scotty Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21947497 Leaving to work for a charity in the States. I'd have put money on him taking over when Labour finally see sense and get shot of his liability of a brother. Who does that leave when Miliband Jr gets the boot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 If he was the leader of the Labour Party they would be doing much better. And at least looking like they could provide an alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21947497 Leaving to work for a charity in the States. I'd have put money on him taking over when Labour finally see sense and get shot of his liability of a brother. Who does that leave when Miliband Jr gets the boot? Yvette Cooper? Chuka Umanna? Sorry to see DM go - decent man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Labour still well ahead in the polls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Labour still well ahead in the polls. Thanks to dissatisfaction rather then policy. Imagine where they would be if they had someone competent in charge! (And yes, I vote blue.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Cooper. She is an awesome political animal. Sent from my GT-P3110 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 We have the idiot TUC to thank for Ed being the leader. Got little confidence in him or Ed Balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Labour have some good guys waiting such as Andy Burnham or Jim Murphy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Cooper. She is an awesome political animal. Think she's a good shout. She's a little tarnished by the expenses scandal, but the "they were all at it, m'lud" excuse will be good for a few Parliaments yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Personally, regardless of party. If any are 'career politicians,' they should be banned from office by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Eddie Izzard, anybody? http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3044/eddie_izzard_claims_i_ll_be_london_mayor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 (edited) Eddie Izzard, anybody? http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3044/eddie_izzard_claims_i_ll_be_london_mayor Why not! At least he has a perspective other then his education system and party. Regardless of whether I agree with his politics he would offer more thorough experience then 95% of his party peers. Edited 26 March, 2013 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Eddie Izzard, anybody? http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3044/eddie_izzard_claims_i_ll_be_london_mayor "I'm going to chuck in comedy...". Thats probably the only funny thing he's ever said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 We have the idiot TUC to thank for Ed being the leader. Got little confidence in him or Ed Balls. Not quite right actually. Individual unions have votes, based on membership numbers, and those individual unions cast their votes accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 "I'm going to chuck in comedy...". Thats probably the only funny thing he's ever said. Nah, he's alright. Can be a bit grating on some of his stuff, but I do like his geeky stuff. Now if you want to talk proper annoying, you've always got Jimmy "no gig too corporate" Carr and Michael "tons fatter than he looks" McIntyre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 More Union sponsored politicians less ppe oxbridge graduates who have never worked and have no concept of the workers of this Country, privileged careerist politicians should not be alllowed anywhere near a safe seat to enhance their profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 Not quite right actually. Individual unions have votes, based on membership numbers, and those individual unions cast their votes accordingly. The fact remains the oppositions leader is a bellend and he got in off the unions back and has little impact since he has been leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 Isn`t he going to work for International Rescue? I wonder what Thunderbird number he will be allocated?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 Personally, regardless of party. If any are 'career politicians,' they should be banned from office by default. My father once said to me (although he almost certainly nicked the quote from somebody else!)... "The desire to be a politician is exactly what makes somebody unsuitable to be one" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 Isn`t he going to work for International Rescue? I wonder what Thunderbird number he will be allocated?? His nickname is brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 More Union sponsored politicians less ppe oxbridge graduates who have never worked and have no concept of the workers of this Country, privileged careerist politicians should not be alllowed anywhere near a safe seat to enhance their profile. And the ironic thing is Ed tries to make out he's your average Joe, the tw*t has never done a days graft outside of party politics in his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 And the ironic thing is Ed tries to make out he's your average Joe, the tw*t has never done a days graft outside of party politics in his life. If you read his Wiki entry you'll see that he went to state schools and has worked outside of parliament in political research and teaching at Harvard. Much as David Cameron did but of course he had a much more priveleged upbringing. So I reckon Ed is more in touch with your average Joe than Cameron and his Bullingdon buddies will ever be. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 If you read his Wiki entry you'll see that he went to state schools and has worked outside of parliament in political research and teaching at Harvard. Much as David Cameron did but of course he had a much more priveleged upbringing. So I reckon Ed is more in touch with your average Joe than Cameron and his Bullingdon buddies will ever be. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband I'd have to have been living under a rock for the past year not to know that the amount he harps on about it, in that notoriously rough London suburb.. He's never had a real job outside of politics, Cameron is the best of a very bad bunch, at least worked in PR for 7 years. So he went on cushy unpaid trips over to Harvard, only able to do so because of his privileged background. And come on, a bit of political research is hardly a career? On his experience he wouldn't be put in charge of a company, let alone a country. Forgets to mention they had two houses, safer to stick to the stories of getting beaten up eh Ed. Its utterly cringe worthy and untruthful the way he pretends to be some working class hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 If you read his Wiki entry you'll see that he went to state schools and has worked outside of parliament in political research and teaching at Harvard. Much as David Cameron did but of course he had a much more priveleged upbringing. So I reckon Ed is more in touch with your average Joe than Cameron and his Bullingdon buddies will ever be. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband Man of the people my arse, he's from pure champagne socialist stock. http://www.thecommentator.com/article/1735/ed_miliband_the_wrong_side_of_the_tracks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/9957008/David-Miliband-a-colossus-Hes-a-greedy-failure-in-a-cosmic-sulk.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 Anybody who says "I vote blue" or "I vote red" is a massive part of the problem with our political system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 If you read his Wiki entry you'll see that he went to state schools and has worked outside of parliament in political research and teaching at Harvard. Much as David Cameron did but of course he had a much more priveleged upbringing. So I reckon Ed is more in touch with your average Joe than Cameron and his Bullingdon buddies will ever be. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband Ed and David Miliband had a very privileged upbringing, they have never denied this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 Ed and David Miliband had a very privileged upbringing, they have never denied this. I grant you they were lucky enough in that they had very supportive parents and got to mix with the likes of Tony Benn when they were growing up. And they had state educations - that's a bonus in itself. His parents were immigrants and his father was a Professor so probably not that loaded if money is your measure of privelege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 28 March, 2013 Author Share Posted 28 March, 2013 The fact remains the oppositions leader is a bellend and he got in off the unions back and has little impact since he has been leader. His stock has risen slightly since his paymasters told him to keep his mouth firmly closed unless its absolutely necessary for him to speak. You hardly ever hear him holding forth on any subject nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 I grant you they were lucky enough in that they had very supportive parents and got to mix with the likes of Tony Benn when they were growing up. And they had state educations - that's a bonus in itself. His parents were immigrants and his father was a Professor so probably not that loaded if money is your measure of privelege. So you agree they were privileged then? In short nothing to do with the tradtional Labour movement, the Labour party has lost its direction, they are more liberal than socialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 His stock has risen slightly since his paymasters told him to keep his mouth firmly closed unless its absolutely necessary for him to speak. You hardly ever hear him holding forth on any subject nowadays. Good because the unions will never give him the opportunity again to hold power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 So you agree they were privileged then? In short nothing to do with the tradtional Labour movement, the Labour party has lost its direction, they are more liberal than socialist. It depends on your interpretation of privelege I guess. To me, it's about nurturing parenting and consideration of values. It's not about money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 Good because the unions will never give him the opportunity again to hold power. If you think that the only politicians 'controlled' by power blocks are on the left, you are so mistaken. Far more control is exercised by big business and big money over the right wing parties. The only ones not so controlled are perhaps the Liberals but then it's difficult to know what their policies are in the first place as they sway with the wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 Anybody who says "I vote blue" or "I vote red" is a massive part of the problem with our political system? Really, this. People so entrenched and obsessed with "the left" and "the right" and which side of the divide they are. i think I've voted for red and blue at various stages in my life, and will continue to make a conscious choice each time based on their merits. To not do so is a bit blinkered, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 If you think that the only politicians 'controlled' by power blocks are on the left, you are so mistaken. Far more control is exercised by big business and big money over the right wing parties. The only ones not so controlled are perhaps the Liberals but then it's difficult to know what their policies are in the first place as they sway with the wind. I am not mistaken as I have not mentioned anything about the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 I grant you they were lucky enough in that they had very supportive parents and got to mix with the likes of Tony Benn when they were growing up. And they had state educations - that's a bonus in itself. His parents were immigrants and his father was a Professor so probably not that loaded if money is your measure of privelege. I would hardly call having to put up with that boring old windbag weddgie Benn privileged or lucky. No wonder he's such a geek, whilst other kids were playing in the street,he was discussing clause 4 , jack jones' tuc speech or the manifesto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 It's a bit of a shame he's leaving Parliament, he'll be a loss for both his party and for British politics. Had the situation worked out differently he might have made a interesting Prime Minister one day methinks. From t'other side of the House of Commons you could say much the same about Micheal Portillo. Too often in this country lesser men clamber to the top of the 'greasy pole' while their more able counterparts fall by the wayside. Talent is always in short supply and we seem to waste too much of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 A labour politician I actually don't mind and quite like. Mental that they chose his younger geeky brother as leader. Fools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Ed got the backing of the TUC, that wont happen again, a real left party should start up, not one of old striking and wanting silly demands from employers but a relevant leftist party for all people. The current regime and cartel of parties are simply apart by the squash and racket clubs they go to, thats not a class thing its a real issue, how can these privileged people identify with us? They cant and some wont, I would prefer for the sake of more peoples interest in British politics a real right party, a real left party and centre ground ones, proportional representation (the big two dont want it obviously as it weakens them, a good reason to have it then, European Countries manage pretty good with it and engagement would go up no end) and the absolute scrapping of things like expenses (can come from party funding or their salary!) and parliamentry privilege and accountability to the Country not the party. Finally if the parties are determined to pursue positive discrimation over ability let there be a proper representation of society, by that I mean % of people as mp's, if they want a % of women mp's there also should be a % of muslims, hindu's and jew's in power, on top of that a correct % of able persons from comprehensive, Union and working class backgrounds. Thats real demographic power and political correctness, one that will never happen as the ruling class regardless of colour, creed and religion is exactly that. Fairness and respect for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 Not quite right actually. Individual unions have votes, based on membership numbers, and those individual unions cast their votes accordingly. You're right, but there was, no doubt some organisation in their voting. Did any unions back David? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 You're right, but there was, no doubt some organisation in their voting. Did any unions back David? Don't know TBH For those on here saying there should be a genuine leftist option, it seems that some are trying to organise one http://leftunity.org/appeal/ and there are lots of on-line left-leaning pressure groups like Change, Avaaz etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 1 April, 2013 Author Share Posted 1 April, 2013 He's on a roll at the moment, isnt he. First his seat in parliament, now he's jumped ship at Sunderland just because they hired a fascist. No sense of humour, some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 1 April, 2013 Share Posted 1 April, 2013 Whereas, had he stayed as a director at Sunderland knowing De Canio's views, he would have been called a hypocrite #somepeoplecantwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 1 April, 2013 Author Share Posted 1 April, 2013 Whereas, had he stayed as a director at Sunderland knowing De Canio's views, he would have been called a hypocrite #somepeoplecantwin I know. #whoosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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