lordswoodsaints Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 (edited) now,if this had happened then i would be a little worried......obviously after i had picked myself off of the floor.:-) Edited 29 November, 2008 by lordswoodsaints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Once again Lowe proves what a snivelling little sh*t he really is. BTW did anyone read his statement released with the financial report? WHAT A WAN*KER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 I have a Photo taken at the Dell with Me , My son & Lawrie holding the FA cup in May 1976 . It is very special to my family as it represents the Greatest Footballing Achievment in Saints history and we are very proud of that achievment and grateful for what Lawrie Mac did for Saints. On the other hand the action taken at SMS of removing the reminder of Saints greatest Achievment just goes to prove what Bitter and selfish people are presently involved in the corridors of power at SMS. Step up Rupert Lowe , Mike Wilde and the rest of the egotistical board of SFC as you have just proved what most of us have known for a long time , You dont give a toss about Southampton Football club or its history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Perhaps Lowe has replaced Lawries picture with a picture of a gravy train? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 I'm almost speechless at the pettiness (for that's what it is) of the current board. Given Rupert's preference for shooting, shouldn't they have replaced the Lawrie Mac picture with this: A replica of Hilda Ogden's "murial" would indeed be a fitting epitah to the soap opera we have become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 it's a picture, one picture, of Lawrie -who by all accounts shares mutual hatred with current board members. And its still being discussed as surprising news that they don't want his picture looking at them every day! Has he been disrespected? Are there other pictures of him up? Is there other cup final memorabilia up? Both sides will snipe at each other, hardly news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Getting rid of Lawrie's picture from the boardroom didn't really surprise me. I went on a tour around StM's about 3 years ago and although there were photo's of other significant Saints heroes, Lawrie was conspicous by his absence - not just from the boardroom. It was the first time I was aware of the deep dislike of each other that Rupes & Lawrie have. As there were only two of us on the tour and both lifelong fans, we had quite a good insight into the club history & politics already but this struck us as amazingly petty. Whatever people say about Lawrie, in my eyes he ranks second only to Ted Bates as Saints greatest ever manager, and certainly the most successful, so to ignore him in that way is to try to wipe out a large chapter in Saints history. Oh... and I wouldn't describe myself as anti Lowe, just a neutral who will be pleased when he moves on because he is so divisive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 I agree, he should not be forgotten, and if anything the club should make a more public tribute to him - but to worry about whether the directors (who he hates anyway!) want his picture in their office (of sorts) is yet more backroom obsession IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 I agree, he should not be forgotten, and if anything the club should make a more public tribute to him - but to worry about whether the directors (who he hates anyway!) want his picture in their office (of sorts) is yet more backroom obsession IMHO Its not their office it's the boardroom of Southampton Football Club. The whole act, taking it down and offering it for Lawries box is a completly calculated insult. Its says so much about Lowe and is a little reminder why thousands what him out of this club forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Its not their office it's the boardroom of Southampton Football Club. The whole act, taking it down and offering it for Lawries box is a completly calculated insult. Its says so much about Lowe and is a little reminder why thousands what him out of this club forever. And Lawrie wouldn't have done the same?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 We'll end up Like Crewe a young youth project supplying bigger teams with lots of TRAINS around the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 boardroom - room for directors to meet - not public gallery, museum, etc. Is there reminders in public areas for 76? That would concern me, decoration -or as someone else said wallpaper in boardroom -couldn't care less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Lowey is going to pay for a statue, next to or near Sir Ted, of Lawrie Mac, out of his own pocket. He is that sort of Guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 see, knew this was over-reaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 And Lawrie wouldn't have done the same?? I'm not aware of Lawrie doing anything similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Lawrie has large portrait of Lowe on his office wall and is not intending to remove it -FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Lawrie has large portrait of Lowe on his office wall and is not intending to remove it -FACT Others would call it a dart board with Loweys picture thereon.....That would be 180eeeeeeee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 thought he had a lot of acne scars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 see, knew this was over-reaction Not really an over reaction. No one is phoning the police, cutting their wrists or planning to bomb St Marys, a few people have expressed their dislike of it on a internet board, no over reaction, no big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 you say that, have you had local news on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 now,if this had happened then i would be a little worried......obviously after i had picked myself off of the floor. Shameful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 you say that, have you had local news on? No I'm in Kent, what are they saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 No I'm in Kent, what are they saying. sorry mate, maybe in bad taste but just teasing about not storming St Marys- its not happening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Think its a real shame what ever the present board think of saints and Lawrie he achieved more than anybody else EVER did for SFC, just shows what a narrow minded load of to...ers we have now at the helm. It makes me a bit sad to be honest If ever the board are trytng to build bridges the are going the right way for sure!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Think its a real shame what ever the present board think of saints and Lawrie he achieved more than anybody else EVER did for SFC, just shows what a narrow minded load of to...ers we have now at the helm. It makes me a bit sad to be honest If ever the board are trytng to build bridges the are going the right way for sure!!! Just sums Lowey and Wildey up and their love of themselves and their utter contempt of Saints,The History of The club and The real Saints fans.. The sooner they walk the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 boardroom - room for directors to meet - not public gallery, museum, etc. Is there reminders in public areas for 76? That would concern me, decoration -or as someone else said wallpaper in boardroom -couldn't care less There's plenty of reminders of '76 in and around the public areas. We even have a 6" replica trophy in our trophy cabinet. (size dictated by the FA and dwarfed by a statue given to us by Leeds United on their first trip to SMS). What I'm saying is LM hates RL, RL hates LM. LM prob wouldn't have a picture of RL laying the foundation of SMS in the boardroom were he there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 There's plenty of reminders of '76 in and around the public areas. We even have a 6" replica trophy in our trophy cabinet. (size dictated by the FA and dwarfed by a statue given to us by Leeds United on their first trip to SMS). What I'm saying is LM hates RL, RL hates LM. LM prob wouldn't have a picture of RL laying the foundation of SMS in the boardroom were he there! Quite frankly, if there was a picture of Lowe, Askham, Woodford or Reader up on the walls for a valid reason (as you say maybe Lowe & others at a stadium opening ceremony) and an incoming board/Chairman took it down, then I would view it in exactly the same light (i.e. petty, cringeworthy and egotistical). The very fact that it is being replaced with a painting of such significance as commemorating our first visit to Doncaster's new ground (FFS) sort of hints that it was more to do with removing it, than having to find a wall for such a spectacular gift from Donny. It just gives us supporters an insight into the petty politics and make up of those temporarily in charge of our Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Quite frankly, if there was a picture of Lowe, Askham, Woodford or Reader up on the walls for a valid reason (as you say maybe Lowe & others at a stadium opening ceremony) and an incoming board/Chairman took it down, then I would view it in exactly the same light (i.e. petty, cringeworthy and egotistical). The very fact that it is being replaced with a painting of such significance as commemorating our first visit to Doncaster's new ground (FFS) sort of hints that it was more to do with removing it, than having to find a wall for such a spectacular gift from Donny. It just gives us supporters an insight into the petty politics and make up of those temporarily in charge of our Club. Totally agree. When Big Bad Bob asked whether Lawrie wouldn't have done the same, one has to think what Lowe has done as an historic achievement that would measure up to the heights that Lawrie achieved with us. But I can quite see on the other hand why a group picture Lowe, Askham and all those other charlatans ought to be hung on the boardroom wall after we have rid the club of them, to serve as a reminder of our darkest hour and that we should never allow their like to get their grip on us ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundance Beast Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 What next? The statue of Ted Bates will be handed back to his family because Crouch paid for it and replaced by a statue of a Klingon. I don't agree with your Klingon idea but the rest of your suggestion is sound. We can't re-experience the past and we can't guarantee to experience the future we can only experience and influence the present and a statue of Ted Bates and a dodgy picture of a second rate manager, considering LM's place in the greatest/successful managers list of all time, (501st probably) is not going to do a great deal to influence the here and now. Lets face it they were both recent additions and if anything we could blame them for our decline. Afterall a new scapegoat would be good especially as they are even more inanminate than Crouch on the receiving end of a hug from Pearson, or Trant at a press conference. Unbeaten in 3, 5 points form 9, who cares, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 I don't agree with your Klingon idea but the rest of your suggestion is sound. We can't re-experience the past and we can't guarantee to experience the future we can only experience and influence the present and a statue of Ted Bates and a dodgy picture of a second rate manager, considering LM's place in the greatest/successful managers list of all time, (501st probably) is not going to do a great deal to influence the here and now. Lets face it they were both recent additions and if anything we could blame them for our decline. Afterall a new scapegoat would be good especially as they are even more inanminate than Crouch on the receiving end of a hug from Pearson, or Trant at a press conference. Unbeaten in 3, 5 points form 9, who cares, eh? You really don't get this football supporting lark do you Sundance? A true supporter of Southampton football Club just would not come out with this guff about Lawrie. Quite clearly you were not a supporter of Southampton between the mid seventies and mid eighties - which is surprising as you not so young that you were not around during that time. Here's an idea Sundance. Why don't you stop supporting one man (Lowe) and instead support a football team (Southampton)? It might change your outlook on life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Think its a real shame what ever the present board think of saints and Lawrie he achieved more than anybody else EVER did for SFC, just shows what a narrow minded load of to...ers we have now at the helm. It makes me a bit sad to be honest If ever the board are trytng to build bridges the are going the right way for sure!!! and he rewarded himself handsomely for his troubles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Rupert wonders why some fans never accept him. It's stupid childish gestures like that Rupee boy.:smt076 Not long beforeyour photo to be removed from Ruperts bedside cabinet MICHEAL:p:smt073 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 and he rewarded himself handsomely for his troubles. He also did a Hoddle by leaving us in the lurch and going off to Sunderland. He obviously did well for us but that was twenty five years or so ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Just about sums Lowe up, doesnt it ? Some good comments on the Echo article, like the one about swapping a picture of our finest hour for one of our darkest hour. Also the one about Lowe and the Ted Bates Statue - wonder how long Lowe takes to find an excuse to "move it" ? I reckon it will be something to do with Health & Safety.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Storm in a tea cup. A boardroom isn't for arsing around in, looking at the pictures and decor - it's about making tough decisions and if it makes RL and the rest of the board happier not having LM's picture, so be it. Didn't take long for LM to dredge something up for the fans to get "outraged" about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Its not their office it's the boardroom of Southampton Football Club. The whole act, taking it down and offering it for Lawries box is a completly calculated insult. Its says so much about Lowe and is a little reminder why thousands what him out of this club forever. Definitely a calculated insult. Lawries now going to require a picture of the picture to understand what is going on. And denying all those people in the boardroom the glimpse of Lawrie, very selfish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Robbie, I amended your post and kept the interesting bits... Thanks the lords that you only have 3 posts a day Thanks Rupert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 lol the over reaction here is funny as **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Definitely a calculated insult. Lawries now going to require a picture of the picture to understand what is going on. And denying all those people in the boardroom the glimpse of Lawrie, very selfish. Perhaps it was Mr Wilde's Decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 Storm in a tea cup. A boardroom isn't for arsing around in, looking at the pictures and decor - it's about making tough decisions and if it makes RL and the rest of the board happier not having LM's picture, so be it.. But the boardroom is more than the place where tough decisions are made. It's also the place where guests are entertained, where opposing teams officials are wined & dined as well as being used for a number of other uses (including press conferences etc). It's normal to have your heritage and history on display in these types of areas. Also on the wall of our boardroom is a shirt from the 1976 Cup Final (think it is Channon's) and I'm sure there's a Matt Le Tissier tribute in there as well. Our solitary FA Cup win is the single biggest thing connected to this Club, so if there was a toss up between a present from Donny, or a photo of our most successful manager holding our only trophy, then I don't think it's that difficult a choice (even for those who hate McMenemy). The last time I had a peep, there were small photos of the Directors (e.g. Corbett, Hone & co) so it would seem natural to change those and even have Lowe and Wilde back up, but this change of pictures just smacks of pettiness, ego and posturing. Didn't take long for LM to dredge something up for the fans to get "outraged" about . I did wonder about Lawrie's ego being in play here and why he had to go public, but that still doesn't excuse the petty act undertalen by Lowe & co. Strange how you can find Lawrie's actions as being vindictive, yet you gloss over the petty action of removing it in the first place (then again it's par for the course with you isn't it:smt069:smt069). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 and he rewarded himself handsomely for his troubles. You keep coming out with these little snippets about Lawrie, why don’t you just come out a say what you think. Is it obligatory as a Lowe luvvie to hate LM, you lot are such a stereotype. Any financial reward LM got he deserved for what he achieved at this club. Its funny how you are outraged by LM financial rewards but would defend Lowe’s for what he has achieved at the club. What a bunch of sycophantic muppets your little group is for holding an average Chairman in higher regard than one of the clubs finest managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 (edited) He also did a Hoddle by leaving us in the lurch and going off to Sunderland. He obviously did well for us but that was twenty five years or so ago And another one. When do stop celebrating our past achievments, 20 years, 15, 10, when. Successful manager leaves club for new challange. What a shocker, grow up for f*ck's sake and stop making yourself look like a d#ck. Edited 30 November, 2008 by Fan The Flames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 What a bunch of sycophantic muppets your little group is for holding an average Chairman in higher regard than one of the clubs finest managers. bit ironic seeing as 91 posts are about a fecking picture.... what next? discuss the standard of egg sarnies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 lol the over reaction here is funny as **** As I said earlier where's the over reaction, a few people on here monaing about it and more defending it. Your life must be very dull if you class a little ripple on one thread as an over reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 bit ironic seeing as 91 posts are about a fecking picture.... what next? discuss the standard of egg sarnies? And as I said in my first post on this subject in the grand scheme of things it is pretty irrelevant, but at the same time don't you think that given such a picture is/should be fairly irrelevant, that removing it sort of shows how those currently in charge of our Club think about some things?? It just didn't need to be done and it was always going to be seen by some in a negative light. Why open yourselves up to such criticism? Why not just leave it be? People may be critical of the response, but this could so easily have been avoided if it was left where it was, if Lawrie had kept quiet or if it was removed a year or so down the line (for a picture worthy of replacing it). Instead we score an own goal again and just open ourselves up for criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 I dont think it is trivial or irrelevant, because this new example of Lowe's behaviour truly shows that the twaat thinks he is bigger than the club, that he doesnt give a flying fooook about the club or its history, and will never understand the fanbase for as long as he has a hole in his arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 And as I said in my first post on this subject in the grand scheme of things it is pretty irrelevant, but at the same time don't you think that given such a picture is/should be fairly irrelevant, that removing it sort of shows how those currently in charge of our Club think about some things?? It just didn't need to be done and it was always going to be seen by some in a negative light. Why open yourselves up to such criticism? Why not just leave it be? People may be critical of the response, but this could so easily have been avoided if it was left where it was, if Lawrie had kept quiet or if it was removed a year or so down the line (for a picture worthy of replacing it). Instead we score an own goal again and just open ourselves up for criticism. i see where you are coming from.. but i dont think in all my life have i ever seen/heard of a picture cause such a fuss...it is a picture ffs..im sure there are many more at SMS that gloryfy what happened 30-odd years ago.. im more concerned that we cant win a home game to save our lives...who cares what they do with the decor in the board room..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 i see where you are coming from.. but i dont think in all my life have i ever seen/heard of a picture cause such a fuss...it is a picture ffs..im sure there are many more at SMS that gloryfy what happened 30-odd years ago.. im more concerned that we cant win a home game to save our lives...who cares what they do with the decor in the board room..? So am I but scoring goals at St Mary's has been a problem for sometime including the play off game v Derby Lawrie was in the past we must now look to the future and hope there is a pointless argument in years to come on the removal of a portait of JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 but i dont think in all my life have i ever seen/heard of a picture cause such a fuss...it is a picture ffs..im sure there are many more at SMS that gloryfy what happened 30-odd years ago.. Didn't the Labour MP (can't think of his name Denis ....) draw a hitler moustache on a Downing Street painting of Thatcher once, with Paul Merton claiming its the first time she's been touched up for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 30 November, 2008 Share Posted 30 November, 2008 So am I but scoring goals at St Mary's has been a problem for sometime including the play off game v Derby This year we have scored 7 in 10 = 0.7 goals per game last year 26 from 23 =1.13 goals per game In that 'Derby' season it was 36 from 23 = 1.57 goals per game, which is double what we're currently achieving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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