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Ramirez to Arsenal? (discussion from Life's A Pitch)


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I do think the best of Ramirez is yet to come, but sell him for what we paid or more in the summer and I won't be too upset, pending we replace him correctly. For his big transfer fee, much was expected but we've not seen the best of him yet - keep him and I reckon he'll be a much better player next season after having a season to adapt to the English game. I'd rather lose him than one of our other crown jewels - Morgan for instance who has been linked with Arsenal from the moment we signed him.

 

Weirdly (and I am a bit weird), as much as I love a big money signing and get all excited over it, it's the bargain signings or academy players that I end up liking more - Cork, for instance, who's turned into an excellent player and didn't even cost us a million quid. I do hope we get to see the best of Ramirez though. Keeping the squad together and adding quality to it is the way forward this summer IMO, losing only the "lower league" players that did us so well in the past but don't have a future at the club - like Hammond, Chaplow, Seaborne, Dickson etc etc

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My point was that it was an odd thing to finish the 'programme' with. Of course we are a selling club, as is every club in the world.

 

No no you're wrong, the clubs I have mentioned are either no stepping stone club or have the money to keep them there, possibly a bit of both.

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I'd worry more about losing Shaw, Schneiderlin & Clyne here to be honest. Ramirez may well be adjusting to the PL style and will show what he's capable of next season, but going by what he's shown so far I don't think he's been impressive enough to be thinking of moving on to bigger clubs.

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I'd worry more about losing Shaw, Schneiderlin & Clyne here to be honest. Ramirez may well be adjusting to the PL style and will show what he's capable of next season, but going by what he's shown so far I don't think he's been impressive enough to be thinking of moving on to bigger clubs.

 

Can't see any of them going anywhere. And if they do it will be for an absolute fortune.

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Now I read in the Secret Footballer book, that unless a player requests a move, the selling club is required to buy out the remainder of the players contract (usually funded by/dictation the transfer fee). Which is why some players/agents publicise the players transfer request in order to alert clubs who might be interested that a player has waived his rights to his contract being paid and will be cheaper to buy.

 

Unless Ramirez requests a move I doubt he will go anywhere.

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Ramirez has a contract opt out clause to be available for talks at a bid equal to what we paid for him should we get relegated.

 

If we got relegated I doubt we would get much more than that. If we stay up and then want to sell him - then the figure could be higher based upon his performances and the fact he has gone through an extensive (and perhaps

longer than ideally we would all have liked) new country new culture new language new league new pace of game new fitness levels bedding in process.

 

A decent showing the last 8 games, a few goals, saints staying up- I think he stays next year unless a £15M+ bid is popped down in front of us.

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That made me smile - I wish I knew an actual Arsenal fan I could say that too.

 

Well, ask them why they are minus the following players in the last couple of seasons:-

 

Adebayor, Nasri, Clichy, Kolo Toure, Fabregas, Robin Van Persie and Alex Song.

 

Had they kept some or all of those, I suspect that they might be more of a force to be reckoned with than they are now.

 

And there were some results this season that back that up. Like losses against Norwich, Swansea, draws against us, Everton, Fulham and Villa, knocked out of both cups by lower division teams and conceding 5 goals to Reading.

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