Appy Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 Mr Pochettino nominated. Along with Jol,Moyes and Ferguson.
ToreSF Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 Mr Pochettino nominated. Along with Jol,Moyes and Ferguson. Think Ferguson or Jol will get it.
Appy Posted 4 April, 2013 Author Posted 4 April, 2013 Think Ferguson or Jol will get it. Moyes and Ferguson have 100% win perchentages. Jol and Pochettino 50%, but we are the only ones who lost.
trousers Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 An I right in recalling that Adkins never won manager of the month (in all 3 leagues) whilst at Saints? Not sure if I'm right there but would be a 'strange but true' fact if it is
hutch Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 Pretty damned good show in only his second full month in the job
trousers Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 Depends what the voting criteria is but it wouldn't surprise me if Pochettino gets it. A club in our precarious position beating Liverpool and Chelsea back to back is, pound for pound, a more impressive achievement than the likes of Man Utd winning 100% of games they were expected to win.
trousers Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 Tomorrow. Cheers. Is it voted by a panel or some other method does anyone know?
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 Tino should win..... But media/ref/FA Saints hatred means that Moyes will win ffs
Saint_John Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 An I right in recalling that Adkins never won manager of the month (in all 3 leagues) whilst at Saints? Not sure if I'm right there but would be a 'strange but true' fact if it isHe won it once in April 2011 http://www.leaguemanagers.com/managers/history-1596.html The biggest surprise for me is that a certain person won it in March 2005 the year we went (? took us ?) down .
ToreSF Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 He won it once in April 2011 http://www.leaguemanagers.com/managers/history-1596.html The biggest surprise for me is that a certain person won it in March 2005 the year we went (? took us ?) down . According to Wiki, we only played two games in March 2005. Won against Spurs and Middlesbrough, giving us that false feeling of hope most fans of QPR must recognize.
Appy Posted 4 April, 2013 Author Posted 4 April, 2013 reckon Martinez might get it. Unlikely, he isn't nomianted.
Window Cleaner Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 (edited) Unlikely, he isn't nomianted. right didn't know that the nominations were known already, probably because I read threads from last to first and don't always get to the bottom before posting, must cut that out. Edited 4 April, 2013 by Window Cleaner
Appy Posted 4 April, 2013 Author Posted 4 April, 2013 right didn't know that the nominations were known already See my original post
VectisSaint Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 Mr Pochettino nominated. Along with Jol,Moyes and Ferguson. Hope he doesn't get it, usually kiss of death.
Saint Garrett Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 He won it once in April 2011 http://www.leaguemanagers.com/managers/history-1596.html The biggest surprise for me is that a certain person won it in March 2005 the year we went (? took us ?) down . We only played 2 games that month. Beat Middlesbrough 3-1 away and Spurs 1-0 at home.
trousers Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 He won it once in April 2011 http://www.leaguemanagers.com/managers/history-1596.html Cheers - it still seems a bit bonkers that a manager who achieved back to back promotions to the premier league only managed to accrue one MotM in that time. Not that I'm complaining....better to stay under the radar in these things!
Olallana Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 Cheers - it still seems a bit bonkers that a manager who achieved back to back promotions to the premier league only managed to accrue one MotM in that time. Not that I'm complaining....better to stay under the radar in these things! Yes but I think we were too consistent for this kind of award. If we had 5 games during a month we often had 10-12 points out of those. But there is often some other team have a good run for a month but they are not as consistent over the season so for that specific month they will have a run and get this kind of award but over a season we are far better off.
trousers Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 Yes but I think we were too consistent for this kind of award. If we had 5 games during a month we often had 10-12 points out of those. But there is often some other team have a good run for a month but they are not as consistent over the season so for that specific month they will have a run and get this kind of award but over a season we are far better off. Yep, makes sense thinking about it. Which is actually why I think Pochettino stands a good chance of winning it this time.
Olallana Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 Yep, makes sense thinking about it. Which is actually why I think Pochettino stands a good chance of winning it this time. I´m not too sure though. Our record in march was 2 win, 1 draw and 1 loss? Dont think that will cut it. We can hope though, I dont know what the criterias are for the jury. If it´s only results he wont win it, if there are other criterias the chance is there.
Saint Scott Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 For those wondering here is the fixtures and results. We have played the most games and if we would of beat QPR at home I wouldnt of been able to see past MP winning the MOTM. Cant see Ferguson not winning, despite playing some poor sides and all games they'd expect to win without too much trouble. [table] [tr] [td] Pochettino Saints 1-2 QPR Norwich 0-0 Saints Saints 3-1 Liverpool Saints 2-1 Chelsea W2 D1 L1 [/td] [td] Moyes Everton 3-1 Reading Everton 2-0 Man City Everton 1-0 Stoke W3 D0 L0 [/td] [td] Jol Sunderland 2-2 Fulham Spurs 0-1 Fulham W1 D1 L0 [/td] [td] Ferguson Man Utd 4-0 Norwich Man Utd 1-0 Reading Sunderland 0-1 Man Utd W3 D0 L0 [/td] [/tr] [/table]
Deano6 Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 So Jol has been nominated for narrowly beating Spurs and...errr...
ToreSF Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 So Jol has been nominated for narrowly beating Spurs and...errr... qpr
Andre Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 For those wondering here is the fixtures and results. We have played the most games and if we would of beat QPR at home I wouldnt of been able to see past MP winning the MOTM. Cant see Ferguson not winning, despite playing some poor sides and all games they'd expect to win without too much trouble. [table] [tr] [td] Pochettino Saints 1-2 QPR Norwich 0-0 Saints Saints 3-1 Liverpool Saints 2-1 Chelsea W2 D1 L1 [/td] [td] Moyes Everton 3-1 Reading Everton 2-0 Man City Everton 1-0 Stoke W3 D0 L0 [/td] [td] Jol Sunderland 2-2 Fulham Spurs 0-1 Fulham W1 D1 L0 [/td] [td] Ferguson Man Utd 4-0 Norwich Man Utd 1-0 Reading Sunderland 0-1 Man Utd W3 D0 L0 [/td] [/tr] [/table] Given the magnitude of the teams we've beaten, and the progress actually made by the manager (hence the award), it would be criminal if Poch didn't win this. Moyes has done well too, but Fergie's had to do very little to beat those sides.
Colinjb Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 Moyes to win it. That QPR result sticks out like a sore thumb.
trousers Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 Moyes to win it. That QPR result sticks out like a sore thumb. To me it depends if they measure the success against the expectations of each team across the month - I think, overall, Pochettino's Southampton exceeded expectations more than Moyes' Everton did in the same period. Yes, we've got an ugly result in there but the unbeaten run of Norwich away and Liverpool + Chelsea at home 'beats' 3 Everton home wins, two of which they would have been expected to win, IMO
SNSUN Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 Gotsta be Moyes for me. Our last two results are impressive (even more so if you take into our performances in those games) but this is traditionally a time of the season when Everton switch off having secured safety. 3 wins in a row for them is particularly impressive. The 1-2-3 in my eyes would be Moyes-Pochettino-Ferguson.
Saint_Ash Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 It'd be wrong for poch to get it purely because we couldn't beat bottom of the league at home.
Dalek2003 Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 Hope he doesn't get it, usually kiss of death. This
Minsk Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 For those wondering here is the fixtures and results. We have played the most games and if we would of beat QPR at home I wouldnt of been able to see past MP winning the MOTM. Cant see Ferguson not winning, despite playing some poor sides and all games they'd expect to win without too much trouble. [TABLE] [TR] [TD]Pochettino Saints 1-2 QPR Norwich 0-0 Saints Saints 3-1 Liverpool Saints 2-1 Chelsea W2 D1 L1[/TD] [TD]Moyes Everton 3-1 Reading Everton 2-0 Man City Everton 1-0 Stoke W3 D0 L0[/TD] [TD]Jol Sunderland 2-2 Fulham Spurs 0-1 Fulham W1 D1 L0[/TD] [TD]Ferguson Man Utd 4-0 Norwich Man Utd 1-0 Reading Sunderland 0-1 Man Utd W3 D0 L0[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Looking at that, it should be Moyes. It should not be Jol based on only 1 win and 1 draw It should not be SAF because even I could manage Utd to beat Norwich, Reading and Sunderland It should not be Poch because losing at home to a bottom place QPR is completely unforgivable (and is the only defeat for any of the nominations)
SuperMikey Posted 4 April, 2013 Posted 4 April, 2013 Controversial thought here, but I think Moyes is the best manager in the league. There, i've said it.
This Charming Man Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 Moyes wins. What a surprise. Yet more proof (as if it was needed) that The FA and media hate us.
Appy Posted 5 April, 2013 Author Posted 5 April, 2013 What a surprise. Yet more proof (as if it was needed) that The FA and media hate us. It's a disgrace, they can't look beyond his 100% record and see the performances we put in by losing at home to QPR and scraping a draw at Norwich. More bias.
Andre Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 It's a disgrace, they can't look beyond his 100% record and see the performances we put in by losing at home to QPR and scraping a draw at Norwich. More bias. Agreed. As a team recently promoted (twice), we beat the league champions and the European champions, with a narrow defeat to a pumped-up QPR team and a scrappy draw with Norwich. Everton beat a massively struggling Reading, the league champions (fair play), and the average Stoke City. Hmm...
Appy Posted 5 April, 2013 Author Posted 5 April, 2013 Agreed. As a team recently promoted (twice), we beat the league champions and the European champions, with a narrow defeat to a pumped-up QPR team and a scrappy draw with Norwich. Everton beat a massively struggling Reading, the league champions (fair play), and the average Stoke City. Hmm... We got promoted twice last month? We should of won it then.
Sour Mash Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 Agreed. As a team recently promoted (twice), we beat the league champions and the European champions, with a narrow defeat to a pumped-up QPR team and a scrappy draw with Norwich. No we didn't.
Aardvark Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 It didn't seem to do McDermott much good, winning MOM as recently as January!
trousers Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 (edited) If they typically give it to the bloke who won the highest percentage of games why bother short-listing those that won less games? Hey ho Edited 5 April, 2013 by trousers
Window Cleaner Posted 5 April, 2013 Posted 5 April, 2013 so in fact Moyes got the MOM award because getting your arse kicked at home by Wigan in the cup doesn't count...is that right?
Appy Posted 5 April, 2013 Author Posted 5 April, 2013 so in fact Moyes got the MOM award because getting your arse kicked at home by Wigan in the cup doesn't count...is that right? Seeing as it's Premier League manager of the month i guess it doesn't.
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