Horton Heath Saint Posted 1 April, 2013 Posted 1 April, 2013 Looking bleak now for QPR and Reading. Villa or Sunderland to follow? Glad we have massive goal difference, who would have thought that at start of season.
SaintBobby Posted 1 April, 2013 Posted 1 April, 2013 This is the best link for how gone or not the relegation-threatened teams are. Chances of Reading and QPR going down are pretty close to certain. http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation
Jimmy_D Posted 1 April, 2013 Posted 1 April, 2013 Both 7 points adrift with 7 to play now, no team's ever come back from that.
John Boy Saint Posted 1 April, 2013 Posted 1 April, 2013 21 points on the table still plenty of twists and turns, although Arry giving it out in public on his players does not help his cause. The Fat lady is still only choosing her Frock!!
Lighthouse Posted 1 April, 2013 Posted 1 April, 2013 They both have home games against relegation rivals next. If either team fails to win, I'd say that was it. They would stay at least 7 points adrift and so need to win 3 games MORE in their last 6 than Wigan, Villa and/or Sunderland. Would probably need to win 4 or 5 of their last 6 realistically to stay up. A massive ask and one I don't think either team is up to personally.
Horton Heath Saint Posted 1 April, 2013 Author Posted 1 April, 2013 Guess Harry and Nige will be shaking hands next season.
S-Clarke Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 QPR are painfully short on quality in specific area's, which will be their undoing. And they seem to have a painful lack of team spirit. Reading are simply short of quality full stop. I will stick my neck on the line here and say they're both long gone. For either to stay up they will need to win 80% of their remaining games, whilst also hoping that the teams above them lose every week. Not going to happen really.
theyin Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 If, as Fernandez says, the wages aren't too mad, are there any QPR players, or any from Reading or Villa (my predictions for the drop) that Saints might be looking to pick up this summer?
S-Clarke Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 If, as Fernandez says, the wages aren't too mad, are there any QPR players, or any from Reading or Villa (my predictions for the drop) that Saints might be looking to pick up this summer? Would take Remy in a shot, although he's probably on a fortune.
washsaint Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 wages not too mad!! Samba on 100K per week, Remy not far off, Cesar on around 60K per week, Green on about 50K per week. Bonkers to say wages are not too mad. QPR are the next Portsmouth.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 Major difference between them and Portsmouth is the Mittal 33% ownership. They have seriously rich people behind them, they won't necessarily chuck stupid money at them, but its a totally different kettle of fish to the skate paupers.
Appy Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 wages not too mad!! Samba on 100K per week, Remy not far off, Cesar on around 60K per week, Green on about 50K per week. Bonkers to say wages are not too mad. QPR are the next Portsmouth. Hear Zamora is pushing 70k too. They don't beat Wigan Sunday, that will be the end. I love how touchy they are about the wages they pay, Harry,Fernandes, Samba now on twitter and recently missing poster Flyer love to cry about them.
SaintBobby Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 Despite my loathing of Redknapp, I will be cheering on QPR v Wigan on Saturday. Rangers can't realistically catch Saints, Wigan can. If we beat Reading and QPR beat Wigan, our safety is basically assured.
Andre Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 QPR and Reading are as good as gone now, yeah? We're safe just down to the fact that it is so damn close at the bottom, and on our current form we are one of the best of the pack. I think Villa are still going down, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was Sunderland instead; I really want to see Di Canio in the Premier League next year though, always good to have a character or two.
Fozzybear Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 Guess Harry and Nige will be shaking hands next season. Are you kidding? Like a rat deserting a sinking ship, Harry will be gone soon after the drop to the championship. Off to manage another bunch of suckers with more cash than sense.
Greenridge Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 Harry's post-match interview was funny. He was almost apoplectic. Couldn't be happening to a nicer man.
Bucks Saint Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 wages not too mad!! Samba on 100K per week, Remy not far off, Cesar on around 60K per week, Green on about 50K per week. Bonkers to say wages are not too mad. QPR are the next Portsmouth. This. Remy was all set for Newcastle until QPR offered more. Zamrora was popular and finding good form at Fulham before he too grabbed the wages QPR dangled. Club and players will be getting what they deserve soon
Joensuu Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 Many of the teams in the relegation mix are exceeding a point per game on current form (exceptions are Sunderland, Norwich and Stoke). For QPR or Reading to avoid the drop they'd need to up their efforts to, at least, 4 points from every 6. That's the sort of form Spurs or Everton have demonstrated all season. If we can maintain our form we'll easily top the 40pt mark.
rooney Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 I hope this dispels the myth of Harry Houdini once and for all when he has had QPR-down, Portsmouth-down and bust-Saints-down & admin, Bournemouth-down & admin.
Junction 9 Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 I hope this dispels the myth of Harry Houdini once and for all when he has had QPR-down, Portsmouth-down and bust-Saints-down & admin, Bournemouth-down & admin. He didn't take Pompey down.
scotty Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 Guess Harry and Nige will be shaking hands next season. I doubt redknapp will stay on if qpr go down. He'll trouser his payoff, have a whinge about how his heart wasnt in it, then f*ck off to the highest bidder.
brmbrm Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 This is the best link for how gone or not the relegation-threatened teams are. Chances of Reading and QPR going down are pretty close to certain. http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation Odds generous on Sunderland - fill your boots, boys, and remember I am on a 10% bung for giving you the inside on this
Charlie Wayman Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 So a £100 bet on us for the chop could be worth £2 grand? Not bad, maybe worth a punt?
trousers Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 So a £100 bet on us for the chop could be worth £2 grand? Not bad, maybe worth a punt? Yep. Generous odds for a team just 4 points above the drop zone.
bpsaint Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 I doubt redknapp will stay on if qpr go down. He'll trouser his payoff, have a whinge about how his heart wasnt in it, then f*ck off to the highest bidder. Didn't he say this would be his last job in football or did I imagine that? I'm struggling to think of where he would go next if he was to leave QPR. We know he doesn't want to be too far from home, so that narrows it down to the south of England. Can't think of any London teams that would be after a new manager, not unless Fat Sam or Martin Jol were to leave their jobs, and couldn't see him taking on a Championship job unless it was a club that were planning on throwing an unlimited amount of money on a promotion push. Maybe he'd go off twitching abroad somewhere?
saintrich Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 Yep. Generous odds for a team just 4 points above the drop zone. Put £10 on at 29/1 yesterday just incase the worst happens. I fully believe we'll be ok though.
Barry Sanchez Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 They are gone, its the 3rd spot that concerns me.
Barry Sanchez Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 Put £10 on at 29/1 yesterday just incase the worst happens. I fully believe we'll be ok though. You bet for us to go down?
Saints boy in Leeds Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 If, as Fernandez says, the wages aren't too mad, are there any QPR players, or any from Reading or Villa (my predictions for the drop) that Saints might be looking to pick up this summer? I'd take samba, remy and poss jenas, all on lowish wages though and 2 year deals.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 I'd take samba, remy and poss jenas, all on lowish wages though and 2 year deals. I really don't get the fuss about Samba. He's basically just a lump. Shown up far too easy last night. Debatablely at fault for all 3 goals. Over-rated and over-paid. Looks like the fall out at QPR is showing, Samba having a go at 'fans' today. Lulz. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21998297 Should keep the wait for the season interesting at least, watching the Loftus Road melt down.
Nexstar Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 I personally think they're done. 23 points from 31 games, I just can't see either picking up 7 from 7 just to even stay in touch with the rest. Spose it's then 1 from Wigan, Villa, Sunderland, Newcastle, Norwich, Stoke and us. Going to be a very interesting few weeks!
Barry Sanchez Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 Samba as 1st CB. Cesar for competition with Boruc. Park quality midfielder who can play across the park. Tarrabt competition for Ramirez. Remy quality forward would add real class to our front line. Reading's squad? No no one at all.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 Samba as 1st CB. Cesar for competition with Boruc. Park quality midfielder who can play across the park. Tarrabt competition for Ramirez. Remy quality forward would add real class to our front line. Reading's squad? No no one at all. You rate Samba Bazza? I really don't get it. I really don't think he's that great. Would prefer we went for someone better - and I do believe for £12m & £100k pw there is better value to be had. Surprised you went for Taarabt. Given your misgivings about Gaston. In my opinion, AT is lazier, and more frequent to go missing. Just my opinion of course.
Barry Sanchez Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 I would wouldn't pay anywhere near those wages for him, not a chance, Tarrabt is very good argubly more suited to what we need than Ramirez.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 I would wouldn't pay anywhere near those wages for him, not a chance, Tarrabt is very good argubly more suited to what we need than Ramirez. Fair enough. I'm not saying Taarabt hasn't got talent, he clearly has. Can certainly be a game changer when he feels like it. I just think he has a rotten attitude. I couldn't really see him buying into MP's pressing philosophy, or at least actually doing it.
scotty Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 Samba as 1st CB. Cesar for competition with Boruc. Park quality midfielder who can play across the park. Tarrabt competition for Ramirez. Remy quality forward would add real class to our front line. Reading's squad? No no one at all. Le Fondre?
Barry Sanchez Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 I was thinking of him but the bastard has done us over so many times I could not pick him, brilliant impact sub for them.
Appy Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 I was thinking of him but the bastard has done us over so many times I could not pick him, brilliant impact sub for them. Once?
Barry Sanchez Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 Once? No in many games last year in their push in the latter half of the season.
Saint Garrett Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 The only one I would have from their squads put together is probably Remy. Think all the others are distinctly average or with huge egos. Wouldn't touch Samba with a bargepole, don't rate him at all. He is just a big immobile lump.
Bucks Saint Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 Just Remy for me but he would need to take a chunky pay cut
pingwing Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 Reading and QPR are down, 7 points from safety with 7 games to go is far too much to ask from either team. Competition for that 3rd bottom spot is now too tight to call properly...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 Reading and QPR are down, 7 points from safety with 7 games to go is far too much to ask from either team. Competition for that 3rd bottom spot is now too tight to call properly... Gut feeling for me is that it is between Villa and Sunderland. Could be way off, could change post this weekend. But just how I see it at the moment.
pingwing Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 Gut feeling for me is that it is between Villa and Sunderland. Could be way off, could change post this weekend. But just how I see it at the moment. I was thinking about them both as well but Villa have 5 winnable games (including against Sunderland) and Sunderland ride almost completely on wether Di Canio fixes them or breaks them, there won't be a half fix with him about... Norwich look the most precarious given form an fixtures...
Rasiak-9- Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 I'd take Taarabt in a heartbeat. I know he's lazy but the guy is OBSCENELY talented. Remember watching him when we played them in a friendly and they beat us 3-0 and he literally made our entire back four look ridiculous. Taarabt/Lallana/Gaston/Schneiderlin and a better DMF than Cork would be a midfield roughly top 6 in quality.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 I was thinking about them both as well but Villa have 5 winnable games (including against Sunderland) and Sunderland ride almost completely on wether Di Canio fixes them or breaks them, there won't be a half fix with him about... Norwich look the most precarious given form an fixtures... Must admit, I havn't actually checked eithers fixtures. As I said, going on gut feel alone. Think Wigan have decided they actually fancy staying up again. I always (perhaps just me being deluded) thought we would stay up. Can't see Newcastle or Stoke going down, though Stoke could be in trouble if they carry on being so poor. I wouldnt miss them if they did go, so bored of Pulis, his stupid hat and his philosophy of "let's have a team of giant brutes, that kick everyone and lump it into the box and see what happens." Possibly Norwich, though I would be surprised. That all said, I'm rarely right about this stuff.
saint1977 Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 Yeah, I'd buy Le Fondre, liked him since he was at Rotherham. Kebbe maybe too long in the tooth now? Remy obviously too but rumoured to be on circa £80k a week at QPR; after all, why else would you go to QPR over Newcastle? I didn't believe Harry for a moment when he said before the window that he wouldn't be spending big - yeah right! They should get their money back on Remy but Samba? That's up there with Nugent and/or Utaka for his worst over-paid flop in recent years and we won't even mention Boogers or the Romanian striker at W Ham. Alex Pearce did well for us on loan at the level below but not mobile enough for the PL, let Cardiff or Hull have him.
Barry Sanchez Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 I'd take Taarabt in a heartbeat. I know he's lazy but the guy is OBSCENELY talented. Remember watching him when we played them in a friendly and they beat us 3-0 and he literally made our entire back four look ridiculous. Taarabt/Lallana/Gaston/Schneiderlin and a better DMF than Cork would be a midfield roughly top 6 in quality. You'll leave yourself open to the Ramirez lovers claiming betrayal, they can not see anything other than this £12Million wonder, they wouldn't swop Messi for him. GASTON RAMIREZ IS AMAZING
Olallana Posted 2 April, 2013 Posted 2 April, 2013 You'll leave yourself open to the Ramirez lovers claiming betrayal, they can not see anything other than this £12Million wonder, they wouldn't swop Messi for him. GASTON RAMIREZ IS AMAZING No marvelous Terry Hurlock-types in either team you´d like to bring in? Leigertwood, Derry or someone? That´s what we need ffs!
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