is paid on all players salaries they would be refused entry to the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 We should take him on loan If Pellegrini's quotes are to be believed I would rather have Sinclair on loan rather than Falcao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 16 August, 2013 If Pellegrini's quotes are to be believed I would rather have Sinclair on loan rather than Falcao Missed the quotes...... what was said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Quote on the BBC site from Manuel Pellegrini's press conference regarding Scott Sinclair He is here in the squad and he wants to play more and we will see what happens with him today or tomorrow but if he wants to go on loan then we will look into that as there are good players in his way. So could we entice him with a loan to start with (assuming we don't have to pay his full wages)? Missed the quotes...... what was said? Only a couple of posts back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Only a couple of posts back doesnt explain why you'd want Sinclair on loan rather than Falcao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 doesnt explain why you'd want Sinclair on loan rather than Falcao Because Sinclair would be wanting to prove a point to Pelligrini whereas Falcao would only be here for tax reasons.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Because Sinclair would be wanting to prove a point to Pelligrini whereas Falcao would only be here for tax reasons.. got ya - I agree mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 (edited) I see Gonzalo Bueno has signed for some Russian or Kazakh club, FC Kuban where's that then ? Must have really fancied a challenge because that must be a really big club. No doubt he'll get a shedload for signing on and want out in about a month's time. Edited 16 August, 2013 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Is this true that Monaco have transfer listed Falcao due to tax issues? they've denied it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 tancredipalmeri: Southampton's target Astori is close to join Napoli from Cagliari, according to Sky Italy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 ''Target'' being quite a loose term, he was a target at one point, but we plumped for Lovren instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 I think Tancredi actually enjoys (a bit over the top I know) tweeting "against" Saints. If anything now it would be a Manchester City target cause that was the latest rumour about Astori and Premier League.... Doesn´t really seems like he ever answer to questions from Saints fans on twitter either anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Tancredi just rips off Di Marzio's tweets. If you follow both its Di Marzio first in Italian then Palmeri 5 mins later in English. Nice little niche he has created for himself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Tancredi just rips off Di Marzio's tweets. If you follow both its Di Marzio first in Italian then Palmeri 5 mins later in English. Nice little niche he has created for himself... True.....well I cant follow Tancredi since he blocked me for asking a cheeky question why journos dont check facts before writing stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Martin Keown http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2395848/Martin-Keown-West-Ham-struggle-Southampton-march-Robin-van-Persie-pressure.html Saints on the march There’s been a lot of focus on the money Norwich have spent but I’ve been impressed by Southampton. Mauricio Pochettino has spent £21m on just two players. Normally clubs outside the top six buy quantity when they part with that much but Pochettino felt he needed quality instead, signing Victor Wanyama from Celtic and Dejan Lovren from Lyon, who both could have been playing Champions League football. They spent very well last summer on Jay Rodriguez, Nathaniel Clyne, Steven Davis and Gaston Ramirez and they have bought well again. They needed an improvement in central defence, which Lovren will give them and Wanyama will give them power in midfield. Add England centre forward Rickie Lambert, tough tackler Morgan Schneiderlin and left-wing axis Adam Lallana and Luke Shaw and you can see them doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 17 August, 2013 Share Posted 17 August, 2013 If Osvaldo does not materialise would Jordan Rhodes be worth a shot? 27 goals from 45 games in the champ is none too shabby. Decent British player - could he have a similar impact at prem level as Ricky did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 17 August, 2013 Share Posted 17 August, 2013 Weirdest rumour this summer? Odemwingie to Napoli.... http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?action=read&idsel=126657 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 17 August, 2013 Share Posted 17 August, 2013 Weirdest rumour this summer? Odemwingie to Napoli.... http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?action=read&idsel=126657 My sawce tells me that Peter has driven down to Napoli and is sitting in his car outside the ground as we speak.. There will no doubt be a dog barking somewhere to drive back to Loftus Road and wait in the car park until Arry is ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 17 August, 2013 If Osvaldo does not materialise would Jordan Rhodes be worth a shot? 27 goals from 45 games in the champ is none too shabby. Decent British player - could he have a similar impact at prem level as Ricky did? Someone said Blackburn want £15m for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 17 August, 2013 Share Posted 17 August, 2013 Someone said Blackburn want £15m for him? That´s a lot of chicken that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 18 August, 2013 Share Posted 18 August, 2013 After Osvaldo signs, would it be greedy for me to request the signing of another top class centre half? Toby Alderweireld would be a fantastic signing, and available for around £7-8m based on Norwich's accepted bid a month or so ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 August, 2013 Share Posted 18 August, 2013 After Osvaldo signs, would it be greedy for me to request the signing of another top class centre half? Toby Alderweireld would be a fantastic signing, and available for around £7-8m based on Norwich's accepted bid a month or so ago. We'll be done once Osvaldo signs, a very productive window if I say so myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 18 August, 2013 Share Posted 18 August, 2013 We'll be done once Osvaldo signs, a very productive window if I say so myself. Yeah, I think that'll be that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted 18 August, 2013 Share Posted 18 August, 2013 We'll be done once Osvaldo signs, a very productive window if I say so myself. Not so sure - still think we will try again for Banega or someone similar We ssem very determined to get who we want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 18 August, 2013 Share Posted 18 August, 2013 Was just having a read through the Mirror's guide to 'who needs what signings' regarding the transfer window.... http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/club-by-club-transfer-window-guide-who-2181748? Under Aston Villa, they mention Georginio Wijnaldum. Always liked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 18 August, 2013 Share Posted 18 August, 2013 After Osvaldo signs, would it be greedy for me to request the signing of another top class centre half? Toby Alderweireld would be a fantastic signing, and available for around £7-8m based on Norwich's accepted bid a month or so ago. We'll be done once Osvaldo signs, a very productive window if I say so myself. Not so sure - still think we will try again for Banega or someone similar We ssem very determined to get who we want Unfortunately I agree with S-Clarke that if we sign Osvaldo, we'll have finished our business but I can't help thinking we're still short on attacking midfield creativity. I still hope we go in for Banega, or someone like him. If we don't get Osvaldo, and go for a cheaper striker, I do think we'll plump for an attacking midfielder anyway. AM is my choice, and while I do think we could utilise another top CB too, that's a position that's covered pretty well for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 August, 2013 Share Posted 18 August, 2013 Unfortunately I agree with S-Clarke that if we sign Osvaldo, we'll have finished our business but I can't help thinking we're still short on attacking midfield creativity. I still hope we go in for Banega, or someone like him. If we don't get Osvaldo, and go for a cheaper striker, I do think we'll plump for an attacking midfielder anyway. AM is my choice, and while I do think we could utilise another top CB too, that's a position that's covered pretty well for now. Id definately like a further AM option in there (we seem to play with a compact 3 with width coming from the fullbacks) but I homestly think if we dont we are ok. We have JWP, Davis, Ramirez, Lallana, J Rod, Punch and the new nippy youngster who's name avoids me at the moment (Ive been raving about him too, begins with I I think) Id still like another one in there but its just greed TBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 18 August, 2013 Share Posted 18 August, 2013 Id definately like a further AM option in there (we seem to play with a compact 3 with width coming from the fullbacks) but I homestly think if we dont we are ok. We have JWP, Davis, Ramirez, Lallana, J Rod, Punch and the new nippy youngster who's name avoids me at the moment (Ive been raving about him too, begins with I I think) Id still like another one in there but its just greed TBH Isgrove. I suppose you're right in that another signing would restrict the chances of youngsters like Isgrove (especially with the positivity surrounding our Academy at the moment) but to bring in the likes of Osvaldo AND Banega - well that would make for a truly brilliant, interesting and exciting season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 August, 2013 Share Posted 18 August, 2013 Christ it's draining on here. Even criticism of Harry Redknapp not getting through today. I'd suggest a better manager wouldn't need to spend to get that squad up, it was ridiculous experienced and talented for that level anyway, as everyone knows. My criticism was his continued insistence that it lacks quality, as he did last year, and every year, and with saints, trying to shift any blame. He's an extremely negative manager in that way. If it were me, I wouldn't do that no. I'd try and actually build a team for the future. Austin was a better signing in that way. To me his promotion style is more Warnock than Adkins or Lambert or Rodgers. To many football fans it's all black and white, they got promoted, they came first etc., but when observing it closely you can see which sides are more likely to do well over a few years. QPR finished well above Norwich and Swansea yet weren't likely to push on because they needed to start over with a new team, and they've been trying it ever since. While the 'lesser' sides of the championship did build for the future, evolved teams properly and prospered. All younger managers who wanted to stick around longer, all were positive and didn't make excuses. But if it prevents another redknapp thread takeover then sorry for my anti-harry post and that it wound you up so much. I said earlier why I dont get the constant criticism of 'arry on here, its cringey and obsessive TBH. As per what he has do e at QPR I think he has done very well, building a team of players that clearly want to prove themselves and want to play in a campaign where they are surely headed for the prem again. He has stripped high earners and gambles such as Cisse, Bosingwa, Remy, Taraabt, Granero, Samba and replaced them with very very good options. I suggest that if you hadnt done the same in his shoes you would be in serious trouble TBH. As per youth, they have only just invested in the academy etc, they just have not the players to bring through so they need to get quality and experience in to compete. If it was not Harry I expect people would be talking about what a decent rebuilding effort he has done but obviously it is happy and so it all goes down to greed etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnick Posted 18 August, 2013 Share Posted 18 August, 2013 I am expecting two signings by the weekend, a striker and a wing man... One may well be a lone deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 August, 2013 Share Posted 18 August, 2013 I am expecting two signings by the weekend, a striker and a wing man... One may well be a lone deal I suspect both will be lone deals. Unless they are done together... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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