Matthew Le God Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 An interesting read... http://www.eplindex.com/29962/epls-underrated-midfields-tactical-stats-comparison-europes-elite.html
pingwing Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 Wow! Quick take it off the internet! "Schneiderlin in particular, has proved this season he could play the role he does for any team in the Premier League and has the quality to play Champions League football and in the near future he can certainly be considered a starting XI player for the French national team." What a conclusion and I don't want to loose him!!!
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 It's a pointless exercise trying to plot positions in the Pochettino system. You can plot a standard 4-2-3-1 as a base formation but the team play so high up the pitch and you can have up to four players chasing the same ball at times which means attempting to attribute positional discipline to our tactics is missing the entire point and principle of how we play in the first place. I'd much prefer to see heat maps of positions of when we have and do not have the ball - that would tell you more.
Saint Garrett Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 Yeah, interesting read. They are simply fantastic.
stevegrant Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 MLG, I'd have thought you of all people would know how to spell Pochettino...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 April, 2013 Author Posted 5 April, 2013 MLG, I'd have thought you of all people would know how to spell Pochettino... I copied and pasted it without checking. Please change the title for me.
saintbob40 Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 So we have a world class centre mid pairing. Get Cork extended pronto! Lets hope they can perform on that cabbage patch of a pitch at Reading.
Charlie Wayman Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 Confirms what we already knew. Other clubs will know all about Le Bleu as well but as long as he is content here he won't move. After all he stayed loyal throughout the lower leagues stints when others of equal talent would have buggered off - except of course that there aren't many others of equal talent. I am sure Lowe brought him in to make money later so we should be glad that he is a million miles away. Hopefully, we'll be bidding for Arsenal players in the close season and really putting the **** up Wenger, what a reversal that would be!
Sour Mash Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 Probably posted elsewhere, but not too bad a read http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/tacticsandanalysis/id/1148?cc=5739
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 Love being proved right. Was banging on about what a class act Morgan was when we were in League 1, and that he was definitely a prem player in the making. Even as one of his biggest fans I didn't see him making such a big impact on the Prem in his first season. At 23, the best of Morgan is yet to come, which is really exciting. Hopefully, that best is in a Saints shirt!
SuperSAINT Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 Great article. Really is an interesting read. (The MLG typo is also a bonus)
Doctoroncall Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 Nice bit of analysis. Thanks for that. It make the WBA match more of an interesting match, to see how the two sets of CMs try to dominate.
dinger Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 Probably posted elsewhere, but not too bad a read http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/tacticsandanalysis/id/1148?cc=5739 "Reading and Southampton are similar clubs in terms of status" Harrumph!
Convict Colony Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 Some more on the Bleacher report - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1593564-mauricio-pochettino-how-his-tactics-at-southampton-are-taking-out-the-big-boys
shurlock Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 (edited) Looks like we 2-4-3-1/3-4-3 at times! Those graphics show not only the importance of Cork and Morgan but also Clyne and Shaw. They are our main source of width and get very little protection (Cork is deployed to sweep up). They are as, if not more important than Cork and Morgan. It also shows how we can get beat. Liverpool and Chelsea looked dangerous when they switched the ball quickly from one flank to the other to take advantage of our narrowness and tendency of our players to drift inside to press. Don't know if Reading have the players to do that. Edited 5 April, 2013 by shurlock
ant Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 EPL Index is a class act when it comes to stats analysis. Bit like seeing your 'secret sauce' recipe released to the world though!
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 just shows how lucky we are to have him!! Nicola for finding him
Olallana Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 just shows how lucky we are to have him!! Nicola for finding him *coughs* Dont forget Lowe
Saint Garrett Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 Our front sweeper is Cork. Although I think Richardson or Seaborne would be better suited to this role...
Convict Colony Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 Boooommmm Article to accompany above diagram with same commentary as most of the above. http://footballspeak.com/post/2012/02/01/Marcelo-Bielsa-An-Enigma.aspx
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 Our front sweeper is Cork. Although I think Richardson or Seaborne would be better suited to this role... OMG! Clueless alert!!!
Saint_clark Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 I copied and pasted it without checking. Please change the title for me. Don't do it, let him suffer
Olallana Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 anyone remember those glory days when threads stayed at least for a small bit on topic...? no, not me either....
Window Cleaner Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 anyone remember those glory days when threads stayed at least for a small bit on topic...? no, not me either.... It was boring anyway, just says Morgan's worth a lot of moolah, this way please with your cheque-books gents.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 Stay on topic Windows, this aint the muppet show you know. For me Ponch wants the ball to be won high up the pitch and so advocates intense pressing; speaking, as Arrigo Sacchi did, of there being an ideal 25 metres between centre-forward and centre-back. He recognises the importance of the rapid movement of the ball from front to back to catch opponents off balance, but he also sees the value in retaining possession, which is what differentiates him from, say, Egil Olsen, a coach who always prioritises position on the field over possession. Inevitably, though, it took Ponch time to settle. He made radical changes, training became far more conceptual, with moves worked through in detail without opponents. Now it is clicking. This is what bear predicted when he first signed.
Crab Lungs Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 Been saying it before (as someone else on here has, I can't remember who though) - I wouldn't swap our midfield for almost any of the ones we come up against every week. We have a simply brilliant midfield and great blend. Liverpool, no. Man Utd, no. Spurs, possibly (if it includes Bale). Arsenal, possibly. Man City (three good 'uns and the rest are ****, so no). Everton? No. Very, very underrated, but now people are taking notice. And because they're taking notice, it's the acid test over the summer - can we keep our midfield together?
St Chalet Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 anyone remember those glory days when threads stayed at least for a small bit on topic...? no, not me either.... Safe to get back on topic.
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