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Yes, it's stupid and meaningless, I know.

 

Where do you fit in?

 

It's a bit skewed for me really, Norway is a richer country than Britain, my wife earns about double what I earn too, which changes the household income and my house is worth at least three times what I paid for it. Norway doesn't really have a class system either. It put me in elite, but I wouldn't agree with that.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22000973

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[h=3]Result: the class group you most closely match is:[/h] [h=4]Established middle class[/h] This is the most gregarious and the second wealthiest of all the class groups. According to the Great British Class Survey results, lots of people in this group:

 

  • Enjoy a diverse range of cultural activities
  • Went to university
  • Are comfortably off, secure and established

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[h=3]Result: the class group you most closely match is:[/h][h=4]Technical middle class[/h]This is a small, distinctive and prosperous new class group. According to the Great British Class Survey results, lots of people in this group:

 

  • Mix socially with people similar to themselves
  • Work in research, science and technical fields
  • Enjoy emerging culture such as going to the gym and using social media

 

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Result: the class group you most closely match is:

EliteThis is the wealthiest and most privileged group in the UK. According to the Great British Class Survey results, lots of people in this group:

Enjoy high cultural activities such as visiting museums and listening to classical musicWent to private school and elite universitiesSocialise with people who do a wide variety of jobs

Established middle class

This is the most gregarious and the second wealthiest of all the class groups. According to the Great British Class Survey results, lots of people in this group:

 

Enjoy a diverse range of cultural activities

Went to university

Are comfortably off, secure and established

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Here is my low class questions, any of these is yes & u is low class:

1) Have u bought lottery scratchcard in past 12 months?

B) Do u walk dog on bit of string?

4) Have u bought stuff in poundshop?

IV) How bout cash converters yo?

9) Do yo smoke roll ups or lambert & butlers or mayfairs?

2) Do yo spend more on tv & sky than on car?

 

Middle class is easy cos only one question:

VI) Have yo bought new bed sheets in past 12 months?

 

I don't really know any upper class people to make questions on them tho!

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For me:

 

New affluent workers

 

This class group is sociable, has lots of cultural interests and is in the middle of all the class groups in terms of wealth. According to the Great British Class Survey results, lots of people in this group:

 

Are young

Come from a working class background

Own their own home

 

That's only really as my girlfriend and I have just bought our first home though. Without that it looks like I'd have been in the 'Emergent service workers' category.

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Here is my low class questions, any of these is yes & u is low class:

1) Have u bought lottery scratchcard in past 12 months?

B) Do u walk dog on bit of string?

4) Have u bought stuff in poundshop?

IV) How bout cash converters yo?

9) Do yo smoke roll ups or lambert & butlers or mayfairs?

2) Do yo spend more on tv & sky than on car?

 

Middle class is easy cos only one question:

VI) Have yo bought new bed sheets in past 12 months?

 

I don't really know any upper class people to make questions on them tho!

 

I like the odd roll up, given up smoking you see bar when having a drink, hopefully this will downgrade me.

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[h=4]Emergent service workers[/h]This class group is financially insecure, scoring low for savings and house value, but high for social and cultural factors. According to the Great British Class Survey results, lots of people in this group:

 

  • Are young
  • Enjoy a cultured social life
  • Rent their home - almost 90%

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Yeah I am technical middle class too. I'm probably not elite because I think opera is sheet even as a web browser; let alone turning up to watch the dog****. Innit.

 

I like opera, and I'm technical middle class. Reckon I've been downgraded for hanging out with software designers.

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Technical Middle Class

 

People in this group tend to mix socially with people similar to themselves probably

They prefer emerging culture, such as using social media, to highbrow culture such as listening to classical music correct

Many people in this group work in research, science and technical occupations correct

They tend to live in suburban locations, often in the south east of England Bitterne Park :?:

They come from largely middle class backgrounds No, Father worked in a factory, Mother in a shop/school meals & when my grandfathers weren't shooting The Nazis they were a docker & van driver.

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Elite

 

This is the wealthiest and most privileged group in the UK. According to the Great British Class Survey results, lots of people in this group:

 

 

Enjoy high cultural activities such as visiting museums and listening to classical music

Went to private school and elite universities

Socialise with people who do a wide variety of jobs

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All seems a load of rubbish but for the record I'm one of those new affluent types. I'd have thought class would be more economically based but there was only a couple of questions on that. Also found it odd that one of the factors was who you were friends with and what their occupation was but not what your occupation was.

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Such a load of ******** - it seems we're not happy unless we put people into boxes and make sweeping judgements about them accordingly. It is true that our respective wealth will influence things about our life, obviously, but the class designation that results, and much of the preconceptions and stereotyping of those in each class just serves to turn people against each other and degrade the very real problems and very specific issues that we all have, whatever 'class' we are in.

 

We're individuals. It would be nice if we were all treated as such, but I know that will probably never happen.

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Established Middle Class - what a load of old b*ll*x

 

Classes don't exist anymore except in the minds of a few sad British w@nker wannabies. Everyone has different lives, different jobs and different interests.

 

It's lucky there wasn't a 'do you watch football' option otherwise everyone on here would have been placed in the chav sc*m section.

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Elite

 

This is the wealthiest and most privileged group in the UK. According to the Great British Class Survey results, lots of people in this group:

 

 

Enjoy high cultural activities such as visiting museums and listening to classical music

Went to private school and elite universities

Socialise with people who do a wide variety of jobs

 

 

So was I, but I didn't need the BBC to tell me.

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I don't think it is just about economic factors. i was raised by a single mum, working as a barmaid, in a terraced house with no heating, no car and no phone line in the seventies. It was a pretty working class situation, but her background was quite middle class. I'd say i grew up with a fairly middle class attitude, despite having none of the middle class trappings. Oddly I'd say my sister is quite working class, she watches ITV and everything.

 

Having grown up in a society where class is noticed, it surprised me to realise there really is no such thing in many other countries including Norway. For example at my workplace in Britain, nobody ever really spoke to the cleaners and certainly didn't socialise with them. Here they are the same as any other member of staff and see their standing as no lower than the boss, maybe a rubbish example, but it's not easy to explain.

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I don't think it is just about economic factors. i was raised by a single mum, working as a barmaid, in a terraced house with no heating, no car and no phone line in the seventies. It was a pretty working class situation, but her background was quite middle class. I'd say i grew up with a fairly middle class attitude, despite having none of the middle class trappings. Oddly I'd say my sister is quite working class, she watches ITV and everything.

 

Having grown up in a society where class is noticed, it surprised me to realise there really is no such thing in many other countries including Norway. For example at my workplace in Britain, nobody ever really spoke to the cleaners and certainly didn't socialise with them. Here they are the same as any other member of staff and see their standing as no lower than the boss, maybe a rubbish example, but it's not easy to explain.

I get that. I used to have a small office out in Oslo. All decisions were debated by everyone, and none were made unless there was a consensus. Used to dive me nuts, as a Brit.

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Dune would have loved this thread. To take a Dune (and possibly realistic) view, it could be argued that the traditional working class has largely disappeared and been replaced by feckless Mick Philpotts who sit about on the dole in plastic clothes that promote brands, collect benefits, moan about immigrants and watch Sky TV paid for by somebody else...

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It's difficult to place me as I'm a student and so have no proper income! Though my parents would be established middle class. Ignoring income, I probably lean to technical middle class. I'm not really into enough 'highbrow' culture to count as established middle class. Very interesting stuff though. Personally I think as disposable income has increased, a person's 'position in society' has become more and more about how well they know the system and who they know and so on. Social capital is extremely useful in getting about day to day and it gives you status, influence and success/a leg up.

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I was surprised too, trousers.

 

Any tips on oppressing the underclass? :D

 

Yeah...sure... vote in a government that pledged to cut state spending ever so slightly more than the 'socialist' government pledged to cut... The Tory bashing underclass will fall for it hook line and sinker... ;)

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Yeah...sure... vote in a government that pledged to cut state spending ever so slightly more than the 'socialist' government pledged to cut... The Tory bashing underclass will fall for it hook line and sinker... ;)

 

Think the real problem is where the cuts have been made, trousers. They seem to adversely affect everyone but the super-rich, who have done rather well.

 

The only reason they're getting away with it, for now, is that they continue to spread misinformation about where all the benefits money is going. I suspect that you'll only realise the true damage that has been done here when the underclass start viewing the middle class as aristocrats and there is an international border running through mainland Britain. I used to think that the Scots would vote to stay in the Union. Salmond's job has been made a lot easier by the incompetence and indifference of this government.

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Think the real problem is where the cuts have been made, trousers. They seem to adversely affect everyone but the super-rich, who have done rather well.

 

The only reason they're getting away with it, for now, is that they continue to spread misinformation about where all the benefits money is going. I suspect that you'll only realise the true damage that has been done here when the underclass start viewing the middle class as aristocrats and there is an international border running through mainland Britain. I used to think that the Scots would vote to stay in the Union. Salmond's job has been made a lot easier by the incompetence and indifference of this government.

 

If only Labour could bring themselves to tell us what services and benefits they would have cut instead we'd have a barometer to compare against how 'nasty' the Tory cuts really are...

 

Btw, in the main, the Tories aren't cutting per se, they're predominantly reducing the rate at which state spending was growing.

 

To use a car analogy we've lifted our foot off the accelerator a bit rather than put the car into reverse.

 

P.s. are you sure the Scots are as short-sighted as that? Governments come and go - since the war, the majority party in the general election in Scotland has matched that of the UK as a whole for c.60% of the time. I reckon the Scots will see the bigger picture rather than cut off their noses to spite their face just to give the Tories a kick in the gonads.

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If only Labour could bring themselves to tell us what services and benefits they would have cut instead we'd have a barometer to compare against how 'nasty' the Tory cuts really are...

 

Btw, in the main, the Tories aren't cutting per se, they're predominantly reducing the rate at which state spending was growing.

 

To use a car analogy we've lifted our foot off the accelerator a bit rather than put the car into reverse.

 

P.s. are you sure the Scots are as short-sighted as that? Governments come and go - since the war, the majority party in the general election in Scotland has matched that of the UK as a whole for c.60% of the time. I reckon the Scots will see the bigger picture rather than cut off their noses to spite their face just to give the Tories a kick in the gonads.

 

Sure it's just a question of perspective, trousers.

 

If you're a relentless apologist for an unpopular government, then I'm sure you can derive a way to say they're something else.

 

If you're someone like my father in law, former paratrooper living in a 3 bed council place, having to pay the bedroom tax, then I'm sure it feels like a cut.

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Sure it's just a question of perspective, trousers.

 

If you're a relentless apologist for an unpopular government, then I'm sure you can derive a way to say they're something else.

 

If you're someone like my father in law, former paratrooper living in a 3 bed council place, having to pay the bedroom tax, then I'm sure it feels like a cut.

 

Yes, believe it or not, I do find myself playing the "defend the Tory party" card on here more often than I do in the 'real world'. But that's only because of the blinkered agenda driven mentality of the average internet Tory basher. (not aimed at you sir!)

 

My view of the Tories is that most of their ideas are sensible (i.e. it makes sense not to spend the equivalent of the entire income tax, council tax and business rates revenues on welfare and to somehow put the brakes on it) but their execution and implementation is often poorly thought through.

 

All I wish for is rather than the internet bandwagon exclaiming: "look at those nasty Tories cutting this that and the other" that they instead acknowledge that all parties at the last general election pledged to cut public spending at rates that weren't a million miles apart.

 

Yes, the Tories are a bit more ruthless at this streamlining malarkey than Labour but for the internet brigade to portray that we're only feeling the pinch because the Tories are in power is somewhat disingenuous.

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