Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 A little harsh? http://www.football365.com/topical-top-10/8597783/Top-Ten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 All a bit "no sh1T Shurlock" that list most folks who attend and watch football can be hardly surprised at that list and what it equates to in England performances. Agreed even with Saints tinted specs a tad harsh on Wayne Bridge, considering he must be a similar age to Ashley Cole and not only ended up playing his understudy Internationally but no sooner were his feet under the table at Chelsea but Cole then moved in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Chelsea ruined his career. Look at Parker, went seriously stale there, Bridge should have left sooner or never went at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 He never quite pressed on like he should have done. Playing 2nd fiddle to Cole at club and country level really hurt his career. And he didn't learn his lesson by going to Man City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Yeah, the article gets a bit confused in comparing him to Baines. He (Bridge) was never really getting capped over Baines. That would be silly. LB is just unlucky to have been around at the same time as one of the best left-backs in the world over the past decade (pains me to say that, but he really has been). But Leighton is a class act, streets ahead of Bridgey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Preferred riding around on a hog like a poormans 'the undertaker' to playing football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 It's a bit of rewriting of history though. In Bridges prime which were his last two season at Saints and first couple at Chelsea there were precious few left sided players about. He was undoubtedly one of the best left sided players about 2001-2005. At one point Bridge even played left midfield for England such was the dearth of quality left sided players. In his day he was a very good left back but lost it towards the end at Chelsea and has never been the same player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 It's a bit of rewriting of history though. In Bridges prime which were his last two season at Saints and first couple at Chelsea there were precious few left sided players about. He was undoubtedly one of the best left sided players about 2001-2005. At one point Bridge even played left midfield for England such was the dearth of quality left sided players. In his day he was a very good left back but lost it towards the end at Chelsea and has never been the same player. Played left midfield against Macedonia at St Marys if i remember rightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Matty Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 A little harsh? http://www.football365.com/topical-top-10/8597783/Top-Ten Very harsh as I guess 32 of those were on the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Could not cut it at the very top, great player for us but the step up for Chelsea and England too much, you can hardly say dropping him and playing Cole is/was a bad decision, the bad decision was him staying and not going elsewhere playing football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Could not cut it at the very top, great player for us but the step up for Chelsea and England too much, you can hardly say dropping him and playing Cole is/was a bad decision, the bad decision was him staying and not going elsewhere playing football. quite. As soon as they signed Cole the writing was on the wall and he should have moved on. he was happy to sit on the bench for three years collecting his big wages and a few medals but doing little to earn them. It's telling that he made almost twice as many appearances in 5 years at saints, some of this when he was just breaking into the side, than he did in 6 years at Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 quite. As soon as they signed Cole the writing was on the wall and he should have moved on. he was happy to sit on the bench for three years collecting his big wages and a few medals but doing little to earn them. It's telling that he made almost twice as many appearances in 5 years at saints, some of this when he was just breaking into the side, than he did in 6 years at Chelsea. Am I right in thinking he broke some sort of record c.02/03 for most consecutive appearances? Cannae remember if that was for us or league, would assume as an outfield player? Or have I imagined this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Am I right in thinking he broke some sort of record c.02/03 for most consecutive appearances? Cannae remember if that was for us or league, would assume as an outfield player? Or have I imagined this? I think you are right, a record for an outfield player, since surpassed by Frank Lampard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Bridge was a class act for us. I never saw anyone beat him. I'll never forget his goal at the Reebok. I was absolutely gutted when I read in a Sunday paper that he was off to Chelsea. He deserved pretty much all those caps. I think only when he came back after a long injury and was rushed back into the England side before fully fit was the cap not really deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 I think you are right, a record for an outfield player, since surpassed by Frank Lampard. Yeah that sounds aboot right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Very harsh, he was very close to Cole at the time, his last couple of years at Saints and first season or so at Chelsea he was excellent and easily deserved an England place, he got 20 caps in this period. He faded away a bit after that from not playing but you could really only argue him getting appearances in 2007 -09 were probably undeserved. He maybe got 10 or so caps more than he deserved, but compared to what 50+ for Neville and Heskey he doesn't deserve to be below them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Bridge was a class act for us. I never saw anyone beat him. I'll never forget his goal at the Reebok. I was absolutely gutted when I read in a Sunday paper that he was off to Chelsea. He deserved pretty much all those caps. I think only when he came back after a long injury and was rushed back into the England side before fully fit was the cap not really deserved. I remember him getting a serious runaround by Espanyol in that first game at SMS. Made me worried about the upcoming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Was decent for us but I lost a lot of respect for him after he left us and became a player that was only in it for money. Could and should have gone on to much better things than he ever did. Yes, he has the money but now his time has gone I wonder if he questions how his career went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyboy Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 That is one weird list. You could fill it up with most of the team that played under Graham Taylor and it would make more sense. Geoff Thomas, Carlton Palmer, Andy Sinton, John Salako, that whole crowd. Maybe (Batty and Wise apart) they were exempt. Also wasn't John Barnes picked for about six years on the basis of that one goal against Brazil? I'd put all those (and Heskey) ahead of Bridge in this list. Saints viewpoint of course is that you'll never really see an overcapped player from our place, will you? Now if England would have played Bridge at LB and then stuck Chris Marsden in front of him at LM, THAT would have been a good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 That is one weird list. You could fill it up with most of the team that played under Graham Taylor and it would make more sense. Geoff Thomas, Carlton Palmer, Andy Sinton, John Salako, that whole crowd. Maybe (Batty and Wise apart) they were exempt. Also wasn't John Barnes picked for about six years on the basis of that one goal against Brazil? I'd put all those (and Heskey) ahead of Bridge in this list. Saints viewpoint of course is that you'll never really see an overcapped player from our place, will you? Now if England would have played Bridge at LB and then stuck Chris Marsden in front of him at LM, THAT would have been a good deal. Behave. John Barnes was like the Frank Lampard of the 80's. Brilliant for his club but never did it in an England shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinR Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 They should do an opposite list to that. Most UNdercapped England players.. MLT at the top with 8. Would make the amount of caps Barry/ Wise/ Jenas etc got look even more ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Terrible article. No Jenas? David Batty was twice the player than him and he's gets lampooned? Terrible, terrible, terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 One of the only times I have cheered a Chelsea goals was when he scored against the skates and the celebration afterwards was top quality, can still see it now. No matter what, he knew where he came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Bridgey chose to follow the money, understandable, but it meant making a career of the bench. Hope the same doesn't happen to Luke Shaw or any of our new youngsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 One of the only times I have cheered a Chelsea goals was when he scored against the skates and the celebration afterwards was top quality, can still see it now. No matter what, he knew where he came from. Shame this the only version I could find after a quick search but it's still great to watch. I'd have loved to have done that, or Beatts/Sharp's celebrations infront of those pikey shysters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Share Posted 26 March, 2013 Bridgey chose to follow the money, understandable, but it meant making a career of the bench. Hope the same doesn't happen to Luke Shaw or any of our new youngsters It could serve as a bit of a warning for anyone intent on a truly successful footballing career.. I'm sure Bridgey is miserable waking up to a pop singer girlfriend and no need to work again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 (edited) I don't think any of the players on that list have too many caps for their abilities, except probably Gareth Barry. Bobbyboy is about right regarding Graham Taylor's lot, but it's not like there were swathes of better players being overlooked. How James Milner isn't on there though... Edited 26 March, 2013 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 I remember him getting a serious runaround by Espanyol in that first game at SMS. Made me worried about the upcoming season. I don't watch friendlies. Total waste of time. Can you recall anyone else taking him apart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 It could serve as a bit of a warning for anyone intent on a truly successful footballing career.. I'm sure Bridgey is miserable waking up to a pop singer girlfriend and no need to work again. Where did it all go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 i'd take wise and batty over jenas anyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 In fairness to this article, Bridge must have put in the worst display I've ever seen anyone manage in an England shirt v Croatia (Wally with the brolley night). That's quite some statement thinking the dreadful performances we've put in over the years. He was truly gash that night, and was surprised he got further caps. I would have booted him out of the team for good, on the basis of that performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 26 March, 2013 Share Posted 26 March, 2013 My #1 would have been John Barnes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 My #1 would have been John Barnes [video=youtube;9SCyXGiJ-jc] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 Amazing goal. What number cap was it for that goal in Rio? As his career progressed Barnes was the most frustrating England player ever. He was absolutely amazing for Liverpool, unplayable at times, but stick him in an England shirt and he seemed to just bottle it, preferring to pass it square or backwards than try and beat his man. Put the Liverpool shirt back on and he'd beat five and smash it into the top corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 Amazing goal. What number cap was it for that goal in Rio? As his career progressed Barnes was the most frustrating England player ever. He was absolutely amazing for Liverpool, unplayable at times, but stick him in an England shirt and he seemed to just bottle it, preferring to pass it square or backwards than try and beat his man. Put the Liverpool shirt back on and he'd beat five and smash it into the top corner. repeat that with loads of players, Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, all ****e for England whilst world class for their clubs. They dont care to play for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 In about 10 years time he will be fourth behind Batty, Glenn Johnson and Danny Welbeck. Most undercapped player is Le Tiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 John Barnes Goal England v Brazil Anything he can do ....... [video=youtube_share;kXTFeFRPlbc] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 In about 10 years time he will be fourth behind Batty, Glenn Johnson and Danny Welbeck. Most undercapped player is Le Tiss. Welbeck, Johnson, Cleverly, Shelvey, Downing, Henderson....Bridge won't even get a mention! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 This thread needs more Crab Lungs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 Anything he can do ....... [video=youtube_share;kXTFeFRPlbc] THe best thing about that goal was the look of shock when Marsden realised he'd scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSaint Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 Easy being a England manager, if a top 5 club buy a Englishman for lots of ££££ pick them and keep picking them til they either retire or move to a lower premier team. England really need some guy in there with the bo**ocks to start picking players who are on form and play week in week out for any club in the top tier and to place them in the same position they play for their club. That means you don't get knob heads like Milner moving to City to sit on the bench for half a season and still get picked for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 THe best thing about that goal was the look of shock when Marsden realised he'd scored. I liked the Strachen celebration more. Mourinho eat your heart out. I have to say the goal looked better from the other side of the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 (edited) repeat that with loads of players, Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, all ****e for England whilst world class for their clubs. They dont care to play for England. Not being good enough or performing isn't always about a lack of passion for the shirt. Gerrard gives a ****, but when he's not scoring worldies right left and centre like he's given the opportunity to for Liverpool, then you start looking at the numer of times his hollywood balls go straight to the opposition or into touch. The same of Lampard. Reduce the ten chances to score from the edge of the box down to one and suddenly he looks a lot less clinical. Ask him to do what he does for Chelsea (finish off wonderful attacking moves) AND track runners (which he doesn't have to do at Chelsea) and then he starts to look a liability. Rooney cares, we just expect too much, especially when returning too soon from injury. He's not a two in a million Messi or Ronaldo, he's just a very very good footballer that tries too hard to drag average England players up a level or two. Edited 27 March, 2013 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 27 March, 2013 Share Posted 27 March, 2013 THe best thing about that goal was the look of shock when Marsden realised he'd scored. I love the second look up after he had shot. For a second he thought he'd missed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 Amazing goal. What number cap was it for that goal in Rio? As his career progressed Barnes was the most frustrating England player ever. He was absolutely amazing for Liverpool, unplayable at times, but stick him in an England shirt and he seemed to just bottle it, preferring to pass it square or backwards than try and beat his man. Put the Liverpool shirt back on and he'd beat five and smash it into the top corner. His Liverpool career and that goal are undeniable. But he dined out on both for far too long; playing injured against Germany in Italia 90 and going off injured after 20mins having done nothing was the final straw, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 Harsh considering Glen Johnson doesn't make the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naboo_thats_who Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 How is Carlton (18 caps) Palmer not on that list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 Harsh considering Glen Johnson doesn't make the list. Some may disagree with me on this one, but should Danny Mills (19 Caps!) also be on that list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 5 May, 2013 Share Posted 5 May, 2013 Just inteviewed by Beatts on Late Kick Off. Said the highlight of his career has been playing for Saints. Recently engaged to one of The Saturdays as she is pregnant, the sly pair of dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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