Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 A critical World Cup qualifier. Montenegro, considering the size of the nation really have progressed astonishingly. The venue for the game tonight is the 12,000 capacity Podgorica Arena. A real cauldron. Group H is currently as follows: Montenegro, 5 Played, 4 Won, Drawn 1, Lost 0, 13 points ---------------------------------------------------------- England, 5 Played, 3 Won, 2 Drawn, Lost 0, 11 points Ukraine, 4 played, 1 won, 2 drawn, 1 lost, 5 points Poland, 4 played, 1 won, 2 drawn, 1 lost, 5 points Moldova, 5 played, 1 won, 1 drawn, 3 lost, 4 points San Marino, 5 played, 0 won, 0 drawn, 5 lost, 0 points An utterly key game.... and I can see Montenegro winning.
Hatch Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 I'm going to go for a fairly comfortable 2-0 England win.
Bearsy Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 i like england games. They're win-win for me. If England does well i can be yay coom on engerland! if england does shite i can be like hahaha suck on that gerrards! Cry me a river wayne rooney! go break ur fat neck james milners!
alehouseboys Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 I was at Wembley against them in the Euros 2 or 3 years back, a few hundred of Montenegro's finest made more noise than 75,000ish of ours. Will be fiesty tonight f'sure.
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 And if I should falter, Would you open your arms out toooo me We should make love and not war And live with peace in our heearrrtttss i'm so in love with yoouuuuu I'll ve forever blluuueeee Oh baby please Give a little respect too o o oooo me
Saint_clark Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Their fans kicking off on each other already, drop kicks flying and everything.
Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 01 Hart 02 Johnson 03 Cole 05 Lescott 06 Smalling 04 Gerrard 07 Milner 08 Carrick 11 Cleverley 09 Welbeck 10 Rooney
dubai_phil Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 time to play find a working stream I suppose edit: although having just seen that team I ask myself why bother
Graffito Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 "Lampard could have played tonight to be frank". Like it Roy.
Saint_clark Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 I actually think playing the likes of Cleverly and Milner instead of Lampard and Young is the right thing to do. It'll be a scrappy game, everyone's really up for it.
Crab Lungs Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 01 Hart = Had a wobbly season but still one of the best in the world. 02 Johnson = Overrated, average. Walker is better. 03 Cole = Still doing a steady job, though it'd be nice to phase Baines in for the WC. 05 Lescott = Meh. Average to decent CB, no more. 06 Smalling = Meh, but has potential. 04 Gerrard = Lost his legs, average midfielder. Lost his dynamism. 07 Milner = Hard-working, yes. International class? Absolutely not. Would rather Leon Britton. 08 Carrick = Half-decent defensive midfielder. 11 Cleverley = Utterly, abysmally average. 09 Welbeck = One goal in the PL all season. Say's it all, really. Lower PL player at best. 10 Rooney = Evidently has talent but is not a "top" player. I predict we'll be outplayed by yet another small international team but somehow win or draw and everything will be ok again.
Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 Great start!!! All over them and Rooney from a corner. 0-1.
Crab Lungs Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Then again, I might be wrong. Still, it's really a sad state of affairs when that's the best lineup we can come up with.
Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 Wales beating Croatia. And one for me personally, it's Malta 0-1 Italy.... But Malta have missed a penalty.
Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 Great, England go 1-0 up then we take our foot off the gas.
Crab Lungs Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Another Gerrard "Hollywood" ball getting us in trouble...
Gingeletiss Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 (edited) I actually think playing the likes of Cleverly and Milner instead of Lampard and Young is the right thing to do. It'll be a scrappy game, everyone's really up for it. You're joking, right! those two are crap, and that Welbeck, if this is our best eleven, then we would be best served, staying at home, to save the embarrassment imho. Edited 26 March, 2013 by Gingeletiss Wrong man
Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 Montenegro really having a go now. Just hit the side netting from a teasing cross. The home fans disrupting their own momentum by chucking loo roll onto the pitch.
dubai_phil Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Harumph Now yo soi habla el futbol en espanol FFS dodgy streams
Saint_clark Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Have Montenegro got the cookie monster on the tannoy?
Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 Have Montenegro got the cookie monster on the tannoy? How are they allowed to do that? Seriously?
John Boy Saint Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 They do move the ball well going forwards, but then when you are a small nation you pick your team from the best of what is available not just from 4 teams. Pinball goal that has been on the cards for a while.
dubai_phil Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 oooh One of those taters who says GOooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
dubai_phil Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Right Woy needed to change things 10 mins into the second half. He didn't No response to their changes and being overrun. Johnson lucky nobody saw him raise his hands to the attacker b4 the corner
mightysaints Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 This is getting on to be the worse England team for a years.
Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 All credit to Montenegro either way in this game. There's only 600,000 of them.
Crab Lungs Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Montenegro has a smaller population than Birmingham and they're far better than us as a team. As someone said above, they pick the best available to them, not just from the four most favoured big clubs. We, on the other hand, continue to pick tried-and-tested losers and overrated youngsters. This video sums it all up. "The New Paul Scholes" Jack Rodwell. Watch his first touches for his deflected goal versus the Azeri U21 side. Yes, THE AZERI U21 side. His first touch sums up everything that's wrong with football in this country. Look at the players we've capped recently.... Livermore, Henderson, Shelvey, Cleverley... are they really dynamic, creative midfielders who can unlock a defence? Look at who we've got upfront. Danny Welbeck, 1 goal all season in the Premier League. Look at our midfield tonight. Cleverley... overrated beyond all recognition, Milner, uninspiring and uncreative, Gerrard "hollywood baller" and lost his legs. I love my country and want them to qualify for tournaments but we really don't deserve it playing this crap all the time.
dubai_phil Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Gerrard should have scored 3 in the last 5 mins, they faded very badly AFTER the change. Should have tweaked it earlier ROy, you'd have got the 3 points mate
Doctoroncall Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Well England have been shít for 84 minutes of this match. Conceding possession so easily and never in control of the match. Something I'm sure Roy said he was addressing.
Graffito Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Well what can you say. It's not like we haven't seen it all before.
Saint_clark Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Well what can you say. It's not like we haven't seen it all before. Speaking of seen it all before, when Gerrard stepped up for that free-kick all I could think of was Beckham V Greece.
Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 Speaking of seen it all before, when Gerrard stepped up for that free-kick all I could think of was Beckham V Greece. If only a certain striker had been called up......
Graffito Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Speaking of seen it all before, when Gerrard stepped up for that free-kick all I could think of was Beckham V Greece. Yep. Puts it in perspective. We remember a dramatic free kick of how many years ago?
Whitey Grandad Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Poor all round, very poor. If I can see what needs to be done from the other side of Europe why can't Woy? Players like Cleverley, Welbeck, Milner are nothing to be feared.
Wade Garrett Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 To be fair to Milner, he was one of our better players tonight. Welbeck, Gerrard, Johnson, Lescott, Carrick and Cleverley were garbage. Cole average, and Rooney hardly touched the ball in the second half. Hodgson did nothing to counter the tactical changes his opposite number made. He just stuck his head in the sand and hoped for the best.
alpine_saint Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 It really is time for W*nker Woy, the most clueless and uninspiring England manager since Graeme Taylor, to collect his chips..
Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 It really is time for W*nker Woy, the most clueless and uninspiring England manager since Graeme Taylor, to collect his chips.. #contains immediate emotional reaction# Who would do better? F**king 'Arry? I thought you didn't care about your former national team.
alpine_saint Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 #contains immediate emotional reaction# Who would do better? F**king 'Arry? I thought you didn't care about your former national team. My grandma would do better. At least the know they get a handbag round the lughole at half time. To answer your question, yes, 'Arry would do better. I dont care about the England team because of Woy, his predecessors, the FA, the Beckham circus and the Golden (ha, ha) Generation. I would love England to sit on top of the world in football. I am sick to death of seeing the same old players selected because of who they are and who they play for, totally ignoring in-form alternatives.
Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 My grandma would do better. At least the know they get a handbag round the lughole at half time. To answer your question, yes, 'Arry would do better. I dont care about the England team because of Woy, his predecessors, the FA, the Beckham circus and the Golden (ha, ha) Generation. I would love England to sit on top of the world in football. You are motivated by emotion and clouded by cynicism. But we knew that.
Whitey Grandad Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 You are motivated by emotion and clouded by cynicism. But we knew that. For me it's the other way around.
alpine_saint Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 You are motivated by emotion and clouded by cynicism. But we knew that. If I am clouded by cynicism, what does that make the selection policy of England managers ?
Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 For me it's the other way around. Motivated by cynicism!?
Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 If I am clouded by cynicism, what does that make the selection policy of England managers ? Better then your emotional judgement.
alpine_saint Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Better then your emotional judgement. How in the cold light of day tomorrow, is this going to look any better ?
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