Barry Sanchez Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 finest and then push on and consistently dine at the top table of European football?
Saint Garrett Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Surely depends. Probably not for a long time, but maybe next season? If we sign Messi and Ronaldo, I reckon we could compete at the top next year.
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 Cool, I can wait, as long as I know its happening.
Joensuu Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Ragworms Barry, or are you using a fly? If genuine, I'd suggest, probably never. NB, there is a small probability of this occurring at all, but an absolutely tiny change of this happening 'consistently'. There would be much higher odds on us having a crack at breaking into the top 8, and perhaps even into the top 6 at some point in the next 5 years.
Colinjb Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Probably never. The interesting part will be how the chairman and our owners react when they realise this.
Lets B Avenue Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 finest and then push on and consistently dine at the top table of European football? Poor effort. Try harder on a Reading forum.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 When we start signing worse players than the ones we have been signing. If we want to make Europe, we absolutely should not sign players that have potential to be league winners.
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 Poor effort. Try harder on a Reading forum. Is there a reading forum? Or am I on one already? Strange chap...............
saintbob40 Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 This squad plus perhaps a back up holding mid and a commanding big CB who can play a bit......Europa league next year. Lets try and stay up first though......
Saint Garrett Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 When we start signing worse players than the ones we have been signing. If we want to make Europe, we absolutely should not sign players that have potential to be league winners. I much prefer us buying players who are used to relegation battle...
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 I much prefer us buying players who are used to relegation battle... So would I welcome to my World, why sign a player who is an unfit my little show pony when you need a man of grit and ********. He does look very pretty though with his devil may care hair do and his feminine flicks, just what we need......................
Olallana Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 I much prefer us buying players who are used to relegation battle... And when we are aiming for 12th spot we get rid of the whole team and buy players suited for that. And year after that when we aim for 10th we of course go out and buy a new team for that. And when we are aiming for 8th we.....yeah, you can probably guess this one....
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 And when we are aiming for 12th spot we get rid of the whole team and buy players suited for that. And year after that when we aim for 10th we of course go out and buy a new team for that. And when we are aiming for 8th we.....yeah, you can probably guess this one.... Do we basically buy the team that finished that position the year previously? Should we have bought QPR's first XI from last season? funnily enough, our friend Barry has suggested our transfer policy should be more like theirs. Perhaps this would have placated him?
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 And when we are aiming for 12th spot we get rid of the whole team and buy players suited for that. And year after that when we aim for 10th we of course go out and buy a new team for that. And when we are aiming for 8th we.....yeah, you can probably guess this one.... Yes buying a Merc when you have a garage of mostly Skoda's and Ford's really does not raise the profile of the garage................................
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 Do we basically buy the team that finished that position the year previously? Should we have bought QPR's first XI from last season? funnily enough, our friend Barry has suggested our transfer policy should be more like theirs. Perhaps this would have placated him? No I dont beleive I said that, we bought one Ferrari who had a spluttering engine (and still does) and put him in with Daniel Fox and Jos Hooiveld who are akin to a Nissan Micra and an old 1982 Rover..........................
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 No I dont beleive I said that, we bought one Ferrari who had a spluttering engine (and still does) and put him in with Daniel Fox and Jos Hooiveld who are akin to a Nissan Micra and an old 1982 Rover.......................... You have more than once said we should be more like QPR when it comes to transfers. At least they have been ballsy, I think it was.
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 You have more than once said we should be more like QPR when it comes to transfers. At least they have been ballsy, I think it was. Are you for real? I have said they have been ballsy yes indeed but since when has someone being brave means that system means it has to be replicated? General Custer was brave but also foolish and vain, I dont see many following his tactics do you? I despair.
Griffo Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 I'll take the occasional flirt with Europa League. Don't want us to be regulars in the Champions League. It'll change the club and fanbase completely. One season in europe every 5 or so seasons will do me.
Turkish Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 I'll take the occasional flirt with Europa League. Don't want us to be regulars in the Champions League. It'll change the club and fanbase completely. One season in europe every 5 or so seasons will do me. It couldn't get much worse.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Are you for real? I have said they have been ballsy yes indeed but since when has someone being brave means that system means it has to be replicated? General Custer was brave but also foolish and vain, I dont see many following his tactics do you? I despair. Oh Barry, this is such a crock it is untrue. I guarantee you have said we should have taken an approach more like theirs.
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 It couldn't get much worse. Our fans have got worse since we left the Dell in my humble, too many grandiose plans with no real foundation or actual knowledge of how it can be achieved, similar to a child in the gutter being told to reach for the stars.
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 Oh Barry, this is such a crock it is untrue. I guarantee you have said we should have taken an approach more like theirs. What about purchasing better players and enhancing our squad? No doubt I have, QPR have bought bad but that does not mean their plan was bad, you do see the difference, we bought bad as well in my opinion.
Griffo Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 It couldn't get much worse. We'd be like a huge version of Reading with champions league football.
Matthew Le God Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 (edited) I'll take the occasional flirt with Europa League. Don't want us to be regulars in the Champions League. It'll change the club and fanbase completely. One season in europe every 5 or so seasons will do me. We should all want Saints to do as well as possible. Not restrain our success because it would "change the club and fan-base completely". We had daft people saying they'd prefer not to be promoted and stay in the Championship, I find it bizarre people wishing Saints not to win games and succeeding. We'd be like a huge version of Reading with champions league football. So what? Yes, it would bring alot more "plastics", but I and every other Saints fan should want to see Saints do the best they possibly can. Edited 26 March, 2013 by Matthew Le God
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 We'd be like a huge version of Reading with champions league football. A great example of this my mum now goes and my dad who went for 30 odds years does not bother, if thats not proof enough that football's now crap then I dont know what is.
Turkish Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 We'd be like a huge version of Reading with champions league football. Can you imagine 6,000 Saints fans at the Nou Camp with loads dressed up in clown suits, road cone hats and other forms of fancy dress? Our embarassment would be world wide.
Griffo Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Can you imagine 6,000 Saints fans at the Nou Camp with loads dressed up in clown suits, road cone hats and other forms of fancy dress? Our embarassment would be world wide. That's why I'd rather our group was: Besiktas Partizan Belgrade Hadjuk Split
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 Can you imagine 6,000 Saints fans at the Nou Camp with loads dressed up in clown suits, road cone hats and other forms of fancy dress? Our embarassment would be world wide. I believe this is why revolutions have taken place over continents, not because of social change and political beliefs but moreso the revolutionary wants to kill the trafffic cone wearing, onesy licra, christmas tree scouse wig wearing bellends, I for one fully support another revolution.
tajjuk Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 What about purchasing better players and enhancing our squad? No doubt I have, QPR have bought bad but that does not mean their plan was bad, you do see the difference, we bought bad as well in my opinion. Their plan was terrible, in fact I doubt they had a particular plan hence why they bought a keeper and paid him £60k week and then bought another one a few weeks later. We bought better players than we had, that improved the team, are young and can improve and are on sneible wages. Our strategy is clearly way better than QPRs, you are as usual just talking nonsense. I'll take the occasional flirt with Europa League. Don't want us to be regulars in the Champions League. It'll change the club and fanbase completely. One season in europe every 5 or so seasons will do me. If it means we get rid of so called 'fans' like Barry and Turkish we will be a million times better off.
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 (edited) Their plan was terrible, in fact I doubt they had a particular plan hence why they bought a keeper and paid him £60k week and then bought another one a few weeks later. We bought better players than we had, that improved the team, are young and can improve and are on sneible wages. Our strategy is clearly way better than QPRs, you are as usual just talking nonsense. If it means we get rid of so called 'fans' like Barry and Turkish we will be a million times better off. I'm 38 (today as a matter of fact) and have been going to see Southampton for 30 odd years, I think that constitutes a fan dont you think? Commenting or dare I say it criticism is actually allowed, opinions should be valued, we have an abundance of clowns that now purport to support the club I have always loved, where the **** were these clowns years ago? Edited 26 March, 2013 by Barry Sanchez
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 I'm 38 (today as a matter of fact) and have been going to see Southampton for 30 odd years, I think that constitutes a fan dont you think? Commenting or dare I say it criticism is actually allowed, opinions should be valued, we have an abundance of clowns that know purport to support the club I have always loved, where the **** were these clowns years ago? Happy Birthday Bazza!
Turkish Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Their plan was terrible, in fact I doubt they had a particular plan hence why they bought a keeper and paid him £60k week and then bought another one a few weeks later. We bought better players than we had, that improved the team, are young and can improve and are on sneible wages. Our strategy is clearly way better than QPRs, you are as usual just talking nonsense. If it means we get rid of so called 'fans' like Barry and Turkish we will be a million times better off. "so called fan"? My first game was in 1985. apart from a 4 year period in the mid 00's and the same in the 90's when i was playing on saturdays (Still went when wasn't playing and to evening games) i've probably only missed on average 2-3 games a season since 1989 as well as going to between 7-10 away games on average a season. My dad is a season ticket holder, my brother and sister are season ticket holders i am a season ticket holder. You think the club would "a million times better off" without fans like me?
tajjuk Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 "so called fan"? My first game was in 1985. apart from a 4 year period in the mid 00's and the same in the 90's when i was playing on saturdays (Still went when wasn't playing and to evening games) i've probably only missed on average 2-3 games a season since 1989 as well as going to between 7-10 away games on average a season. My dad is a season ticket holder, my brother and sister are season ticket holders i am a season ticket holder. You think the club would "a million times better off" without fans like me? In a word, yes, but then there aren't many like you. The board certainly would be as well. I'm 38 (today as a matter of fact) and have been going to see Southampton for 30 odd years, I think that constitutes a fan dont you think? Commenting or dare I say it criticism is actually allowed, opinions should be valued, we have an abundance of clowns that now purport to support the club I have always loved, where the **** were these clowns years ago? Being a 'fan' isn't about statistics and there is a massive difference between fair criticism and what you post Barry.
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 In a word, yes, but then there aren't many like you. The board certainly would be as well. Being a 'fan' isn't about statistics and there is a massive difference between fair criticism and what you post Barry. And you are the judge of that for yourself or everyone? If you think a forum is actual/reality and you are some kind of moral priest I suggest you take of you Gandalf robe and return from middle Earth.......................
Turkish Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 In a word, yes, but then there aren't many like you. The board certainly would be as well. Being a 'fan' isn't about statistics and there is a massive difference between fair criticism and what you post Barry. Why would the club be better without fans like me?
Wes Tender Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Commenting or dare I say it criticism is actually allowed, opinions should be valued, we have an abundance of clowns that now purport to support the club I have always loved, where the **** were these clowns years ago? You were and are still supporting the club, allegedly, Barry Happy B'day, anyway, WUM.
david in sweden Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 finest and then push on and consistently dine at the top table of European football? Why are you asking us, Barry ? ....it was Nicola Cortese's vision from the beginning......Have you asked him? ( or..were you one of those people laughing at him in 2009) There aren't enough crystal balls on this site to give you any sort of a definitive answer, I'm afraid.
Turkish Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Why are you asking us, Barry ? ....it was Nicola Cortese's vision from the beginning......Have you asked him? ( or..were you one of those people laughing at him in 2009) There aren't enough crystal balls on this site to give you any sort of a definitive answer, I'm afraid. Lets just hope his vision doesn't include signing London born players. Literally 3 of them failed to settle in the 60's and 70's.
david in sweden Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Lets just hope his vision doesn't include signing London born players. Literally 3 of them failed to settle in the 60's and 70's. I think the closest that any of our new signings will get to London..... will be Heathrow / Gatwick when they fly in from Spain.
Wiggles31 Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 I think we have more realistic chance of pushing for a trophy over the next few years rather than Europe. That said its more exciting to be ambitious than to not be (eg. Wigan). Can't fault Cortese in the slightest for achieving his ambitions to date and not via the unsustainable QPR method.
Turkish Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 I think we have more realistic chance of pushing for a trophy over the next few years rather than Europe. That said its more exciting to be ambitious than to not be (eg. Wigan). Can't fault Cortese in the slightest for achieving his ambitions to date and not via the unsustainable QPR method. Yet despite Wigans supposed lack of ambition they are pushing for a trophy by being in the FA Cup semi final and a very good chance of making it to the final.
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 Yet despite Wigans supposed lack of ambition they are pushing for a trophy by being in the FA Cup semi final and a very good chance of making it to the final. :lol:
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Yet despite Wigans supposed lack of ambition they are pushing for a trophy by being in the FA Cup semi final and a very good chance of making it to the final. Does that make Bradford more ambitious also?
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 March, 2013 Author Posted 26 March, 2013 Does that make Bradford more ambitious also? That all depends on what Bradfords ambitions are surely?
Wes Tender Posted 26 March, 2013 Posted 26 March, 2013 Doing well in the Cup competitions doesn't equate to a club being ambitious for success in Europe. Parcipitation in Europe Cup competitions is merely a by-product. And the Cup competitions are also a bit of a lottery anyway. Wigan could win the FA Cup and suffer relegation too, so how does that lie with their ambitions?
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