ToreSF Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 Assuming we stay up and keep our current squad, how should our priorities in the transfer marked be this summer? For me: 1. Solid centre back 2. Versatile attacking midfielder 3. Back up right back 4. Back up left back 5. Striker prodigy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 1. We don't know how good Forren is yet 2. Maybe someone down the right, but another attacking mid would dislodge gaston, plus jay dubb is prooving versatile 3. Callum Chambers 4. this one is true but is someone better than fox really going to want to be understudy to a 17yo? 5. Jay Gonzalez Esteban Enrique Rodriguez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 1. Fast, and ideally solid centre back (pace please to help recover from counter attacks against our pressing game). 2. Clinical finisher. Doesn't need to be especially fast or big, just skillful, creative, and someone who puts away their chances. 3. Another wing option to keep Adam and Jason on their toes. 4. A better version of Fox. I.e. Someone willing to sit on the bench while a youngster has the game time, but who is better at defending than Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 1. 4. this one is true but is someone better than fox really going to want to be understudy to a 17yo? Matt Targett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 1. We don't know how good Forren is yet 2. Maybe someone down the right, but another attacking mid would dislodge gaston, plus jay dubb is prooving versatile 3. Callum Chambers 4. this one is true but is someone better than fox really going to want to be understudy to a 17yo? 5. Jay Gonzalez Esteban Enrique Rodriguez Summed it up pretty well. Jokes on 5 as well, I laughed at that video a lot! We have plenty of upcoming youth players who are great backup as well, I'm thinking Targett at LB and Turnbull, Stephens and others at CB, so no need for investment there IMO. I say get shot of Gaston and bring someone else in, but that's just me. Rodriguez will be key next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 (edited) NO MORE CB's!! We have about enough midfielders, maybe a 17 year old Cork/Morg coming through would be nice but not essential. - Retract this Mathew Le God reminded me of JWP who will eventually be doing this role anyway. LB/RB cover to help Shaw's development/keep us going of Clyne is out could be useful. Someone better than Punch on the right is the only real player we need to buy. That and sign up King Artur next season or replace. Edited 25 March, 2013 by pingwing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 25 March, 2013 Author Share Posted 25 March, 2013 1. We don't know how good Forren is yet 2. Maybe someone down the right, but another attacking mid would dislodge gaston, plus jay dubb is prooving versatile 3. Callum Chambers 4. this one is true but is someone better than fox really going to want to be understudy to a 17yo? 5. Jay Gonzalez Esteban Enrique Rodriguez 1. True, but would either way like to see Hooiveld replaced, and I think we should have 4 centre backs. 2. A versatile attacking midfielder should be able to play out wide and in the middle. We need more competition for those places, IMO. Hope to see Jay Rod more in the striker role next season. 3. If he is good enough, great! 4. I find it hard to imagine that there isn't anybody out there who is better than Fox and would be interested to compete for a place at a Premier league club. 5. Agree, and therefor it is not a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 If the aim is to push on next season then we will need to buy players to do this as the current squad is obviously only good enough for a relegation scrap. Some of the squad players will leave, so replacements will be brought, but the replacements will be for the first team rather than buying to be backup (apart from LB, but that i think will be an exception to the rule). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 Some of these posts are odd for me. If we stay up we have to invest in better than we have. While everyone will be betetr for a year in the Prem, that improvement wont be significant enough to necessarily keep us out of the dog-fight again. So the suggestion that we already have the players we need because are youngsters are good is a strange one. The fact that we were bidding for Coutinho shows the standard of players we want. He is better than Puncheon for example, who has been pretty much a regiular this season. So, if we can get someone better than Punch, someone better than Adam, someone better than Jay, that is going to really take us forward, considering all three have performed well at times this season. Oh, and the constant let Gaston chat go is mental. He clearly has bags of talent - one season getting used to the Prem, full pre-season under his belt with us, he could be a real star next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 (edited) maybe a 17 year old Cork/Morg coming through would be nice but not essential. We have an 18 year old - the England under 19 captain... Edited 25 March, 2013 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 For me a new pacey striker is needed that can play out wide as well as through the centre. Would love Zarate from Lazio, would fit in perfectly. Also would like a new CB, even if Forren is good I believe that more competition is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 For me a new pacey striker is needed that can play out wide as well as through the centre. Would love Zarate from Lazio, would fit in perfectly. Also would like a new CB, even if Forren is good I believe that more competition is needed. I would try and bring in a "no 1" CB and then get rid of Hooiveld. Perhaps Fonte too if we could find another CB better than him. Clearly central defence is our weakest position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 I would try and bring in a "no 1" CB and then get rid of Hooiveld. Perhaps Fonte too if we could find another CB better than him. Clearly central defence is our weakest position. Agreed. Maybe not Fonte though, I think he deserves another chance as he has been decent this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 get the goalie situation sorted ! Boruc needs to sign ....and do we really see Gazzaniga as his deputy?..... I know KD's on a three year deal but who's happy with him as a longer term stand-in ....in the event of .. If Fox is left out then ..who is Shaw's deputy at LB.. if ...(he goes / is injured?) Targett is promising, but that's not the same thing as being " another " Luke Shaw - is it ? Same goes for RB. Clyne is OK..as long as he's here, but what if ?.....Chambers maybe a good prospect, but not as a permanent solution. Only another CB ..IF... he has some pace. Fonte is skilful, but too slow. Yoshida is OK .most of the time, (but he's not a CH)...and Jos is the kamakazi-player who gets the injuries in the cause. Forran is still an unknown quantity, let's hope he's worth it (longer-term) ....for that money, anyway. I'd like to see another striker who gets a game, (as I don't see Billy Sharp returning), but Mayuka never gets off the bench, so....where will he play?....and what about Tadanari Lee ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermcpete Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 Getting Boruc to sign a new contract has to be the first priority, hopefully it is being worked on now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 get the goalie situation sorted ! Boruc needs to sign ....and do we really see Gazzaniga as his deputy?..... I know KD's on a three year deal but who's happy with him as a longer term stand-in ....in the event of .. If Fox is left out then ..who is Shaw's deputy at LB.. if ...(he goes / is injured?) Targett is promising, but that's not the same thing as being " another " Luke Shaw - is it ? Same goes for RB. Clyne is OK..as long as he's here, but what if ?.....Chambers maybe a good prospect, but not as a permanent solution. Only another CB ..IF... he has some pace. Fonte is skilful, but too slow. Yoshida is OK .most of the time, (but he's not a CH)...and Jos is the kamakazi-player who gets the injuries in the cause. Forran is still an unknown quantity, let's hope he's worth it (longer-term) ....for that money, anyway. I'd like to see another striker who gets a game, (as I don't see Billy Sharp returning), but Mayuka never gets off the bench, so....where will he play?....and what about Tadanari Lee ? You're almost becoming a parody of yourself there Dave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 The priority for me would be: 3 attacking players - one to play left, one right and one central. Main attributes should be Clinical finishing, technical ability and pace. I would budget for £8m to £20m each to try to get potentially better than we already have. I would also look for another CB who is technically gifted and fast and possibly a left and right back to take some of the pressure off Shaw and Clyne and to give us Premiership quality back up / competition. I think that Ward-Prowse and Davis are sufficient cover for central midfield and Morgan and Cork are as good as we need to progress although Cork maybe needs to contribute some goals as well. Possibly a new keeper if we don't keep Boruc - although I hope we do. I can see us spending about £45m in the summer to get the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 The senior players out on loan i imagine they will look to move them on, so Martin, Seabourne,Chaplow,Lee & Sharp. Squad players out, who will need to be replaced in some form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 We don't have any (credible) holding midfielders behind Cork and Morgan. I don't look at either JWP or Davis as acting in that role i.e the 2 in the 4-2-3-1, they are more likley to be used in the middle of the 3. You only need to look at the goals against and points for columns of the first 11 games to realise that is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 For me a new pacey striker is needed that can play out wide as well as through the centre. Would love Zarate from Lazio, would fit in perfectly. Also would like a new CB, even if Forren is good I believe that more competition is needed. Agree. I also think Adrian Lopez fits in that mould, maybe Lens. We definitely needs a new CB, preferably a first choice CB, like Astori. Hooiveld will need to be replaced and I think Fonte has perhaps only another year with us, maybe two. (not speaking of contract, it´s about ability to stay in the team on quality) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 Agree. I also think Adrian Lopez fits in that mould, maybe Lens. We definitely needs a new CB, preferably a first choice CB, like Astori. Hooiveld will need to be replaced and I think Fonte has perhaps only another year with us, maybe two. (not speaking of contract, it´s about ability to stay in the team on quality) Lopez more than Lens to me, but yes, exactly that type of player. A new Claudio Lopez perhaps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 We have an 18 year old - the England under 19 captain... Ah I guess he'll end up being able to play there but this season I have considered him the more being forward type of midfielder opposed to deep lying morg and cork area. I retract my request for a fake morg/cork and will wait for jwp to get better at tackling/reading the game and to bulk up a little more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 Lopez more than Lens to me, but yes, exactly that type of player. A new Claudio Lopez perhaps... Or Claudio Caniggia?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 Or Claudio Caniggia?? Must be Argentinean to apply here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 The fact that we were bidding for Coutinho shows the standard of players we want Not a fact at all. MP has denied making a bid. the current squad is obviously only good enough for a relegation scrap. Although the form table since December puts as at 10th Frankly we have a decent team but gradually need to push on to the next level so in that respect every position needs looking at. One or two at a time though else the youth will not get their chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 Pretty sure we need a new LB. Because then Shaw can be moved forward which pushes AL onto the right side. Simples And all the snippets I've seen suggest that Targett could be the player. Who knows But Boruc is the must sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 1, Sign up Boruc or get another quality keeper. 2, additional centre-back quality, preferable someone who's not that slow. 3, additonal wing quality with pace and trickery, Sinclair has been linked and is a good option or another version of Coutinho Those would be my priority first teamers. If we could find a back up defensive mid who could fill in at full bakc that would be a bonus or a fullback for both sides and a 'mulumbu' or 'diame' style mid with a bit of pace and power over cork or morgan. And be on the lookout for a possible 'x factor' player, so if a world class player becomes possibly available we go for it, so like Berbatov to Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 left midfielder would be high on my list, just behind a striker if Mayuka does not fit into our plans. Seeing as Richardson is no longer trusted to ever play at right back it looks like that is another position we might try and fill. Not sure I agree with that though. What position is Reeves going to play and is he going to make it in the Prem? Would it be cost effective to buy and pay ****tu (and bring Radhi out of retirement) to just play in the two Stoke games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 I am sure many of the opinions on this thread are based on sentiment - and it would be sad to see players that have been here a while and got us promoted be demoted to back ups - but the whether you judge us on recent form getting us to 10th in the table or whether you look at season length form putting us at 17th the table, the reality is that is significantly short of what I think NC's ambitions are and I dont think MP will show any sentiment when his brief is top 6 and he has seen how ruthless NC can be. However, sentimental you get about our defence, the stats show that we continue to leak poor goals and I think we will bring in two new centre backs to be 1st choice players and two full backs although these might be just to add competition to places as NC's also stated aim is to play academy players - that fact that punch doesnt seem to get much game time and the same with Davis would suggest that both those positions could be strengthened - I also think that across the season you would be looking at 3 first choice strikers of which we only have two at the moment. I expect to see significant movement this summer having experienced the reality of the prem and that MP will hold little sentiment to existing team players - and I think only if we make these changes will stand a chance of top 6 or even top 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 3. Callum Chambers Though Calum Chambers was a midfielder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 Though Calum Chambers was a midfielder? He has been playing right back recently for both Saints under 21's and England under 19's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 Some of these posts are odd for me. If we stay up we have to invest in better than we have. While everyone will be betetr for a year in the Prem, that improvement wont be significant enough to necessarily keep us out of the dog-fight again. So the suggestion that we already have the players we need because are youngsters are good is a strange one. The fact that we were bidding for Coutinho shows the standard of players we want. He is better than Puncheon for example, who has been pretty much a regiular this season. So, if we can get someone better than Punch, someone better than Adam, someone better than Jay, that is going to really take us forward, considering all three have performed well at times this season. Oh, and the constant let Gaston chat go is mental. He clearly has bags of talent - one season getting used to the Prem, full pre-season under his belt with us, he could be a real star next year. Agree with this , odd some here seem to think we have a squad that will suddenly finish top half next season ,they wont. Theres a reason we are were we are We need better in a lot of positions, esp CB, CM, and cover/competition for SRL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 Assuming we stay up and keep our current squad, how should our priorities in the transfer marked be this summer? For me: 1. Solid centre back 2. Versatile attacking midfielder 3. Back up right back 4. Back up left back 5. Striker prodigy I'd pretty much go along with that. If you're after some HCDAJFU: 1. Yevhen Khacheridi 2. Andriy Yarmolenko 3. Don't think Frazer is that bad personally. 4. Figueroa, if Wigan went down maybe. 5. Matej Vydra ticks all the boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sea Saint Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 two Premier quality centre backs and a decent winger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 You're almost becoming a parody of yourself there Dave... ..you mean I haven't said that before?. .....Nigel Adkins didn't listen to me either..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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