Johnny Shearer Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Or possibly Lowe-free and thriving.... Come on. Really? :smt069 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 I was not really bothered who we drew, just so long as it was at home. Never mind, at least now I can plan my holiday in the New Year without worrying about who we might get in the fourth round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Agreed although it should be extended to Members/Anyone WHO can prove they have been to all home games. Up price to £35 for rest Agreed, should fish out the ****s that is our dis-loyal bunch of semi-fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 So "plastic" was not meant as a term of abuse then ? Riiiight.... you should re-name/brand yourself Alps Alpine "plastic fantastic" Saint has a nice ring Your old 'routine' is 100% transparent and boring - new image could be just what you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 On a serious note, it is vital that all fans who HAVE been supporting the team this season are given a fair crack at the tickets over and above the Premiership fans. It would be a travesty if those who have turned out in the wind and rain to see us get stuffed miss out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 And what point was that ? Apart from the obvious "I can urinate higher than you" point ? No - its the I'm a man of principle until suddenly my principles might mean that I miss a mouth-watering match. To those that stand by it then hats off to them even though I disagree with them. Those who don't are being hypocrites. And by the way - this is my last reply to you. I refuse to get involved in one of those endless threads where your replies become more and more convoluted until I completely lose the point of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 So, all those who have been lecturing about "Get behind the team FFS" and "Keep the faith" and "I dont give a shiitt in the boardroom, I am a fan of the club" are now coming out with snide comments because our FA Cup 3rd Round draw is likely to draw a full house. So not only do they lecture others about their lack of attendance, they now feel they have some right to veto which matches people come back for. And despite them counselling about the financial survival of the club, some of them would rather the fair-weather fans didnt turn up so they can continue to wallow in their self-perceived and paid-for positions of moral superiority. You couldnt make it up. Shiit club, shiit fans.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmidlandsaint Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Saints should make fans go to 2 home games to qualify for UTD game. That way the likes of Windmill arms 2 and Alpine who NEVER go to games wont get tickets before genuine fans/supporters And means for people like me and my daughter who live in west midlands but are visiting family in Romsey for New Years wont be able to go coz we cant afford to buy another 4 tickets as well as 2 for Man Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 No - its the I'm a man of principle until suddenly my principles might mean that I miss a mouth-watering match. To those that stand by it then hats off to them even though I disagree with them. Those who don't are being hypocrites. And by the way - this is my last reply to you. I refuse to get involved in one of those endless threads where your replies become more and more convoluted until I completely lose the point of them. Bothered...No, Gutted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Shiit club, shiit fans.... F Off then!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 F Off then!! Not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 30 November, 2008 Author Share Posted 30 November, 2008 So "plastic" was not meant as a term of abuse then ? Riiiight.... What term would sit better with you? So first i was moaning,but that angle didn't suit your cause/argument,so now i'm being abusive:confused:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowestoft-Saint Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 A fantastic draw for SFC in term of revenue, and even better should we get a draw and then a replay up at old trafford (in financial terms). Although it will be great to get a full house at St Mary's its a shame it is only going to happen because of the opposition. I just wonder how many of the so called stay away until lowe & wilde are gone crowd will suddenly forget their pledge... Time to start checking the posts and spotting them as im sure they will slip up in something they say lol.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 A good decent cup draw and you children are sat on here ****ing arguing. Pathetic. Grow up ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 What term would sit better with you? So first i was moaning,but that angle didn't suit your cause/argument,so now i'm being abusive:confused:. Since when are they mutually exclusive ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Great draw, should bring some much needed cash and fans back to SMS - could make the difference between selling/loan one or more od our better players in January. We've got nothing to lose especially as we could just as easily get knocked out by someone like Rotherham given our recent record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 A good decent cup draw and you children are sat on here ****ing arguing. Pathetic. Grow up ffs. I agree completely. There is no down-side to this draw at all. The club wins. It's just a f**king shame certain individuals feel it is cause to score Brownie points about who is a real fan or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 It seems a shame to to focus on the loyal / fairweather fan to be honest (even though I did have a quip myself). To be honest Alpine Saint is at least standing up for himself which you won't see others doing. I mentioned it earlier only because the original argument of stayaways - that they would 'never return whislt Lowe and Wilde were at the club' was so pathetic I don't think anyone really bought it. I don't personally see the term plastic fan as a term of abuse, merely accurate. But whether you are a season ticket or a plastic fan, you should get down to the SMS for this game because you will be impressed by what you see from both teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Just looked up figures on the FA site. We only get 45% of the gate (45% Man Utd, 10% FA). Getting selected for TV makes things better though as £160,000 for a live game, £7,500 highlights and £9,000 for full radio commentary. A replay would come in quite handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 So, all those who have been lecturing about "Get behind the team FFS" and "Keep the faith" and "I dont give a shiitt in the boardroom, I am a fan of the club" are now coming out with snide comments because our FA Cup 3rd Round draw is likely to draw a full house. So not only do they lecture others about their lack of attendance, they now feel they have some right to veto which matches people come back for. And despite them counselling about the financial survival of the club, some of them would rather the fair-weather fans didnt turn up so they can continue to wallow in their self-perceived and paid-for positions of moral superiority. You couldnt make it up. Shiit club, shiit fans.... Even you can see the irony and hypocricy of fans who claim to have been protesting about the Chairmanship of the club and staying away as a result, who rush back at the first chance to see Manchester United?? Or are you really stupid? For me, so long as the hypocrites do not prevent genuine fans attending there is no issue. But some humble pie from the high-moral brigade wouldn't go amiss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Means we will get all the f*cking glory hunters and arm chair fans back. God help us. Yep - I am just waking form my slumber now and pulling on my slippers, bit of a struggle to get up out of a comfy archair now at my age, but should make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR Boy Saint Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Super draw for the young lads. However, I hope that it IS on the telly, not just for the increased TV dosh, but for those of us who are forced to be elsewhere around the world at the time serving Queen and Country and have no hope of making it to SMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 So, all those who have been lecturing about "Get behind the team FFS" and "Keep the faith" and "I dont give a shiitt in the boardroom, I am a fan of the club" are now coming out with snide comments because our FA Cup 3rd Round draw is likely to draw a full house. So not only do they lecture others about their lack of attendance, they now feel they have some right to veto which matches people come back for. And despite them counselling about the financial survival of the club, some of them would rather the fair-weather fans didnt turn up so they can continue to wallow in their self-perceived and paid-for positions of moral superiority. You couldnt make it up. Shiit club, shiit fans.... I'm not advocating to anyone that they should stay away at all due to their stance. I find it funny thats all. As I said earlier it'll hopefully get more people behind the team in the run up to this game. I just don't understand where all your frustration comes from and quite frankly can't comprehend it. I maybe a sh*t fan and follow a sh*t club but hey thats my choice. And yes you could make it up as I'm sure many other clubs have been or going through the same process us as at one point or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Even you can see the irony and hypocricy of fans who claim to have been protesting about the Chairmanship of the club and staying away as a result, who rush back at the first chance to see Manchester United?? Or are you really stupid? For me, so long as the hypocrites do not prevent genuine fans attending there is no issue. But some humble pie from the high-moral brigade wouldn't go amiss... First of all, it hasnt happened yet. Unless the club does the usual database history check, I find it much more likely the ground will be as equally filled by ManYoo fans from Surrey sneaking in to the home areas as fairweather Saints fans. And I reckon the club wont refer to the database because they will want to ensure the ground is full. I keeping reading that the clubs financial survival is paramount; therefore the hypocrisy charge should be trivia. But lo and behold, suddenly its as important.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 I agree completely. There is no down-side to this draw at all. The club wins. It's just a f**king shame certain individuals feel it is cause to score Brownie points about who is a real fan or not. Lets put it this way: If you/TDD/Scabby/sunburnt breast etc actually turn up for this match I will be pleasantly suprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 30 November, 2008 Author Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Since when are they mutually exclusive ? From the moment you are backed into a corner, can't hold a reasoned debate,and you have to change tack to evade answering questions. Anyway,more pressing issues to discuss than answer your'e argumentative drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 On a serious note, it is vital that all fans who HAVE been supporting the team this season are given a fair crack at the tickets over and above the Premiership fans. It would be a travesty if those who have turned out in the wind and rain to see us get stuffed miss out. how about those, who have had a season ticket since they were 4 years old (1994) but havnt got one this year, or been to a game this year because they are studying in a different part of the country and can't afford to travel back??? I will be down over christmas and would love to go to this game, will be attending all games over christmas. have you taken in to consideration that people can't make every game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt SFC Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 No we shouldn't change ticket prices for non-season ticket holders, hardly surprising the ones suggesting this would be unaffected by the change. And what is wrong with this fan base, we get a good draw in the cup and everyone's moaning about one thing or another to do with it. Contradiction after contradiction just beautiful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 COYRs! Sugar mean COYSs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 From the moment you are backed into a corner, can't hold a reasoned debate,and you have to change tack to evade answering questions. Anyway,more pressing issues to discuss than answer your'e argumentative drivel. Really ? I dont feel backed into a corner, though I'd feel pretty stupid about calling fellow fans "plastic" when I am fully aware how desperate for the money the club I claim to love is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 First of all, it hasnt happened yet. Unless the club does the usual database history check, I find it much more likely the ground will be as equally filled by ManYoo fans from Surrey sneaking in to the home areas as fairweather Saints fans. And I reckon the club wont refer to the database because they will want to ensure the ground is full. I keeping reading that the clubs financial survival is paramount; therefore the hypocrisy charge should be trivia. But lo and behold, suddenly its as important.... So that's your view. It doesn't matter if real fans who have attended all season are usurped by those who will attend once this season and then clear off once Burnley and Blackpool come to town? I always knew you held fellow fans in contempt but even for you this is poor, really poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Monkey Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Might have to get along to this game. Will be my first for about a year. I know someone who works at the club, so will probably get my tickets at the same time as the STHs. Whoop whoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 So that's your view. It doesn't matter if real fans who have attended all season are usurped by those who will attend once this season and then clear off once Burnley and Blackpool come to town? I always knew you held fellow fans in contempt but even for you this is poor, really poor. Who is talking about "usurping" ? Do the maths, FFS. Our attendance has been 17,000 or less ALL SEASON, about 5,000 to ManYoo and the ground holds 32,500. And ST holders (the "omnipotent ones") get the chance to have their usual seat. Have just just finished a particularly heavy roast dinner or something ? Mental powers not what they are usually ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adethorne Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Not sure about draw, on one hand its great, I can't wait, a world class squad (notice I didn't say team) probably a full house etc etc but on the other hand, ponder these: 1. WE PLAY BETTER AWAY. 2. Would you rather we get 45% of the receipts at SMS or OT, FA cup rules means 90% of gate is split equally between both teams, other 10% to FA. 3. Yes our youngsters will be up for it BUT will Jan be allowed to play them because they will become cup-tied,( loan players included in that as well as possible sellers) or if they do play and play like we know they can, end up being sold because the tie is so early in January and they'll be putting themselves in the window. 4. Man U get the whole of the Northam, our atmosphere will be blown to all areas of the ground and break up, which is a pity. 5. A draw would be good, because we get more money and an away trip to OT. 6. If we lose at least we have gone out to a top notch outfit, not Notts county, P'boro, Rotherham and Bristol Rovers to name just a few. 7. The smug look on rup's face as his wallet bulges. 8. Or am I being to negative and should I just enjoy the occasion come what may? Whatever happens I will be there as always. COYR's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Might have to get along to this game. Will be my first for about a year. I know someone who works at the club, so will probably get my tickets at the same time as the STHs. Whoop whoop. You know theres rules against baiting, right? Plenty will think you're genuine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Even you can see the irony and hypocricy of fans who claim to have been protesting about the Chairmanship of the club and staying away as a result, who rush back at the first chance to see Manchester United?? Or are you really stupid? For me, so long as the hypocrites do not prevent genuine fans attending there is no issue. But some humble pie from the high-moral brigade wouldn't go amiss... Who says they will be rushing back at the 'first chance'? I won't (but I don't begrudge others if they do). My decision to stay away was about Lowe, whilst he stays nothing has changed. I think you are getting ahead of yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 30 November, 2008 Author Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Really ? I dont feel backed into a corner, though I'd feel pretty stupid about calling fellow fans "plastic" when I am fully aware how desperate for the money the club I claim to love is.... Read the posts properly instead of interpretating them to suit your agenda. Boring. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 I was not really bothered who we drew, just so long as it was at home. Never mind, at least now I can plan my holiday in the New Year without worrying about who we might get in the fourth round. Arsenal in the fourth round would be nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 have you taken in to consideration that people can't make every game? Doesn't fit their "I'm a better fan than you" line of argument Just to show I am consistent, I will not be attending this game. I shall in all likelihood be sat at home, in front of a real fire, watching us lose yet again on TV; screaming abuse at every decision the blatantly biased ref gives in favour of Trafford United, ( as my true blue wife constantly says, there is only one team that plays in Manchester ); heading every clearance, blasting every shot, committing to every tackle, making every dive with KD. I only hope we put in a better performance than our last televised FA Cup match. On the other hand, we do have some 'history'; 6-3, the 'wrong colour shirts' match, the spirit of '76, MLT vs Taibi , revenge for the last game of our last ( 'so far' ) Premiership season. COYR, Pride of the south ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 ffs what is everyones problem. Can't we leave out politics for once. Most clubs would be loving this tie and so should we. Personally I can't wait and really pleased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 F*cking brilliant. If I am not working, I'm travelling down from Glasgow to watch that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Who says they will be rushing back at the 'first chance'? I won't (but I don't begrudge others if they do). My decision to stay away was about Lowe, whilst he stays nothing has changed. I think you are getting ahead of yourself. Fair play for your principles, will be interesting to see how many share your hardcore stance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 After meeting Jan and the boys last night I am pleased that they have got this draw. They will be buzzing and I say good for them. If it is on TV the game WILL NOT sell out so everyone that wants a ticket will get one so can we put to bed this hollow argument please? The comments from some on this thread sadden me and it does feel like there is a discussion going on that has little importance or relevance. Personally I have not yet been to a home game this season. I have my reasons and none of them are a boycott. I am actually in Southampton on the 3rd as I fly back from Edinburgh after New Year’s. Will I go to the game? Probably not! I would rather make the trip down to watch us against Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Should give Lowe a chance to ponce about and look important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Best possible draw IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 i soiled myself at the news and i have soiled myself again at the prospect. Let's hope the players aren't toilet on the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Who is talking about "usurping" ? Do the maths, FFS. Our attendance has been 17,000 or less ALL SEASON, about 5,000 to ManYoo and the ground holds 32,500. And ST holders (the "omnipotent ones") get the chance to have their usual seat. Have just just finished a particularly heavy roast dinner or something ? Mental powers not what they are usually ? There are what 9k ST holders? That means 8k fans (some of whom will be members admittedly) fighting it out with the 25k who will suddenly want to attend to see Ronaldo and will have their finger hovering above redial the moment tickets go on sale. Can we at least agree that people who HAVE been this season should be given a priority over those who have not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 After meeting Jan and the boys last night I am pleased that they have got this draw. They will be buzzing and I say good for them. If it is on TV the game WILL NOT sell out so everyone that wants a ticket will get one so can we put to bed this hollow argument please? The comments from some on this thread sadden me and it does feel like there is a discussion going on that has little importance or relevance. Personally I have not yet been to a home game this season. I have my reasons and none of them are a boycott. I am actually in Southampton on the 3rd as I fly back from Edinburgh after New Year’s. Will I go to the game? Probably not! I would rather make the trip down to watch us against Forest. A game we are more likely to lose given our record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 The last FA Cup third round tie we had on terrestrial TV was when we trounced Spurs 4-0 in what was the most ultimate display of total football I have ever seen. But we have got spanked by Newcastle and humilated by Brissol Rovers on terrestrial TV since then. Can I also predict within half an hour of the final whistle at least six saints fans will be on this forum whinging and *****ing about how biased against Saints the coverage was. Also, the club should bundle the tickets for the game and insist that fans have to buy tickets for at least two other home games in January. Lots of other clubs do it (Derby did it for the Forest game recently) and its the best way to drive as much cash for the club out of our lucky draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatvianTolix Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Oh, noooooo!!!! I wont be able to see it!!! :-( I will be back home in Riga those days. Hope it will be on telly!!! I am soooo dissapointed!!! :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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